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The H&R Springs should be here Tomorrow,along with a set of MC front struts and figured let me kill two birds with one stone while in the process.lol.  Z

The Motorcraft front Struts can be found below for my 13 PP-SHO.  Z  :)

MOTORCRAFT AST12321 {#AST12256, DG1Z18124U} Front Left; w/ Black Calipers; w/o Painted Calipers
   
$54.79  
MOTORCRAFT AST12323 {#AST12257, DG1Z18124W} Front Right; w/ Black Calipers; w/o Painted Calipers
$54.79

Grand Total $113.09 which includes shipping for the Struts.

http://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/ford,2013,taurus,3.5l+v6+turbocharged,1503823,suspension,strut,7584 (http://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/ford,2013,taurus,3.5l+v6+turbocharged,1503823,suspension,strut,7584)

13+NON-PP SHO Front Struts Part numbers can be found below.

MOTORCRAFT AST12329 {#AST12250, DG1Z18124E, DG1Z18124Y}
Front Left; w/ Painted Calipers
$52.99

MOTORCRAFT AST12328 {#AST12251, DG1Z18124F, DG1Z18124X}
Front Right; w/ Painted Calipers
$54.89

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I figured let me order the rear shocks also and do them in one shot.  Z  :)

REAR SHOCKS PART NUMBERS BELOW


13+PP SHO  X2 same part number DG1Z18125F
http://www.rockauto.com (http://www.rockauto.com) has the best price of $135.89 with promo-code applied and shipping included.

13+NON-PP X2 same part number.  DG1Z18125C
$133.89


http://www.rockauto.com (http://www.rockauto.com) $65.79

https://parts.levittownfordparts.com- (//https://)$76.16   

http://www.fordparts.com- (//http://)  $120.42

http://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/ford,2013,taurus,3.5l+v6+turbocharged,1503823,suspension,shock+absorber,7556 (http://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/ford,2013,taurus,3.5l+v6+turbocharged,1503823,suspension,shock+absorber,7556)

Here are the front Motorcraft PP-SHO Struts. Z

(https://i.imgur.com/w3okTFNh.jpg?1)(https://i.imgur.com/7CSaT5Sh.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/7eNxwXIh.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/SQoZwQoh.jpg?4)(https://i.imgur.com/uGkWVURh.jpg)

How many miles are on your SHO and what made you want to change struts/shocks?

Btw, are they oem or aftermarket?

Quote from: Joeyfuzz911 on September 15, 2017, 12:41:08 PM
How many miles are on your SHO and what made you want to change struts/shocks?

Btw, are they oem or aftermarket?

Its my DD so currently @ 57K. I noticed on my last run i was getting to much wheel spin with my nose up in the air upon launching hard. Z

Here are some before and after pics of my H&R Springs install along with a new set of front Struts,shocks and also needed were a set of Strut mount brackets for a peace of mind and last but not least the much needed Specialty camber bolts 81280 in order to align the rear to oem specs.  Z  :)

Please forgive my car being so dirty just been busy with back to school and all.
If you have any questions feel feel free to ask.  Z :)

                                              Before Install
(https://i.imgur.com/UdqnW2qh.jpg?1)(https://i.imgur.com/kdgWDbdh.jpg?1)

                                              After Install
(https://i.imgur.com/KxgWmV1h.jpg?1)(https://i.imgur.com/qm11G6Ah.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/Vd54JD0h.jpg)
                                          Alignment Specs

(https://i.imgur.com/91bNTxTh.jpg?1)

                                        Strut mounts(upper)

             (https://i.imgur.com/OXT2mb4h.jpg)


MOTORCRAFT AD1147  Alternate/OEM Part Number(s): AD1083, AD1097, AD1134, DG1Z18183B

http://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/ford,2013,taurus,3.5l+v6+turbocharged,1503823,suspension,strut+mount,7600 (http://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/ford,2013,taurus,3.5l+v6+turbocharged,1503823,suspension,strut+mount,7600)

Looks very nice Z. How do you like the H&R?

Sexy!!!!!!!!!!! Looking good Z!! Did the end up using the camber bolts?


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Quote from: CroR1 on September 15, 2017, 04:54:54 PM
Looks very nice Z. How do you like the H&R?

Meh! I guess i may need to break/settle in for a while!! Thanks for the kind words.  Z

Quote from: StealBlueSho on September 15, 2017, 05:08:37 PM

Sexy!!!!!!!!!!! Looking good Z!! Did the end up using the camber bolts?


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Thanks man!!I know many have gone without them but in my case the rear camber bolts were definitely warranted.  Z

Vroom Vroom Vroom.  die potholes die.  perhaps the diff is not as noticeable on a PP equipped SHO?

The h&r isone of the best mods. I like how the car turns in, especially given the fact that SHO is a big car. You will get to like them. When you go in a lower quality car with big body roll, makes you appreciate those stiff spring even more.

Since everything is new might just need to wait until everything settle's and adjust's accordingly,thanks. Z
BTW might need to measure the wheel gap!!!! :D
http://youtu.be/SNd-C8BrRyc (http://youtu.be/SNd-C8BrRyc)

I'd like to show Tara a before and after. Lol

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Quote from: bpd1151 on September 15, 2017, 08:19:51 PM
I'd like to show Tara a before and after. Lol

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I'll SHO her my personal Best. Lol. Z

(Quick Update) and CroR1 is Spot on!!!  Here are my initial impressions!!
I noticed overall better steering response and body roll(handling) coming from a Big-Naughty-4400 lb-Girl.
I guess it all depends on the road conditions but noticed the ride is much harsher even with the new Springs,Struts,shock,combination installed and probably something I need to get accustomed too. Z  :drive:

Quote from: ZSHO on September 16, 2017, 01:33:09 PM
(Quick Update)  coming from a Big-Naughty-4400 lb-Girl.

Good thing this big girls still has a gap. Not many do when they get large and lower. LOLOL

Here are a couple of closeup pics of the Front for comparison. Z  :)     
                                            Before
(https://i.imgur.com/ndVSWuph.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/DXlgxlwh.jpg)

                                              After
(https://i.imgur.com/D0WWHcgh.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/zrUqF5Rh.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/EMQxRJ0h.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/vltcQQUh.jpg)

Yeah that looks perfect. I am not gonna do Coil overs on her so Springs it is after the AJP tune.

Here's another quick update after a couple hundred miles!!!

1)Took out the family and the wife noticed the car bouncing immediately and had no clue the springs were changed.

2)Wife opens the passenger door and scrapes the door on the curb.

3)During a highway cruise the wife says she feels like vomiting.

4)Son later states that he feels nauseous.

5)First time in four years i bottom out when driving alone.

Here are my final thoughts!!!. Its my DD So if you live in a tough terrain area,roads a second car is a must,thanks.  Z

Uh Oh.

Quote from: SHOdded on September 21, 2017, 09:51:51 PM
Uh Oh.

Yup! but its fine by me.  Z  :)

I see your strategy now ... LOL!

Quote from: SHOdded on September 22, 2017, 07:42:36 AM
I see your strategy now ... LOL!

MANU you know me good. Lol.
Don't you love when a plan comes together .Z  :)

Quote from: ZSHO on September 07, 2017, 09:30:13 AM
The H&R Springs should be here Tomorrow,along with a set of MC front struts and figured let me kill two birds with one stone while in the process.lol.  Z

The Motorcraft front Struts can be found below for my 13 PP-SHO.  Z  :)

MOTORCRAFT AST12321 {#AST12256, DG1Z18124U} Front Left; w/ Black Calipers; w/o Painted Calipers
   
$54.79  
MOTORCRAFT AST12323 {#AST12257, DG1Z18124W} Front Right; w/ Black Calipers; w/o Painted Calipers
$54.79

Grand Total $113.09 which includes shipping for the Struts.

http://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/ford,2013,taurus,3.5l+v6+turbocharged,1503823,suspension,strut,7584 (http://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/ford,2013,taurus,3.5l+v6+turbocharged,1503823,suspension,strut,7584)

13+NON-PP SHO Front Struts Part numbers can be found below.

MOTORCRAFT AST12329 {#AST12250, DG1Z18124E, DG1Z18124Y}
Front Left; w/ Painted Calipers
$52.99

MOTORCRAFT AST12328 {#AST12251, DG1Z18124F, DG1Z18124X}
Front Right; w/ Painted Calipers
$54.89

Z, not to be a *ick, but I think you have the PP and non-PP parts reversed.  I looked up the parts for my 2015 PP on Tasca's site, and it shows the DG1Z-18124-X and -Y for "W/SHO PKG 1," and -U and -W for "W/O SHO PKG 1."  If you installed the non-PP struts, that might explain the nauseating ride.

Also, using the non-PP struts may cause them to fail prematurely.  The Tire Rack reviews of the H&R springs include a guy who installed KYB GR-2 shocks & struts on his BMW, and they couldn't handle the rate of the springs.

Quote from: hawkeye93 on September 22, 2017, 09:12:34 AM

Quote from: ZSHO on September 07, 2017, 09:30:13 AM
The H&R Springs should be here Tomorrow,along with a set of MC front struts and figured let me kill two birds with one stone while in the process.lol.  Z

The Motorcraft front Struts can be found below for my 13 PP-SHO.  Z  :)

MOTORCRAFT AST12321 {#AST12256, DG1Z18124U} Front Left; w/ Black Calipers; w/o Painted Calipers
   
$54.79  
MOTORCRAFT AST12323 {#AST12257, DG1Z18124W} Front Right; w/ Black Calipers; w/o Painted Calipers
$54.79

Grand Total $113.09 which includes shipping for the Struts.

http://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/ford,2013,taurus,3.5l+v6+turbocharged,1503823,suspension,strut,7584 (http://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/ford,2013,taurus,3.5l+v6+turbocharged,1503823,suspension,strut,7584)

13+NON-PP SHO Front Struts Part numbers can be found below.

MOTORCRAFT AST12329 {#AST12250, DG1Z18124E, DG1Z18124Y}
Front Left; w/ Painted Calipers
$52.99

MOTORCRAFT AST12328 {#AST12251, DG1Z18124F, DG1Z18124X}
Front Right; w/ Painted Calipers
$54.89

Z, not to be a *ick, but I think you have the PP and non-PP parts reversed.  I looked up the parts for my 2015 PP on Tasca's site, and it shows the DG1Z-18124-X and -Y for "W/SHO PKG 1," and -U and -W for "W/O SHO PKG 1."  If you installed the non-PP struts, that might explain the nauseating ride.

Also, using the non-PP struts may cause them to fail prematurely.  The Tire Rack reviews of the H&R springs include a guy who installed KYB GR-2 shocks & struts on his BMW, and they couldn't handle the rate of the springs.

I verified and confirmed it with my Ford dealer and www.fordparts.com (http://www.fordparts.com) which is based on your actual vin number. Z

PP -Struts- MOTORCRAFT AST12321   DG1Z18124U
PP-Struts-  MOTORCRAFT AST12323    DG1Z18124W

Rear Shocks PP-SHO. 18125(ASH-23482) DG1Z-18125-F

http://www.fordparts.com/Commerce/CatalogResults.aspx?v=1fahp2kt5dg183206&cat=Suspension&catId=40792865&scat=Shocks+and+Struts&scatId=40845281#Search (http://www.fordparts.com/Commerce/CatalogResults.aspx?v=1fahp2kt5dg183206&cat=Suspension&catId=40792865&scat=Shocks+and+Struts&scatId=40845281#Search)

But the VIN doesn't include option info, like PP.  Also, it would seem to make sense that the PP parts would have "later" part numbers.  I think you have the correct rear shocks, but the wrong front struts.

Don't take my word for it:

https://www.tascaparts.com/oem-parts/ford-strut-dg1z18124u/ (https://www.tascaparts.com/oem-parts/ford-strut-dg1z18124u/)

https://www.tascaparts.com/oem-parts/ford-strut-dg1z18124x/ (https://www.tascaparts.com/oem-parts/ford-strut-dg1z18124x/)

Quote from: hawkeye93 on September 22, 2017, 10:17:14 AM
But the VIN doesn't include option info, like PP.  Also, it would seem to make sense that the PP parts would have "later" part numbers.  I think you have the correct rear shocks, but the wrong front struts.

Don't take my word for it:

https://www.tascaparts.com/oem-parts/ford-strut-dg1z18124u/ (https://www.tascaparts.com/oem-parts/ford-strut-dg1z18124u/)

https://www.tascaparts.com/oem-parts/ford-strut-dg1z18124x/ (https://www.tascaparts.com/oem-parts/ford-strut-dg1z18124x/)

I appreciate your input Hawkeye!!!! but here are the actual PP-SHO Part numbers. Z

PP -Struts-  MOTORCRAFT AST12321   DG1Z18124U
PP- Struts-  MOTORCRAFT AST12323    DG1Z18124W


(https://i.imgur.com/w3okTFNh.jpg?1)

Do you still have the ones you replaced?  What part numbers do they have?

Quote from: hawkeye93 on September 22, 2017, 10:32:04 AM
Do you still have the ones you replaced?  What part numbers do they have?

There are unfortunately revised part numbers.(supersession).
I also changed the Strut mounts for a peace of mind.
It sounds like you want to change yours too! maybe,perhaps.Lol.  Z

I have considered it, yes.  But not if it's going to be a bouncy ride like you described.  I'm not trying to start a flame war.  I researched the parts on Tasca, and noticed they differed from yours, that's all.

It'll be a while before I install springs.  I have to make sure my new $900 tires go unnoticed first.  The wife is always watching...

Quote from: hawkeye93 on September 22, 2017, 10:43:34 AM
I have considered it, yes.  But not if it's going to be a bouncy ride like you described.  I'm not trying to start a flame war.  I researched the parts on Tasca, and noticed they differed from yours, that's all.

No flame war here its all Good!!  :)  I appreciate the concern and input as stated ^^ but it is what it is!!
Its just the fact of the matter that the rural roads here in N.Y Suck plain & simple .Z

The part numbers game is a horrific one.  Especially with the SHO, the way they refer to stuff.  With painted calipers, without painted calipers, yeah real user friendly.

Quote from: ZSHO on September 21, 2017, 09:32:36 PM
Here's another quick update after a couple hundred miles!!!

1)Took out the family and the wife noticed the car bouncing immediately and had no clue the springs were changed.

2)Wife opens the passenger door and scrapes the door on the curb.

3)During a highway cruise the wife says she feels like vomiting.

4)Son later states that he feels nauseous.

5)First time in four years i bottom out when driving alone.

Here are my final thoughts!!!. Its my DD So if you live in a tough terrain area,roads a second car is a must,thanks.  Z

Not what I wanted to here. I have been thinking about springs since I got the car and the GF has been against it, she already has to take Dramamine on long trips as it is. Do you happen to be on Long Island, and willing to take me for a short ride?

@-LostnEye is yours also a PP?  I'm actually pretty far from LI. Z

Quote from: ZSHO on September 22, 2017, 04:27:02 PM
@-LostnEye is yours also a PP?  I'm actually pretty far from LI. Z

Yes, PP

I take mine out frequently on weekends for 170 miles round trip, to and back from Chicago, and I love how it rides on highway. smooth road. It is somewhat hard on the bumpy roads, but I love the firm feeling of taking a corner on the street. Worth every penny. The way that car looks is so much better then with oem springs.

Quote from: CroR1 on September 22, 2017, 11:04:27 PM
I take mine out frequently on weekends for 170 miles round trip, to and back from Chicago, and I love how it rides on highway. smooth road. It is somewhat hard on the bumpy roads, but I love the firm feeling of taking a corner on the street. Worth every penny. The way that car looks is so much better then with oem springs.

B. was curious to know which wheel setup R U Running with ? Pics? TIA.
I'm just trying to keep the ecoboost community informed and up to speed. Z 

Never had this "bouncy" feeling with mine, and my H&R's were installed mind you on Non-PP struts/shocks. Never bottomed out either.

I also live in the Chicago area, and the roads are damn near as bad, if not worse in some areas, than MI.

I had the same TSW Nurburgring's back then, as I do now with the Megan's.

Quite honestly Z, as far as the door bashing on the curb, that's entirely on you for not having piped up sooner and cautioning any occupants therein (Wife, or otherwise) to be careful whilst opening the doors/exiting car.

Can't blame that on the mod. Just say'n.

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Here are some clean pics after a weeks time. Z

(https://i.imgur.com/7Npm3MYh.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/Vd54JD0h.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/jqxKgzMh.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/zrUqF5Rh.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/xVAKwsTh.jpg?1)

Good God the shine on that red is INSANE.

Very clean, and looks fantastic lowered.

Hope you report better experiences with them, as they continue to break in.

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Quote from: bpd1151 on September 23, 2017, 04:11:13 PM
Good God the shine on that red is INSANE.

Very clean, and looks fantastic lowered.

Hope you report better experiences with them, as they continue to break in.

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bpd1151 Thank you kind sir!  I always like to stay on TOP of things from A to Z.   
I think it needs time to break in as stated on page one. Z

Very sharp and clean indeed. I never had this bouncy feeling either, nor did i ever bottom out. Mine is a PP.

I am running Milani wheels, 20x9.5 with 38mm offset, 275/40/20 all 4 Conti DW tires. No rubbing or any other issues, I love these wheels. I get many compliments on this setup. Although, I am thinking of trading the car in, and I want to sell these wheels/tires, as I have other set that I use for winter. planning to move to big city, and can't justify keeping the SHO while spending close to 80K on another car. Kind of want to keep the car, but we'll see. Will probably make a thread later for the wheels, but if anyone is interested, let me know.

@ CroR1 It seems your post is mostly based on you selling your wheels than anything else! Lol. I guess you know the protocol and make a post @ your earliest convenience and GLWS Thanks. Z

      https://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/board,30.0.html (https://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/board,30.0.html)

CroR1 and bpd1151, I too live in the Chicago area and I am looking to get these H&R springs installed. If you don't mind me asking, how has the car handled around downtown Chicago and the surrounding area? We all know the roads here suck and I before I dish out the cash to have them installed want to make sure I won't have and experience like ZSHO.

Also, if you don't mind me asking, what did you pay for install. Got a quote today ($600) and it seems high for install and alignment.

Quote from: WickedSHO on September 26, 2017, 11:42:31 AM
CroR1 and bpd1151, I too live in the Chicago area and I am looking to get these H&R springs installed. If you don't mind me asking, how has the car handled around downtown Chicago and the surrounding area? We all know the roads here suck and I before I dish out the cash to have them installed want to make sure I won't have and experience like ZSHO.

Also, if you don't mind me asking, what did you pay for install. Got a quote today ($600) and it seems high for install and alignment.

I really had no issues with the H&R's, or even the Megan's thus far.

They're both really great products for what they are.

I will say that I avoid some of those damn side streets in the heart of the City though, as they've installed a multitude of those speed tables (speed humps in laymens terms) and some of those things are insanely high!

And I avoid them not so much for the suspension in and of itself, but more so because I have that lower front chin spoiler installed, & I'd fk'n go bananas if I tore that thing off, or damaged it either approaching those tables, or coming down on them at the backside.

Either way, I have a very very good friend, who is a mechanic, owns his own shop, but it's out in the Southwest 'burbs near Joliet.

He's been instrumental in my own SHO, handles all of my other vehicles I own, and everyone I've sent his way, has been nothing but complimentary.

I think he can cut that install price in half of what you were quoted. If you'd like his info, PM me, and we exchange accordingly.

@CroR1......  say it ain't say so! You'rr thinking about selling your beast? Ugh. **smh**. Tsk tsk.

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I think my view has changed somewhat as you will need to be patient until the suspension settles/breaks in similar to having new brakes installed.
The bouncy feeling has subsided a bit with roughly 300 miles of driving.

I think it matters if your having just the Springs installed or the whole kit and caboodle which in my case was new Struts,shocks,springs which could of an impact on the ride quality which could influence your review. Z

FYI would make certain to install new strut mounts for a peace of mind.

@-WickedSHO How many miles on your SHO?

Just hit 22K.

Quote from: WickedSHO on September 26, 2017, 12:39:58 PM
Just hit 22K.

@ 22k would consider having the rear shocks changed as they are prone to leaking but a personal preference IMO.
IMHO would not bother installing new Struts,especially @22K only the Strut mounts as mentioned ^^^

The front Struts/Springs are a pain to do and are time consuming and labor extensive to say the least.

The rear shocks are quite simple and probably the easiest part of the whole process and would make certain to get new Specialty cam bolts  for the rear part number 81280 IIRC.
Best of luck and any questions feel free to ask. Z  :)

Btw would certainly accommodate bpd1151 offer!! a generous one @ that. Z

Thank's ZSHO for the info. I will surely consider getting new shocks for the rear.

bpd, when I am ready for install, I will reach out to you and hopefully we can exchange info on your mechanic friend.

Thanks again fellas!

Here a couple more pics. Z
                                                   Before
(https://i.imgur.com/kdgWDbdh.jpg?1)
                                                       After
(https://i.imgur.com/KxgWmV1h.jpg?1)
(https://i.imgur.com/2Bd1xh5h.jpg?1)(https://i.imgur.com/H6egcczh.jpg?1)

Z, I am betting an actual side on shot would be MOST appreciated by everyone.

This way the viewer can see right on/directly how well it sits. Sits from front to back, and how much room is in your wells, etc.

Just a suggestion.

For example, and I am really digging way, way, wwwaaaayyyyyy back in the photo vault for these images..... but these were captured back in the Summer of 2010, shortly after I had the H&R's installed.

The silver taurus on the left is stock height. Mine on the right is lowered on H&R's.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170927/069b434011e020f8b98ae3f4e9f87e8f.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170927/ac54765681bf8ee5a82c4c3d4c8b62d9.jpg)

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True indeed there bpd1151! Pic's are based from my phone and currently don't have a Sponsor to add the finishing touches nor am I seeking one.

I did add a sample before and after but until then live long and prosper my friend. Z
   https://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,8310.15.html (https://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,8310.15.html)

I remember those pics, was a nice photoshoot, Mike!

Quote from: SHOdded on September 26, 2017, 11:19:22 PM
I remember those pics, was a nice photoshoot, Mike!

You young Jedi, have a very good memory!

Oh yes indeed.

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For Side by Side Reference:

The 2011 Lowered With H&R's Stock Shocks and the Pirelli's Handles Like it is on Rails,
Side of the tires Show how much I like to Corner, The Stock 2010 Rides, corners & handles OK,

I travel to Chi Town 4-6 Times A Year, Which one would i like to drive: The 2011 of course
even with the pot holes, bad roads and worse drivers....

Quote from: bpd1151 on September 26, 2017, 08:43:12 PM
Z, I am betting an actual side on shot would be MOST appreciated by everyone.

This way the viewer can see right on/directly how well it sits. Sits from front to back, and how much room is in your wells, etc.

Just a suggestion.

For example, and I am really digging way, way, wwwaaaayyyyyy back in the photo vault for these images..... but these were captured back in the Summer of 2010, shortly after I had the H&R's installed.

The silver taurus on the left is stock height. Mine on the right is lowered on H&R's.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170927/069b434011e020f8b98ae3f4e9f87e8f.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170927/ac54765681bf8ee5a82c4c3d4c8b62d9.jpg)

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Thanks bpd1151   .......

Yes Please. Even the other pics posted are white and the contrast is hard to make out the gap. You cannot tell what changed and by how much.

The part numbers provided on page one are indeed correct for those who had there doubts such as hawkeye93 and needed closure for a peace of mind.

https://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,8310.0.html (https://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,8310.0.html)

I must admit the part numbers for the Front Struts can be very confusing between the PP-SHO & NON-PP due to (supersession) .

Here are some pics of the 13+ PP-SHO Struts for comparison. Z

(https://i.imgur.com/SQoZwQoh.jpg?4)(https://i.imgur.com/KHobSFuh.jpg)

Manufacturer:   Ford
Part Number:   DG1Z-18124-U
Part:   Strut
Replaces:   AST-12256-, DG1Z-18124-L

Notes
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SHO;Performance Pack...   

2015   Ford   Taurus   SHO Sedan 4-Door   3.5L 3496CC 213Cu. In. V6 GAS DOHC Turbocharged
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2014   Ford   Police Interceptor Sedan   Base Sedan 4-Door   3.5L 3496CC 213Cu. In. V6 GAS DOHC Turbocharged
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2014   Ford   Police Interceptor Sedan   Base Sedan 4-Door   3.7L 3726CC 227Cu. In. V6 GAS DOHC Naturally Aspirated
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2014   Ford   Taurus   SHO Sedan 4-Door   3.5L 3496CC 213Cu. In. V6 GAS DOHC Turbocharged
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2013   Ford   Police Interceptor Sedan   Base Sedan 4-Door   3.5L 3496CC 213Cu. In. V6 GAS DOHC Naturally Aspirated
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2013   Ford   Police Interceptor Sedan   Base Sedan 4-Door   3.5L 3496CC 213Cu. In. V6 GAS DOHC Turbocharged
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2013   Ford   Police Interceptor Sedan   Base Sedan 4-Door   3.7L 3726CC 227Cu. In. V6 GAS DOHC Naturally Aspirated
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2013   Ford   Taurus   SHO Sedan 4-Door   3.5L 3496CC 213Cu. In. V6 GAS DOHC Turbocharged.


https://www.tascaparts.com/oem-parts/ford-strut-dg1z18124u/?c=Zz1mcm9udC1zdXNwZW5zaW9uJnM9c3RydXRzLWFuZC1jb21wb25lbnRzJmk9Sk4xMDM1NjUmcj0xJmE9Zm9yZCZvPXRhdXJ1cyZ5PTIwMTMmdD1zaG8mZT0zLTVsLXY2LWdhcw%3D%3D (https://www.tascaparts.com/oem-parts/ford-strut-dg1z18124u/?c=Zz1mcm9udC1zdXNwZW5zaW9uJnM9c3RydXRzLWFuZC1jb21wb25lbnRzJmk9Sk4xMDM1NjUmcj0xJmE9Zm9yZCZvPXRhdXJ1cyZ5PTIwMTMmdD1zaG8mZT0zLTVsLXY2LWdhcw%3D%3D)

So other than the H&R springs:
http://www.unleashedtuning.com/h-r-ford-2010-15-taurus-sho-v6-awd-turbo-sport-spring/ (http://www.unleashedtuning.com/h-r-ford-2010-15-taurus-sho-v6-awd-turbo-sport-spring/)

What is a good link to the longer bolts for the rear i have seen mentioned in a few places?

Quote from: gtmorgan23 on September 28, 2017, 05:05:10 PM
So other than the H&R springs:
http://www.unleashedtuning.com/h-r-ford-2010-15-taurus-sho-v6-awd-turbo-sport-spring/ (http://www.unleashedtuning.com/h-r-ford-2010-15-taurus-sho-v6-awd-turbo-sport-spring/)

What is a good link to the longer bolts for the rear i have seen mentioned in a few places?

I purchased the Specialty 81280 XR rear camber bolts which I believe are an updated revised version. Z

(81280 - EZ CAM XR (16MM - 2)

$24.29 -set.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/81280-SPC-Alignment-Cam-Bolt-Kit-Front-Rear-16MM-/232358283817?epid=110234791&hash=item3619a20a29:g:j4sAAOSwfcVUB7T-&vxp=mtr (http://www.ebay.com/itm/81280-SPC-Alignment-Cam-Bolt-Kit-Front-Rear-16MM-/232358283817?epid=110234791&hash=item3619a20a29:g:j4sAAOSwfcVUB7T-&vxp=mtr)

http://www.spcalignment.com/index.php?option=com_spc&task=part_description&pid=81280 (http://www.spcalignment.com/index.php?option=com_spc&task=part_description&pid=81280)


   http://www.jegs.com/i/Specialty-Products/827/81280/10002/-1?CAWELAID=1710547498&CAGPSPN=pla&CAAGID=44693592161&CATCI=pla-191844202151&CATARGETID=230006180039217633&cadevice=m&gclid=CjwKCAjwu7LOBRBZEiwAQtfbGFm1-7Qu2GPU1nWfBQFC6IxkeO90Y07o6QaO3aC44B-JVme0TXY5QxoCgioQAvD_BwE (http://www.jegs.com/i/Specialty-Products/827/81280/10002/-1?CAWELAID=1710547498&CAGPSPN=pla&CAAGID=44693592161&CATCI=pla-191844202151&CATARGETID=230006180039217633&cadevice=m&gclid=CjwKCAjwu7LOBRBZEiwAQtfbGFm1-7Qu2GPU1nWfBQFC6IxkeO90Y07o6QaO3aC44B-JVme0TXY5QxoCgioQAvD_BwE)


   

Also available on prime:
https://www.amazon.com/Specialty-Products-Company-81280-Adjuster/dp/B000CB3QUI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1506641303&sr=8-1&keywords=81280 (https://www.amazon.com/Specialty-Products-Company-81280-Adjuster/dp/B000CB3QUI/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1506641303&sr=8-1&keywords=81280)

Quote from: ZSHO on September 28, 2017, 04:00:56 PM
The part numbers provided on page one are indeed correct for those who had there doubts such as hawkeye93 and needed closure for a peace of mind.

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https://www.tascaparts.com/oem-parts/ford-strut-dg1z18124u/?c=Zz1mcm9udC1zdXNwZW5zaW9uJnM9c3RydXRzLWFuZC1jb21wb25lbnRzJmk9Sk4xMDM1NjUmcj0xJmE9Zm9yZCZvPXRhdXJ1cyZ5PTIwMTMmdD1zaG8mZT0zLTVsLXY2LWdhcw%3D%3D (https://www.tascaparts.com/oem-parts/ford-strut-dg1z18124u/?c=Zz1mcm9udC1zdXNwZW5zaW9uJnM9c3RydXRzLWFuZC1jb21wb25lbnRzJmk9Sk4xMDM1NjUmcj0xJmE9Zm9yZCZvPXRhdXJ1cyZ5PTIwMTMmdD1zaG8mZT0zLTVsLXY2LWdhcw%3D%3D)

Z, do you realize the link you posted says "2013-17, 3.5L, turbo, without sho pkg 1."?  SHO Pkg 1 is the performance package.  I still maintain that you are using the non-PP struts.  But you enjoy your bouncy ride.

Quote from: hawkeye93 on September 28, 2017, 10:38:35 PM

Quote from: ZSHO on September 28, 2017, 04:00:56 PM
The part numbers provided on page one are indeed correct for those who had there doubts such as hawkeye93 and needed closure for a peace of mind.

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https://www.tascaparts.com/oem-parts/ford-strut-dg1z18124u/?c=Zz1mcm9udC1zdXNwZW5zaW9uJnM9c3RydXRzLWFuZC1jb21wb25lbnRzJmk9Sk4xMDM1NjUmcj0xJmE9Zm9yZCZvPXRhdXJ1cyZ5PTIwMTMmdD1zaG8mZT0zLTVsLXY2LWdhcw%3D%3D (https://www.tascaparts.com/oem-parts/ford-strut-dg1z18124u/?c=Zz1mcm9udC1zdXNwZW5zaW9uJnM9c3RydXRzLWFuZC1jb21wb25lbnRzJmk9Sk4xMDM1NjUmcj0xJmE9Zm9yZCZvPXRhdXJ1cyZ5PTIwMTMmdD1zaG8mZT0zLTVsLXY2LWdhcw%3D%3D)

Z, do you realize the link you posted says "2013-17, 3.5L, turbo, without sho pkg 1."?  SHO Pkg 1 is the performance package.  I still maintain that you are using the non-PP struts.  But you enjoy your bouncy ride.

If those are the same number Z and I came to agreement on in one of my posts, they are stiff as hell. Some of the bumps scare me they are so hard, i check my teeth in the mirror after lol.

I'm not trying to stir up trouble in the least bit, but it is odd that they would list this strut as w/o SHO package 1.  At least in the case of the brakes, in order to get the PP calipers, I had to order them as W/SHO package 1. 

Z knows his parts better than I do though.  I just know that with the brakes, the key is W/SHO package 1 option.  Otherwise you don't get the red seals or the performance friction pads.

I was really curious about this so I did some digging.  Using a VIN from a PP SHO to pull up the parts and I do get the same part numbers posted by Z.  The last digits are the U and W struts for the PP.

Like I said, he definitely knows his parts and like he said, the part numbers for these cars can be a mess!

I bet if you enter a non-PP VIN, you'll get the same result.  The VIN doesn't contain package info.

Quote from: hawkeye93 on September 29, 2017, 08:55:04 AM
I bet if you enter a non-PP VIN, you'll get the same result.  The VIN doesn't contain package info.

It narrowed it to only one option.  I'll try a non-PP and see what I get.

Edit - Just tried it.  Non-PP you get the Y/X numbers.

The VIN does narrow it to package options.  That's how I got my PP calipers.  Put the VIN into Ford's system at the dealer and it gave only one option.  This does not work outside of Ford, but inside Ford the VIN narrows it to your car.  That's why they want your VIN at the dealership parts counter.

FYI another indicator is that the PP-SHO option would have (Non Painted Brake Calipers),versus with (Painted Black Calipers) option for the NON-PP.  Z

UPDATE I noticed the bouncy feeling has definitely subsided and the ride feels so so such better .IMHO and needs to settle in. Z :)

I also contacted Tire rack and here was there response!!! hope this helps someone justify there decision on purchasing a set of H&R Springs.

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H&R Sport Spring Set
FRONT AND REAR
Ride Height: Moderate Lowering
Manufacturer Part #: 51626
Note: Avg low 1.4"F & 1.5"R.
Qty:Per Kit:
1
$231.00 Availability: In Stock
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Description
Lea en español
H&R Sport Springs are designed and engineered for each particular application to lower the vehicle's center of gravity and reduce body roll. They offer the correct spring rate for low, aggressive looks, high performance handling and no ride harshness! Stock ride comfort is retained while a lowered ride height between 1.25" – 1.8" on average can be expected.

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hi there! I purchased a set of the h&r springs 51626 and installed new struts,shocks and it appears there is a bouncy ride.
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Is that normal? do they need to break in? thanks so much
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Yes, they will need a few hundred miles to settle in.

Quote from: ZSHO on October 03, 2017, 07:36:43 PM
UPDATE I noticed the bouncy feeling has definitely subsided and the ride feels so so such better .IMHO and needs to settle in. Z :)

I also contacted Tire rack and here was there response!!! hope this helps someone justify there decision on purchasing a set of H&R Springs.

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H&R Sport Spring Set
FRONT AND REAR
Ride Height: Moderate Lowering
Manufacturer Part #: 51626
Note: Avg low 1.4"F & 1.5"R.
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1
$231.00 Availability: In Stock
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Description
Lea en español
H&R Sport Springs are designed and engineered for each particular application to lower the vehicle's center of gravity and reduce body roll. They offer the correct spring rate for low, aggressive looks, high performance handling and no ride harshness! Stock ride comfort is retained while a lowered ride height between 1.25" – 1.8" on average can be expected.

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hi there! I purchased a set of the h&r springs 51626 and installed new struts,shocks and it appears there is a bouncy ride.
ZSHO at 18:11, Oct 1:
Is that normal? do they need to break in? thanks so much
Gill at 18:12, Oct 1:
Yes, they will need a few hundred miles to settle in.

Thx for posting this Z, this is looking like a more realistic option due to the lack of availability on the Megan's.

I actually was thinking about that but did not want to influence your decision between the two!!. Best of luck Glock. Z
I noticed the SHO will stop soooo much better since having these installed.

Btw dont get to close to the curb. Lol. 
(https://i.imgur.com/GWXDDB7h.jpg?1)(https://i.imgur.com/hXOm5Eeh.jpg?1)

Def gonna do these. Too inexpensive not too do it.

Quote from: ZSHO on September 16, 2017, 01:33:09 PM
(Quick Update) and CroR1 is Spot on!!!  Here are my initial impressions!!
I noticed overall better steering response and body roll(handling) coming from a Big-Naughty-4400 lb-Girl.
I guess it all depends on the road conditions but noticed the ride is much harsher even with the new Springs,Struts,shock,combination installed and probably something I need to get accustomed too. Z  :drive:

Your car is a PP so supposedly ride stiffer than non PP already, and these made it even stiffer?
Hows the ride now with some miles on it, you mentioned not as bouncy now that it is settling, but is it still harsh? 

Quote from: lamrith on October 04, 2017, 03:18:43 PM

Quote from: ZSHO on September 16, 2017, 01:33:09 PM
(Quick Update) and CroR1 is Spot on!!!  Here are my initial impressions!!
I noticed overall better steering response and body roll(handling) coming from a Big-Naughty-4400 lb-Girl.
I guess it all depends on the road conditions but noticed the ride is much harsher even with the new Springs,Struts,shock,combination installed and probably something I need to get accustomed too. Z  :drive:

Your car is a PP so supposedly ride stiffer than non PP already, and these made it even stiffer?
Hows the ride now with some miles on it, you mentioned not as bouncy now that it is settling, but is it still harsh?

Why you ask? hope your not needing new Struts,shocks after piling your trunk with sand bags. J/K. Lol.  :P

Its not that harsh as some portray it to be with the exception of pot holes which could be a pain in the ass. Lol.
I will reiterate once again that it really depends on the road conditions and current wheel/tire setup which could have an impact on what exactly your feeling which could persuade your review,end results.
FWIW I am running the Conti DW-Summer tires which have an overall softer compound.

The car feels more agile(nimble)with overall better steering response with very very minimum body roll especially @ high speeds and being able to maneuver,weave in and out of traffic effortlessly on a given chance is a big plus and having that confidence level coming from a 4400 lbs beast is priceless . Z

Quote from: ZSHO on October 04, 2017, 04:37:49 PM

Quote from: lamrith on October 04, 2017, 03:18:43 PM

Quote from: ZSHO on September 16, 2017, 01:33:09 PM
(Quick Update) and CroR1 is Spot on!!!  Here are my initial impressions!!
I noticed overall better steering response and body roll(handling) coming from a Big-Naughty-4400 lb-Girl.
I guess it all depends on the road conditions but noticed the ride is much harsher even with the new Springs,Struts,shock,combination installed and probably something I need to get accustomed too. Z  :drive:

Your car is a PP so supposedly ride stiffer than non PP already, and these made it even stiffer?
Hows the ride now with some miles on it, you mentioned not as bouncy now that it is settling, but is it still harsh?

Why you ask? hope your not needing new Struts,shocks after piling your trunk with sand bags. JK. Lol.  :P

Its not that harsh as some portray it to be with the exception of pot holes which could be a pain in the ass. Lol.
I will reiterate once again that it really depends on the road conditions and wheel/tire setup which could have an impact on what exactly your feeling which could persuade your review.
FWIW I am running the Conti DW-Summer tires which have an overall softer compound.

The car feels more agile(nimble)with overall better steering response with very very minimum body roll especially @ high speeds and being able to maneuver,weave in and out of traffic effortlessly on a given chance is a big plus and having that confidence level coming from a 4400 lbs beast is priceless . Z

HAHA  Asking for purely scientific reasons! >:D

No I do not need new struts/shocks, but I have been contemplating the H&R springs, but am concerned about the ride.  She is my DD and I enjoy the comfort it has currently.

And yes the trunk loading is another concern.  While it is not Sand, I do sell BBQ Wood pellets as a side gig and it is not uncommon for me to need to haul up to 400# around town.  Max weight maybe once a month, usually 40-100#.  Having the extra tire gap comes in handy on those days, but man I would love to have her handling and looking better!

Hey with 400# in the trunk. You might clear curbs in the front then after installing these.

Quote from: Macgyver on October 04, 2017, 08:59:25 PM
Hey with 400# in the trunk. You might clear curbs in the front then after installing these.

I think you might consider a Towing Tune with the extra weight. Lol.  Z

Well the Taurus can fit four dead bodies in the trunk so maybe call it a Hearse tune. LOL

Good question tho. With the HR springs installed. He puts 400# in the trunk. Will the Front end come up like other cars? Not sure with the shorter springs and such.

I had the strut tower bolts re-torqued to oem specs for added measures and the overall suspension is riding nice and tight and couldn't be happier.  Z

(https://i.imgur.com/eSt0Q3wh.jpg?1)(https://i.imgur.com/B6P4rY5h.jpg)

FRONT SPRINGS
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8JUL90DXgdiUHN5bXdBanJjNWpuby1UV2Q0N0o3OUQtZmJN

REAR SPRINGS
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8JUL90DXgdiUHN5bXdBanJjNWpuby1UV2Q0N0o3OUQtZmJN
(https://i.imgur.com/evHNGNfh.png)

Lookin' great as always!

That is a relief.

Seems this is the way to go if Coil overs are out of your $$$ and you can install these yourself. Saves $$$

I would say with the new H&R SPRINGS strut-shocks-setup netted an overall Best 1.752  - 60'- times.  Z  :)

I recently moved up from a 2011 PP that had the H&R springs installed  to a 2015 PP. The ride on the 2015 with factory shocks and springs is by far smoother and less harsh. However, I miss the lower CG the H&R's give you along with the look and feel of the road. I will at least wait until next spring to decide if I'll install H&Rs on the 2015.

Did you use the MC OEM or the heavy duty struts. Are there any aftermarket recommendable that is better lasting quality then MC? I just need struts n shocks, springs are fine and I don't want any harsher for a DD. Just looking for "better" then stock PP.

Quote from: Crazyeights on October 23, 2017, 01:44:46 PM
I recently moved up from a 2011 PP that had the H&R springs installed  to a 2015 PP. The ride on the 2015 with factory shocks and springs is by far smoother and less harsh. However, I miss the lower CG the H&R's give you along with the look and feel of the road. I will at least wait until next spring to decide if I'll install H&Rs on the 2015.

This is good info.

Maybe non-pp gen 1 struts with H&Rs is what I'm looking for.

Z has some pretty nice 60-fts with his...

Quote from: ZSHO on October 13, 2017, 11:12:03 AM
I had the strut tower bolts re-torqued to oem specs for added measures and the overall suspension is riding nice and tight and couldn't be happier.  Z

(https://i.imgur.com/eSt0Q3wh.jpg?1)(https://i.imgur.com/B6P4rY5h.jpg)

FRONT SPRINGS
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8JUL90DXgdiUHN5bXdBanJjNWpuby1UV2Q0N0o3OUQtZmJN

REAR SPRINGS
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B8JUL90DXgdiUHN5bXdBanJjNWpuby1UV2Q0N0o3OUQtZmJN
(https://i.imgur.com/evHNGNfh.png)

Z, its hard to tell from those angles, is there any rake with your setup?

I like me some rake...

FoMoCo will try to get some more pics later. 
I might go with a bit wider wheel setup in the Spring. Z

(https://i.imgur.com/qm11G6Ah.jpg)

Maybe with all that weight in the trunk, you'd need these:
http://www.sdtrucksprings.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=17955&gclid=CjwKCAiApJnRBRBlEiwAPTgmxFaffaXtGMEyD8BGE3uZAgeVWpDCcOZW42QTSLJUqQxSgaLAz1MtxRoCAzAQAvD_BwE (http://www.sdtrucksprings.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=17955&gclid=CjwKCAiApJnRBRBlEiwAPTgmxFaffaXtGMEyD8BGE3uZAgeVWpDCcOZW42QTSLJUqQxSgaLAz1MtxRoCAzAQAvD_BwE)

ZSHO..... Thanks for all the help with the struts, I ordered from Rockauto at 1143 am on fri, I recieved them the NEXT DAY Saturday at 1234 pm! Awesome! Great service especially around the holiday and weather problems here on East coast....Parts are correct for the PP 13 SHO....

Next day!!!

Going to Necro thread this one a bit.  Only reason is that this one thread seems to be a great single source for info on the springs, struts, etc and it would be a great one to sticky long term..

CAMBER BOLTS.  Which ones are the correct ones?  When I check the 81280 they are saying they do not fit the SHO and the pictures are for a front strut type assembly.  I also thought I read in one of the threads about the length of the 81280 not being correct?

But the 84130 are coming up as SHO rear camber bolts per SPC lookup?
http://www.spcalignment.com/index.php?option=com_spc&task=details (http://www.spcalignment.com/index.php?option=com_spc&task=details)

Or maybe the 84130 are a new product that was not available when this thread was started?

And yes I am bringing it up because I did a thing on Friday and want the correct bolts inhand when the time comes.  :evilB:
I already ordered the 84130's so hoping they work!
:homer:

84130 apparently is the updated part number.  glock has posted details on these two P/Ns over at shoforum:
https://shoforum.com/index.php?threads/confused-about-camber-bolts-h-r%E2%80%99s-installed.137388/#post-1488058

Awesome, thanks! 

I ordered the 84130's and was twitching that they were incorrect for a while there.

SO quick update so we can keep some of the H&R info in one place.  I have about 500 miles on my H&R's.  Out of the gate it was MUCH harder riding than the PP springs I had in the car (57k miles).  They have softened a bit and I have/had been happy with them. 

Took a trip north to Seattle last weekend. HATED the way the car rode.  As bad as my roads are here, Seattle was a nightmare.  Constantly felt it compressing and bottoming the springs or bump stops.  On I5 heading home the road is cement segments and expansion joints.  At any freeway speeds it was like riding a bucking bronco.  Really broke my heart as I love the way the car looks and it definitely handles better in corners.  I am starting to debate if I want to keep them long term.  I do not mind a firm ride, but the hard bottoming is just very jarring and not enjoyable.  These springs were brand new so I want to give them more time, at least 1k.

Is there maybe a trick or way to shorted the bumptops a hair to increase a bit of the range off motion and maybe ease off some of the hard bottom?

Quote from: lamrith on June 11, 2018, 06:17:58 PM
SO quick update so we can keep some of the H&R info in one place.  I have about 500 miles on my H&R's.  Out of the gate it was MUCH harder riding than the PP springs I had in the car (57k miles).  They have softened a bit and I have/had been happy with them. 

Took a trip north to Seattle last weekend. HATED the way the car rode.  As bad as my roads are here, Seattle was a nightmare.  Constantly felt it compressing and bottoming the springs or bump stops.  On I5 heading home the road is cement segments and expansion joints.  At any freeway speeds it was like riding a bucking bronco.  Really broke my heart as I love the way the car looks and it definitely handles better in corners.  I am starting to debate if I want to keep them long term.  I do not mind a firm ride, but the hard bottoming is just very jarring and not enjoyable.  These springs were brand new so I want to give them more time, at least 1k.

Is there maybe a trick or way to shorted the bumptops a hair to increase a bit of the range off motion and maybe ease off some of the hard bottom?

New Strut mounts installed! Struts-Shocks new! something is a miss!!!  Z

Wider wheels make a difference, maybe?  Doesn't seem to be an issue on bpd's SHO ...

This is classic lowered car ride type of stuff.  I will say the sho on normal roads rides like a dream even lowered, way better than other lowered cars I have been in.  However in some areas (like seattle) the roads are crap and very uneven, 4400#+ vehicle, they just get moving and being lowered I am finding that it is reaching max range of motion.  They do not have potholes, just very uneven pavement.  The car is not pogo'ing like bad struts etc, and they are not leaking or showing any failure signs and were working great before I lowered it.  My simple solution is to not go to Seattle, I am not a fan of the city anyway, rather stay down here in the rural area.

But real world is that I will be going up there sometimes, so going to have to think about what to do.

I should clarify, I am not dismissing your helpful comments and tips Z or SHOdded, on the contrary it did make me stop and analyze all the driving and roads I have been on and how the car behaves!  Which is why I do not feel it is a shock/strut issue.

I just know that the section of road that really made for the uncomfortable ride is one that gets ALL cars heaving about.  Every car I have ever driven thru that section of I5 in downtown seattle gets moving up and down.  It is elevated cement freeway with metal expansion joints, and the amount of sag between sections just gets you moving up/down.  For those that boat at all it would be like cruising at max speed on a pretty flat section of water that has low very spread out rollers.  About the time you settle into the bottom you are coming back up and after a few the momentum gets going and yeeeha.  It truly is a crap stretch of road, and the city streets are  cracked, uneven etc as well with all the drainage, and uneven settling of the ground etc.

Thankfully I rarely go up there, maybe once a year.  However this is my DD and I do not want to be thinking in the back of my mind if I can go someplace or if I will have a problem with ground clearance.  I also do haul around hundreds of # of pellets in my trunk a few times a week (today is 320#)  I am going to give it a little bit longer though.  I REALLY wish there was an airbag kit for these cars, lot of $ but it would be the golden ticket.

It helps that I will be getting my mustang back in Dec and have the green light to fully molest it into a sunny day road menace and get my lowered, hotrod fixx.

Didn't think you were being dismissive :)  I think your comments are very much in line with what people should expect from lowered rides.  There is no mod that is purely advantageous, always caveats that need attention paid to.

Quote from: SHOdded on June 12, 2018, 11:37:03 AM
Didn't think you were being dismissive :)  I think your comments are very much in line with what people should expect from lowered rides.  There is no mod that is purely advantageous, always caveats that need attention paid to.

Yes.  I will say that the SHO with H&R rides better than any other lowered car I have been in.  Just might be too much for me still.  I am letting it stay for now though.  Hard to give-up how good it looks right now, makes me smile when I see it!

I think sometimes you need to compromise a bit and in this case the positives outweigh the negatives IMO!  BTW Don't forget its a 4400 pound AWD BEAST !! Z

Quote from: lamrith on June 12, 2018, 12:52:11 PM

Quote from: SHOdded on June 12, 2018, 11:37:03 AM
Didn't think you were being dismissive :)  I think your comments are very much in line with what people should expect from lowered rides.  There is no mod that is purely advantageous, always caveats that need attention paid to.

Yes.  I will say that the SHO with H&R rides better than any other lowered car I have been in.  Just might be too much for me still.  I am letting it stay for now though.  Hard to give-up how good it looks right now, makes me smile when I see it!

I agree with lamrith 100%.
Looks fantastic but NE Ohio roads are terrible and it's not a pleasant combo.
I'm seriously considering putting the stock springs back on.

I liked the ride quality and handling of the H&R springs until I changed the shocks and struts to the PP setup. Now the ride is WAY too harsh and rough roads are jarring.
If it's time for new struts and shocks, go with the non PP setup for a much better ride with no loss of handling capability.

Quote from: Leadfoot on June 20, 2018, 10:50:18 AM
I liked the ride quality and handling of the H&R springs until I changed the shocks and struts to the PP setup. Now the ride is WAY too harsh and rough roads are jarring.
If it's time for new struts and shocks, go with the non PP setup for a much better ride with no loss of handling capability.

The new PP setup you installed, does it ride harder all the time every little bump, or just bigger hits?

Did the non PP setup let the car move to point you felt the springs or bumpstops limiting travel?  That is the part of the ride I am having issue with on my install.  The basic rough road surfaces, cracks, and little bumps I do not have any issue with, just the bigger dips and pumps.  dropping off a speed bump for example there is a hard bottom to the suspension travel where you can feel that it just does not have any more range of motion, it is at max travel.

Quote from: lamrith on June 20, 2018, 01:45:10 PM

Quote from: Leadfoot on June 20, 2018, 10:50:18 AM
I liked the ride quality and handling of the H&R springs until I changed the shocks and struts to the PP setup. Now the ride is WAY too harsh and rough roads are jarring.
If it's time for new struts and shocks, go with the non PP setup for a much better ride with no loss of handling capability.

The new PP setup you installed, does it ride harder all the time every little bump, or just bigger hits?

Did the non PP setup let the car move to point you felt the springs or bumpstops limiting travel?  That is the part of the ride I am having issue with on my install.  The basic rough road surfaces, cracks, and little bumps I do not have any issue with, just the bigger dips and pumps.  dropping off a speed bump for example there is a hard bottom to the suspension travel where you can feel that it just does not have any more range of motion, it is at max travel.

The PP setup rides harder all the time. The non PP setup was firm but the PP setup is harsh.

The non PP setup never hit the bumpstops, and the PP setup doesn't either but the PP feels like it on big dips like potholes.

I think the type of tires play a significant role on exactly how the car reacts and feels! 
I have also installed many new suspension components such as Struts-Strut mounts-Shocks -Sway bar end links -Wheel hubs and axle shafts-thrust washers-all @ roughly 64K  Z

Quote from: ZSHO on June 20, 2018, 03:18:46 PM
I think the type of tires play a significant role on exactly how the car reacts and feels! 

Most definitely, as well as pressure they are run at.

Quote from: ZSHO on June 20, 2018, 03:18:46 PMI have also installed many new suspension components such as Struts-Strut mounts-Shocks -Sway bar end links -Wheel hubs and axle shafts-thrust washers-all @ roughly 64K  Z

Got yourself a new car!  It sure looks it with the way you maintain it!

I like the way mine rides, right up until the point the suspension maxes out and it has that hard bottom point to it.  Just taking my time and evaluating. 
I am honestly considering pulling a few mods back, mostly because after December I will have a dedicated streetcar project to get my firm ride, high HP, hammering thru the corners fix with.  Dial back the SHO a bit to more of a comfy DD.

Quote from: lamrith on June 20, 2018, 05:01:11 PM

Quote from: ZSHO on June 20, 2018, 03:18:46 PM
I think the type of tires play a significant role on exactly how the car reacts and feels! 

Most definitely, as well as pressure they are run at.

Quote from: ZSHO on June 20, 2018, 03:18:46 PMI have also installed many new suspension components such as Struts-Strut mounts-Shocks -Sway bar end links -Wheel hubs and axle shafts-thrust washers-all @ roughly 64K  Z

Got yourself a new car!  It sure looks it with the way you maintain it!

I like the way mine rides, right up until the point the suspension maxes out and it has that hard bottom point to it.  Just taking my time and evaluating. 
I am honestly considering pulling a few mods back, mostly because after December I will have a dedicated streetcar project to get my firm ride, high HP, hammering thru the corners fix with.  Dial back the SHO a bit to more of a comfy DD.

Thanks Bud! The SHO is here for the long haul! I got to much money invested!   :)  I tend so spend to much time on the SHO and the very reason the wife hates me! Lol.  BTW still have the Conti- DW Summer tires which provide an overall better ride IMO!  Z  :drive:

Yeah I had conti summers on my STSV, loved those tires. 
Once these Motivo's wear out (wish they would hurry up, I am not a fan) I am not sure what I am going to do, other than I know I am going 275/40-20 on all 4 corners.  Pretty sure I will go with the Firestone Indy 500's unless something else comes around on super sale.

Thanks to everyone in this thread for the incredible information!  You guys are excellent!

I've accepted the challenge and I'm installing my H & R springs (and cam bolts) on my 15 non-PP, this Saturday.  VERY much looking forward to how this turns out.  I'll post back here with the results.

Quote from: 4sfed on August 28, 2018, 10:52:47 PM
Thanks to everyone in this thread for the incredible information!  You guys are excellent!

I've accepted the challenge and I'm installing my H & R springs (and cam bolts) on my 15 non-PP, this Saturday.  VERY much looking forward to how this turns out.  I'll post back here with the results.

You'll love the looks and the ride.

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You will definitely like the looks.

Ride is very subjective, here in WA for my daily driver and the local roads it just did not work and I pulled my H&R's out 2 weeks ago to return to stock.  Scraping belly on speedbumps (they are everywhere here) and feeling suspension bottom out constantly just got old for a daily driver.

Make sure to get your alignment done after a few hundred miles to let them settle in.  The car will handle twitchy and odd until you do, but you need to let it settle in so just bear with it for a bit.

Any of you guys have the H&R's through a winter? Im on the fence about doing them before the New England winter here. I may wait until spring.

FYI- For anyone looking for the rear Camber bolts,found a sweet deal. Z  :)
Specialty  Products Company 81280 EZ Cam XR 16mm Adjuster Bolt - Pair.  Z

$21.98 - Pair

https://www.amazon.com/Specialty-Products-Company-81280-Adjuster/dp/B000CB3QUI?keywords=specialty+products+81280&qid=1535638576&sr=8-1-fkmrnull&ref=mp_s_a_1_fkmrnull_1 (https://www.amazon.com/Specialty-Products-Company-81280-Adjuster/dp/B000CB3QUI?keywords=specialty+products+81280&qid=1535638576&sr=8-1-fkmrnull&ref=mp_s_a_1_fkmrnull_1)

Quote from: shoNoff on August 30, 2018, 10:07:08 AM
Any of you guys have the H&R's through a winter? Im on the fence about doing them before the New England winter here. I may wait until spring.

I had them through 3/4 of one winter before I stopped driving the car in the winter.  It was completely fine. 

Quote from: shoNoff on August 30, 2018, 10:07:08 AM
Any of you guys have the H&R's through a winter? Im on the fence about doing them before the New England winter here. I may wait until spring.

Yup. Had them on for 5 winter seasons here in Chicago, including record snowfall events, as well as extreme cold temps, and they performed flawlessly.

I no longer daily drive my SHO either, and I have since upgraded to the Megan Racing coil overs.

But the H&R's were great given they were only springs.

I loved providing snow plow services for free, where ever I drove. Haha(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180830/d6246372907ba8af0071b1be5ef70d47.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180830/a373516c8d772c8e10943cf53bef3e21.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180830/81e058717a6cddd1a1a0af32fe1d14bf.jpg)

Quote from: ZSHO on August 30, 2018, 10:19:50 AM
FYI- For anyone looking for the rear Camber bolts,found a sweet deal. Z  :)

Specialty Products Company
Specialty Products 84130 FORD/LINCOLN REAR CAMBER ADJ

$21.78 - pair

https://www.amazon.com/Specialty-Products-84130-LINCOLN-CAMBER/dp/B01IPLDDGS?keywords=specialty+products+84130&qid=1535639202&sr=8-1-fkmrnull&ref=mp_s_a_1_fkmrnull_1 (https://www.amazon.com/Specialty-Products-84130-LINCOLN-CAMBER/dp/B01IPLDDGS?keywords=specialty+products+84130&qid=1535639202&sr=8-1-fkmrnull&ref=mp_s_a_1_fkmrnull_1)

FYI - that is one bolt, not the pair.  for some reason they do not sell the new correct rear bolt in pairs.  I bought that part number from amazon and had to buy qty:2.  Notes say 1 kit per wheel.

Jezz bdp you don't mess around even the tsw's on in the winter lol. I used to plow snow with my TL-S so I'm rather used it. I just didn't want it to be to low where the ground clearance was s*** and I couldn't ge through anything.

Lamrith I got your pm I'll not ignoring you I'm just in the middle of swapping my turbos at the moment.

Quote from: shoNoff on August 30, 2018, 12:45:00 PM
Jezz bdp you don't mess around even the tsw's on in the winter lol. I used to plow snow with my TL-S so I'm rather used it. I just didn't want it to be to low where the ground clearance was s*** and I couldn't ge through anything.

Lamrith I got your pm I'll not ignoring you I'm just in the middle of swapping my turbos at the moment.

I've only ran into a couple "issues" with being lowered so far. With 7-800+ lbs of people/crap in the car, the rear tires will rub on a good bump, but I have some 295s in back, so not unexpected. Other than that, be careful on big dips, (I've only had 1 place around where it was an issue so far, and it's a REALLY bad parking lot. (Rite Aid....going the way of AMES and SEARS...) I have found that hitting speed bumps at an angle keeps me from bottoming out as well...of course that may not always be an option for you.

Other than that...getting the car up in the air enough to get my fat azz  under it is one hell of a Jenga game, lol

Quote from: ZSHO on August 30, 2018, 10:19:50 AM
FYI- For anyone looking for the rear Camber bolts,found a sweet deal. Z  :)

Specialty Products Company
Specialty Products 84130 FORD/LINCOLN REAR CAMBER ADJ

$21.78 - pair

https://www.amazon.com/Specialty-Products-84130-LINCOLN-CAMBER/dp/B01IPLDDGS?keywords=specialty+products+84130&qid=1535639202&sr=8-1-fkmrnull&ref=mp_s_a_1_fkmrnull_1 (https://www.amazon.com/Specialty-Products-84130-LINCOLN-CAMBER/dp/B01IPLDDGS?keywords=specialty+products+84130&qid=1535639202&sr=8-1-fkmrnull&ref=mp_s_a_1_fkmrnull_1)

Specialty Products Company
Spewcialty Products Company 81280 EZ Cam XR 16mm Adjuster Bolt - Pair.  Z

$21.98 - Pair

https://www.amazon.com/Specialty-Products-Company-81280-Adjuster/dp/B000CB3QUI?keywords=specialty+products+81280&qid=1535638576&sr=8-1-fkmrnull&ref=mp_s_a_1_fkmrnull_1 (https://www.amazon.com/Specialty-Products-Company-81280-Adjuster/dp/B000CB3QUI?keywords=specialty+products+81280&qid=1535638576&sr=8-1-fkmrnull&ref=mp_s_a_1_fkmrnull_1)

Also mog k100383 can be used for camber bolts. They are roughly $16-$18 each.

Quote from: shoNoff on August 30, 2018, 12:45:00 PM
Jezz bdp you don't mess around even the tsw's on in the winter lol. I used to plow snow with my TL-S so I'm rather used it. I just didn't want it to be to low where the ground clearance was s*** and I couldn't ge through anything.

Lamrith I got your pm I'll not ignoring you I'm just in the middle of swapping my turbos at the moment.

No worries man!  I am still waiting to schedule and get in for alignment before I let them go anyway!

Quote from: lamrith on August 30, 2018, 12:14:50 PM

Quote from: ZSHO on August 30, 2018, 10:19:50 AM
FYI- For anyone looking for the rear Camber bolts,found a sweet deal. Z  :)

Specialty Products Company
Specialty Products 84130 FORD/LINCOLN REAR CAMBER ADJ

$21.78 - pair

https://www.amazon.com/Specialty-Products-84130-LINCOLN-CAMBER/dp/B01IPLDDGS?keywords=specialty+products+84130&qid=1535639202&sr=8-1-fkmrnull&ref=mp_s_a_1_fkmrnull_1 (https://www.amazon.com/Specialty-Products-84130-LINCOLN-CAMBER/dp/B01IPLDDGS?keywords=specialty+products+84130&qid=1535639202&sr=8-1-fkmrnull&ref=mp_s_a_1_fkmrnull_1)

FYI - that is one bolt, not the pair.  for some reason they do not sell the new correct rear bolt in pairs.  I bought that part number from amazon and had to buy qty:2.  Notes say 1 kit per wheel.

This is the Direct link for the 81280!
Specialty Products Company 81280 EZ Cam XR 16mm Adjuster Bolt - Pair
4.4 out of 5 stars 28
$21.98

Quote from: ZSHO on August 30, 2018, 10:19:50 AM
FYI- For anyone looking for the rear Camber bolts,found a sweet deal. Z 

Specialty Products Company
Specialty Products 84130 FORD/LINCOLN REAR CAMBER ADJ

$21.78 - pair

https://www.amazon.com/Specialty-Products-84130-LINCOLN-CAMBER/dp/B01IPLDDGS?keywords=specialty+products+84130&qid=1535639202&sr=8-1-fkmrnull&ref=mp_s_a_1_fkmrnull_1 (https://www.amazon.com/Specialty-Products-84130-LINCOLN-CAMBER/dp/B01IPLDDGS?keywords=specialty+products+84130&qid=1535639202&sr=8-1-fkmrnull&ref=mp_s_a_1_fkmrnull_1)

Specialty Products Company
Spewcialty Products Company 81280 EZ Cam XR 16mm Adjuster Bolt - Pair.  Z

$21.98 - Pair

https://www.amazon.com/Specialty-Products-Company-81280-Adjuster/dp/B000CB3QUI?keywords=specialty+products+81280&qid=1535638576&sr=8-1-fkmrnull&ref=mp_s_a_1_fkmrnull_1 (https://www.amazon.com/Specialty-Products-Company-81280-Adjuster/dp/B000CB3QUI?keywords=specialty+products+81280&qid=1535638576&sr=8-1-fkmrnull&ref=mp_s_a_1_fkmrnull_1)

Edit: Should've kept reading the thread...
It's already been noted.


The 84130 are sold individually for 21.78 2 are need for the rear.

Quote from: ZSHO on August 30, 2018, 03:03:10 PM

Quote from: lamrith on August 30, 2018, 12:14:50 PM

Quote from: ZSHO on August 30, 2018, 10:19:50 AM
FYI- For anyone looking for the rear Camber bolts,found a sweet deal. Z  :)

Specialty Products Company
Specialty Products 84130 FORD/LINCOLN REAR CAMBER ADJ

$21.78 - pair

https://www.amazon.com/Specialty-Products-84130-LINCOLN-CAMBER/dp/B01IPLDDGS?keywords=specialty+products+84130&qid=1535639202&sr=8-1-fkmrnull&ref=mp_s_a_1_fkmrnull_1 (https://www.amazon.com/Specialty-Products-84130-LINCOLN-CAMBER/dp/B01IPLDDGS?keywords=specialty+products+84130&qid=1535639202&sr=8-1-fkmrnull&ref=mp_s_a_1_fkmrnull_1)

FYI - that is one bolt, not the pair.  for some reason they do not sell the new correct rear bolt in pairs.  I bought that part number from amazon and had to buy qty:2.  Notes say 1 kit per wheel.

This is the Direct link for the 81280!
Specialty Products Company 81280 EZ Cam XR 16mm Adjuster Bolt - Pair
4.4 out of 5 stars 28
$21.98

yes 81280 is for a pair.  I quoted the 84130 section which are not a pair, they are sold singly.

Quote from: bpd1151 on August 30, 2018, 11:32:52 AM

Quote from: shoNoff on August 30, 2018, 10:07:08 AM
Any of you guys have the H&R's through a winter? Im on the fence about doing them before the New England winter here. I may wait until spring.

Yup. Had them on for 5 winter seasons here in Chicago, including record snowfall events, as well as extreme cold temps, and they performed flawlessly.

I no longer daily drive my SHO either, and I have since upgraded to the Megan Racing coil overs.

But the H&R's were great given they were only springs.

I loved providing snow plow services for free, where ever I drove. Haha(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180830/d6246372907ba8af0071b1be5ef70d47.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180830/a373516c8d772c8e10943cf53bef3e21.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180830/81e058717a6cddd1a1a0af32fe1d14bf.jpg)

Hahaha I would cringe to drive my SHO like that!  My front chin doesn't have 3M Clear Film to protect the paint.  I should do that soon! 

The lip was painted along with getting my bumper resprayed.  I don't tailgate and I still have some new chips here and there.  Should touch them up and get the paint protection film.  Does your bumper have it too? 

And the previous owner drove the car in a few winters.  How does your rear reinforcement bar look?  Mine needs to replaced.  When i go underneath the car its an eye sore! 

Im truly GLAD as the OP that many of you have found this thread very informative in many ways than one!
I appreciate everyones contributions,while keeping the Ecoboost community up to speed.
I will Sticky this topic!  Z  :)

Quote from: 4sfed on August 28, 2018, 10:52:47 PM
Thanks to everyone in this thread for the incredible information!  You guys are excellent!

I've accepted the challenge and I'm installing my H & R springs (and cam bolts) on my 15 non-PP, this Saturday.  VERY much looking forward to how this turns out.  I'll post back here with the results.

Okay!  All done!  And I love the way it looks, but I already knew what i would look like.  I can see why some people don't like the ride, but I'm gonna keep it.  Daddy like....

There ya go!  If some people were not made unhappy along the way, it wouldn't be worth it.  LOL.

Quote from: 4sfed on September 01, 2018, 09:43:44 PM

Quote from: 4sfed on August 28, 2018, 10:52:47 PM
Thanks to everyone in this thread for the incredible information!  You guys are excellent!

I've accepted the challenge and I'm installing my H & R springs (and cam bolts) on my 15 non-PP, this Saturday.  VERY much looking forward to how this turns out.  I'll post back here with the results.

Okay!  All done!  And I love the way it looks, but I already knew what i would look like.  I can see why some people don't like the ride, but I'm gonna keep it.  Daddy like....

I think Daddy would. Its Mommy that wouldnt.

Quote from: 4sfed on September 01, 2018, 09:43:44 PM

Quote from: 4sfed on August 28, 2018, 10:52:47 PM
Thanks to everyone in this thread for the incredible information!  You guys are excellent!

I've accepted the challenge and I'm installing my H & R springs (and cam bolts) on my 15 non-PP, this Saturday.  VERY much looking forward to how this turns out.  I'll post back here with the results.

Okay!  All done!  And I love the way it looks, but I already knew what i would look like.  I can see why some people don't like the ride, but I'm gonna keep it.  daddy like....

As everything settles in it definitely gets a lot better. I was gritting my teeth when I first installed them and took the car for a ride. Everything is a lot better now that everything is broken in and settle into place. One thing I would suggest is throwing in some extra weight in the trunk to help them settle in. Just imo

So a follow upon this tale...

I had some the pogo'ing going on.  Where some bumps would send the rear end off to the left or right side.

Turns out that it's the toe setting causing this. After letting everything settle in for a few weeks, I had a four wheel alignment done, and my rear toe (and overall toe) was pretty far off.

So if you're experiencing pogo'ing after putting these puppies on, get a four wheel alignment.

I'm am really liking the stance and the ride.


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Quote from: ZSHO on September 07, 2017, 09:30:13 AM
The H&R Springs should be here Tomorrow,along with a set of MC front struts and figured let me kill two birds with one stone while in the process.lol.  Z

The Motorcraft front Struts can be found below for my 13 PP-SHO.  Z  :)

MOTORCRAFT AST12321 {#AST12256, DG1Z18124U} Front Left; w/ Black Calipers; w/o Painted Calipers
   
$54.79  
MOTORCRAFT AST12323 {#AST12257, DG1Z18124W} Front Right; w/ Black Calipers; w/o Painted Calipers
$54.79

Grand Total $113.09 which includes shipping for the Struts.

http://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/ford,2013,taurus,3.5l+v6+turbocharged,1503823,suspension,strut,7584 (http://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/ford,2013,taurus,3.5l+v6+turbocharged,1503823,suspension,strut,7584)

13+NON-PP SHO Front Struts Part numbers can be found below.

MOTORCRAFT AST12329 {#AST12250, DG1Z18124E, DG1Z18124Y}
Front Left; w/ Painted Calipers
$52.99

MOTORCRAFT AST12328 {#AST12251, DG1Z18124F, DG1Z18124X}
Front Right; w/ Painted Calipers
$54.89

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I figured let me order the rear shocks also and do them in one shot.  Z  :)

REAR SHOCKS PART NUMBERS BELOW


13+PP SHO  X2 same part number DG1Z18125F
http://www.rockauto.com (http://www.rockauto.com) has the best price of $135.89 with promo-code applied and shipping included.

13+NON-PP X2 same part number.  DG1Z18125C
$133.89


http://www.rockauto.com (http://www.rockauto.com) $65.79

https://parts.levittownfordparts.com- (//https://)$76.16   

http://www.fordparts.com- (//http://)  $120.42

http://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/ford,2013,taurus,3.5l+v6+turbocharged,1503823,suspension,shock+absorber,7556 (http://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/ford,2013,taurus,3.5l+v6+turbocharged,1503823,suspension,shock+absorber,7556)

Where in NY are you? How you liking the springs after all this time

@-18 SHO I'm loving the ride from A-Z thus far with the only exception would be roads that have a slight dip @ highway speeds which it hits hard due to the stiffer suspension but nothing Good comes without compromise.  Z   :)

I think I was the first to mention that you need to give the supension a few hundred miles to settle,break in period for good measures...
BTW I'm in LI N.Y closer to N.J...

Quote from: ZSHO on December 08, 2018, 07:27:02 AM
@-18 SHO I'm loving the ride from A-Z thus far with the only exception would be roads that have a slight dip @ highway speeds which it hits hard due to the stiffer suspension but nothing Good comes without compromise.  Z   :)
BTW I'm in LI N.Y closer to N.J...

Awesome man thanks for the update i eventually want a better suspension for 60 ft times and some handling but its my DD so ive gotta consider that as well. Your in Rockland then im not too far in Putnam. Good luck with everything man

Quote from: 18SHO on December 08, 2018, 08:17:09 AM

Quote from: ZSHO on December 08, 2018, 07:27:02 AM
@-18 SHO I'm loving the ride from A-Z thus far with the only exception would be roads that have a slight dip @ highway speeds which it hits hard due to the stiffer suspension but nothing Good comes without compromise.  Z   :)
BTW I'm in S.I N.Y closer to N.J...

Awesome man thanks for the update i eventually want a better suspension for 60 ft times and some handling but its my DD so ive gotta consider that as well. Your in Rockland then im not too far in Putnam. Good luck with everything man

Thanks & NP Bud and Welcome aboard! R U tuned! Mods! What tracks do you attend! Pics please.  Z  :)

Quote from: ZSHO on December 08, 2018, 10:16:09 AM

Quote from: 18SHO on December 08, 2018, 08:17:09 AM

Quote from: ZSHO on December 08, 2018, 07:27:02 AM
@-18 SHO I'm loving the ride from A-Z thus far with the only exception would be roads that have a slight dip @ highway speeds which it hits hard due to the stiffer suspension but nothing Good comes without compromise.  Z   :)
BTW I'm in S.I N.Y closer to N.J...

Awesome man thanks for the update i eventually want a better suspension for 60 ft times and some handling but its my DD so ive gotta consider that as well. Your in Rockland then im not too far in Putnam. Good luck with everything man

Thanks & NP Bud and Welcome aboard! R U tuned! Mods! What tracks do you attend! Pics please.  Z  :)

Going to be tuned soon by a local reputable tuner , ill be running 3bar and k&n drop in to start with some e30 or 100 octane . Ill be attending most likely lebanon valley dragway a lot . Where do you go to the strip?

I have never been to Lebanon valley but we might cross paths one day! I have been to Milan and Cecil county many times and my last outing with a Trap speed of almost 116 mph below!
The H&R springs will definitely help in that department as it netted me a best 1.752 60' time.

Best of luck with the tuning and mods. Z

https://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,9567.0.html (https://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,9567.0.html)

Quote from: ZSHO on December 09, 2018, 08:54:21 AM
I have never been to Lebanon valley but we might cross paths one day! I have been to Milan and Cecil county many times and my last outing with a Trap speed of almost 116 mph below!
The H&R springs will definitely help in that department as it netted me a best 1.752 60' time.

Best of luck with the tuning and mods. Z

https://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,9567.0.html (https://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,9567.0.html)

Wow you take the drives for sure.. id think at least island dragway which is closest to you. Hope we do cross paths id love to check that car out... hell of a MPH and 60ft

I guess many of you know I love the H&R Springs setup and only gripe is roads that have a dip @ highway speeds you will most certainly feel the impact due to the overall stiffer suspension but if your on the fence go for it IMHO. Z   :)

I absolutely LOVE the way the car sits now.  Remember though, that you ARE removing 1.5 inches of travel off the top (since the bottom of travel is unchangeable).  Just remember that it will be a stiffer ride, and you MUST watch for higher curbs when parking and opening doors.

...did I mention how much I love her stance now?  In fact my family sometimes catches me checking her out as we're walking away or towards, the car.

Quote from: ZSHO on August 30, 2018, 10:19:50 AM
FYI- For anyone looking for the rear Camber bolts,found a sweet deal. Z  :)
Specialty  Products Company 81280 EZ Cam XR 16mm Adjuster Bolt - Pair.  Z

$21.98 - Pair

https://www.amazon.com/Specialty-Products-Company-81280-Adjuster/dp/B000CB3QUI?keywords=specialty+products+81280&qid=1535638576&sr=8-1-fkmrnull&ref=mp_s_a_1_fkmrnull_1 (https://www.amazon.com/Specialty-Products-Company-81280-Adjuster/dp/B000CB3QUI?keywords=specialty+products+81280&qid=1535638576&sr=8-1-fkmrnull&ref=mp_s_a_1_fkmrnull_1)

When I order these do I need just the one pair or should I order two ? One pair per side? I'm pulling the trigger on H&R springs in the upcoming week or two!

Quote from: 18SHO on March 22, 2019, 02:23:07 PM

Quote from: ZSHO on August 30, 2018, 10:19:50 AM
FYI- For anyone looking for the rear Camber bolts,found a sweet deal. Z  :)
Specialty  Products Company 81280 EZ Cam XR 16mm Adjuster Bolt - Pair.  Z

$21.98 - Pair

https://www.amazon.com/Specialty-Products-Company-81280-Adjuster/dp/B000CB3QUI?keywords=specialty+products+81280&qid=1535638576&sr=8-1-fkmrnull&ref=mp_s_a_1_fkmrnull_1 (https://www.amazon.com/Specialty-Products-Company-81280-Adjuster/dp/B000CB3QUI?keywords=specialty+products+81280&qid=1535638576&sr=8-1-fkmrnull&ref=mp_s_a_1_fkmrnull_1)

When I order these do I need just the one pair or should I order two ? One pair per side? I'm pulling the trigger on H&R springs in the upcoming week or two!

You can use the ones you posted, I did.  However, these are the revised ones right here that I will be replacing the 81280 with.

https://www.amazon.com/Specialty-Products-84130-LINCOLN-CAMBER/dp/B01IPLDDGS/ref=sr_1_fkmrnull_1?keywords=specialty+products+84130&qid=1553280207&s=gateway&sr=8-1-fkmrnull (https://www.amazon.com/Specialty-Products-84130-LINCOLN-CAMBER/dp/B01IPLDDGS/ref=sr_1_fkmrnull_1?keywords=specialty+products+84130&qid=1553280207&s=gateway&sr=8-1-fkmrnull)

You will need to buy 2 of them, they do not come in pairs.

So question, not sure if it was covered in this thread or not (10 pages?). I have a 2013 nonPP and need to do a full setup (creaks and leaks). I was considering doing coilovers but think HR will be good enough as I want easy setup and not have to mess with adjusting stuff. I'm just concerned about using nonPP innards on the springs as I read in the first few pages it could be a wavy ride. So is it time to upgrade to PP? Can I do that?


1) Can you put PP shocks/struts/mounts on a nonPP car?
2) Is the original parts list still accurate?
3) Do you need a camber kit? (Is that what the bolts people are mentioning above?)


Sorry, just trying to get a clean answer before I make an order. I've been across 3 sites and have read multiple different answers, looking for a definitive.


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Quote from: malfuncion on April 08, 2019, 10:45:12 AM
So question, not sure if it was covered in this thread or not (10 pages?). I have a 2013 nonPP and need to do a full setup (creaks and leaks). I was considering doing coilovers but think HR will be good enough as I want easy setup and not have to mess with adjusting stuff. I'm just concerned about using nonPP innards on the springs as I read in the first few pages it could be a wavy ride. So is it time to upgrade to PP? Can I do that?


1) Can you put PP shocks/struts/mounts on a nonPP car? I can't see why not.  The car will ride alot stiffer FYI.
2) Is the original parts list still accurate? Yes
3) Do you need a camber kit? (Is that what the bolts people are mentioning above?)  Use the bolts that I posted in my post. Directly above.


Sorry, just trying to get a clean answer before I make an order. I've been across 3 sites and have read multiple different answers, looking for a definitive.


-edited for complete thoughts-

Answers in bold above.

Quote from: SM105K on April 08, 2019, 11:06:58 AM

Quote from: malfuncion on April 08, 2019, 10:45:12 AM
So question, not sure if it was covered in this thread or not (10 pages?). I have a 2013 nonPP and need to do a full setup (creaks and leaks). I was considering doing coilovers but think HR will be good enough as I want easy setup and not have to mess with adjusting stuff. I'm just concerned about using nonPP innards on the springs as I read in the first few pages it could be a wavy ride. So is it time to upgrade to PP? Can I do that?


1) Can you put PP shocks/struts/mounts on a nonPP car? I can't see why not.  The car will ride alot stiffer FYI.
2) Is the original parts list still accurate? Yes
3) Do you need a camber kit? (Is that what the bolts people are mentioning above?)  Use the bolts that I posted in my post. Directly above.


Sorry, just trying to get a clean answer before I make an order. I've been across 3 sites and have read multiple different answers, looking for a definitive.


-edited for complete thoughts-

Answers in bold above.

Thanks for the quick reply. This is what I had expected but just wanted some feedback. I'm good with it stiffening as I really want to tighten it up. After my motor swap(rebuild) and tune reload I have a major problem with the rear squatting and the front losing traction. Lots of slop in there that needs cleaned up.


Do you mind me asking what you paid after it was all said and done? I prepped the budget committee with the expense this past weekend of being around $1k after it was all said and done. Sure would be nice to come in below...

Quote from: malfuncion on April 08, 2019, 11:20:11 AM

Quote from: SM105K on April 08, 2019, 11:06:58 AM

Quote from: malfuncion on April 08, 2019, 10:45:12 AM
So question, not sure if it was covered in this thread or not (10 pages?). I have a 2013 nonPP and need to do a full setup (creaks and leaks). I was considering doing coilovers but think HR will be good enough as I want easy setup and not have to mess with adjusting stuff. I'm just concerned about using nonPP innards on the springs as I read in the first few pages it could be a wavy ride. So is it time to upgrade to PP? Can I do that?


1) Can you put PP shocks/struts/mounts on a nonPP car? I can't see why not.  The car will ride alot stiffer FYI.
2) Is the original parts list still accurate? Yes
3) Do you need a camber kit? (Is that what the bolts people are mentioning above?)  Use the bolts that I posted in my post. Directly above.


Sorry, just trying to get a clean answer before I make an order. I've been across 3 sites and have read multiple different answers, looking for a definitive.


-edited for complete thoughts-

Answers in bold above.

Thanks for the quick reply. This is what I had expected but just wanted some feedback. I'm good with it stiffening as I really want to tighten it up. After my motor swap(rebuild) and tune reload I have a major problem with the rear squatting and the front losing traction. Lots of slop in there that needs cleaned up.


Do you mind me asking what you paid after it was all said and done? I prepped the budget committee with the expense this past weekend of being around $1k after it was all said and done. Sure would be nice to come in below...

I didn't buy new struts and I did all of the labor myself (minus the spring swap on the struts themselves).

I documented my whole swap here:

https://shoforum.com/index.php?threads/couple-of-goals.138235/page-7

Polski had NO issues with his 13-NON-PP-SHO IIRC!
He swapped out his NON-PP Struts and Shocks components for the PP Version without incident. 
It's somewhere within the 10 pages.Lol. Z

Thank you both for the replies. I think I'm going to give it a whirl, doesn't look to be too bad. I don't have a Pepboys close enough to me and my local firestone won't touch any part they don't order. Not sure who I'll try for the front springs, guess I'll be calling around.


Total cost with some coupon codes are coming in around $650 range for all the parts, then add in the minor labor cost for fronts and alignment. Looking around $850 on the high side, which isn't that bad. 

Quote from: ZSHO on September 15, 2017, 05:25:17 PM

Quote from: StealBlueSho on September 15, 2017, 05:08:37 PM

Sexy!!!!!!!!!!! Looking good Z!! Did the end up using the camber bolts?


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Thanks man!!I know many have gone without them but in my case the rear camber bolts were definitely warranted.  Z

Did these work? #81280 because spc website is giving me a different part number for my 2013. They are saying #84130. Which are a good bit more expensive.


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Quote from: f8tlSHO on June 04, 2019, 08:22:51 AM

Quote from: ZSHO on September 15, 2017, 05:25:17 PM

Quote from: StealBlueSho on September 15, 2017, 05:08:37 PM

Sexy!!!!!!!!!!! Looking good Z!! Did the end up using the camber bolts?


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Thanks man!!I know many have gone without them but in my case the rear camber bolts were definitely warranted.  Z

Did these work? #81280 because spc website is giving me a different part number for my 2013. They are saying #84130. Which are a good bit more expensive.


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Just saw my answer... thanks


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