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Title: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: mattr66 on January 10, 2018, 02:28:21 PM
Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on January 10, 2018, 02:02:07 PM
Quote from: mattr66 on January 10, 2018, 12:48:50 PM
Since you will be able to run more pressure, octane tolerence will be better.
Right, but will it be 2 grand better?

Of course that will be a personal choice but I can see the possibility of buyers remorse.

Once you get past 15-16 psi on the tiny turbos IAT2 is going to rear its head and 93 doesn't tolerate high intake temps.
Just get my intercooler when they are finally released

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Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: ddlopes on January 10, 2018, 03:34:34 PM
What's the release date for the intercooler? And what's the price?
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: ZSHO on January 10, 2018, 03:54:32 PM
Quote from: ddlopes on January 10, 2018, 03:34:34 PM
What's the release date for the intercooler? And what's the price?
There is unfortunately no unforeseen release date in the horizon for the intercooler on this platform IIRC!  Z
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: FoMoCoSHO on January 10, 2018, 03:56:20 PM
Quote from: mattr66 on January 10, 2018, 02:28:21 PM
Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on January 10, 2018, 02:02:07 PM
Quote from: mattr66 on January 10, 2018, 12:48:50 PM
Since you will be able to run more pressure, octane tolerence will be better.
Right, but will it be 2 grand better?

Of course that will be a personal choice but I can see the possibility of buyers remorse.

Once you get past 15-16 psi on the tiny turbos IAT2 is going to rear its head and 93 doesn't tolerate high intake temps.
Just get my intercooler when they are finally released

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I just might do that!



Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: mattr66 on January 10, 2018, 04:25:50 PM
Quote from: ZSHO on January 10, 2018, 03:54:32 PM
Quote from: ddlopes on January 10, 2018, 03:34:34 PM
What's the release date for the intercooler? And what's the price?
There is unfortunately no unforeseen release date in the horizon for the intercooler on this platform IIRC!  Z
Says who?

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Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: ZSHO on January 10, 2018, 04:31:24 PM
Quote from: mattr66 on January 10, 2018, 04:25:50 PM
Quote from: ZSHO on January 10, 2018, 03:54:32 PM
Quote from: ddlopes on January 10, 2018, 03:34:34 PM
What's the release date for the intercooler? And what's the price?
There is unfortunately no unforeseen intercooler upgrade on this platform IIRC!  Z
Says who?

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There is no intercooler upgrade AFAIK!  Z
Mattr66Due setup an Intro @ your earliest convenience.  TIA.  Z
https://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/board,14.0.html (https://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/board,14.0.html)
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: SHOdded on January 10, 2018, 05:17:35 PM
matt, please lay down some facts about the custom intercooler so we can see what you are referring to.  Right now, we only see a black box to take a poke at :)
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: FoMoCoSHO on January 10, 2018, 05:19:23 PM
Z, im pretty sure Mattr66 is the famous (or infamous?) Matt of Gearhead performance.

Intercoolers, upgraded turbos, and I've heard from a reputable source  tuning skills second to none.





Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: mattr66 on January 10, 2018, 06:12:45 PM
Quote from: SHOdded on January 10, 2018, 05:17:35 PM
matt, please lay down some facts about the custom intercooler so we can see what you are referring to.  Right now, we only see a black box to take a poke at :)
It is a drop in had some issues of fitment on the first prototype.  Keeps IAT2 within 25 degrees of ambient at WOT under most conditions (excluding extreme heat soak).  The first prototype has a flow issue (still made 460hp to the wheels) that I corrected and am waiting for the manufacturer to correct the casting of the outlet tank.  I'm confident the next version will fit better and have 2 psi less drop that this one that is already waaaaaay better than the stock intercoler.

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Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: SHOdded on January 10, 2018, 06:14:27 PM
Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on January 10, 2018, 05:19:23 PM
Z, im pretty sure Mattr66 is the famous (or infamous?) Matt of Gearhead performance.

Intercoolers, upgraded turbos, and I've heard from a reputable source  tuning skills second to none.
All the more reason for a proper intro :)
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: mattr66 on January 10, 2018, 06:18:53 PM
Quote from: mattr66 on January 10, 2018, 06:12:45 PM
Quote from: SHOdded on January 10, 2018, 05:17:35 PM
matt, please lay down some facts about the custom intercooler so we can see what you are referring to.  Right now, we only see a black box to take a poke at :)
It is a drop in had some issues of fitment on the first prototype.  Keeps IAT2 within 25 degrees of ambient at WOT under most conditions (excluding extreme heat soak).  The first prototype has a flow issue (still made 460hp to the wheels) that I corrected and am waiting for the manufacturer to correct the casting of the outlet tank.  I'm confident the next version will fit better and have 2 psi less drop that this one that is already waaaaaay better than the stock intercoler.

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Here's the latest Dyno with the intercooler and xdi pump running e30.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180110/83242d9ecf5d83c8de2d716690d6c523.jpg)

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Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: bpd1151 on January 10, 2018, 06:23:42 PM
Probably should divide up the topic before it derails any further from the OP's thread title.

Not doing so, and continuing on with an alleged intercooler discussion will for sure damn it to obscurity/oblivion and not serve either interest properly.

Especially if/when the time comes that the product is actually released.

Just a friendly suggestion.

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Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: ddlopes on January 11, 2018, 07:43:00 AM
Do you have any pics?
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: ddlopes on January 11, 2018, 07:51:39 AM
Also what other mods were done to achieve 460 whp?
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: DerricksSho on January 11, 2018, 01:37:52 PM
mattr66 nice numbers congrats..
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: J-Will on January 12, 2018, 07:53:24 PM
Spoke to Matt today about my tune... I'm excited for what he's bringing to market.

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Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: mattr66 on January 24, 2018, 01:48:29 PM
Hey guys, I don't frequent this forum very often but the car in question has the prototype intercooler and xdi35 pump running on e30.  Factory turbos are maxed for the most part.  The drop in intercooler should retail around 650 plus shipping.
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: djxfactor on January 24, 2018, 03:37:58 PM
Quote from: mattr66 on January 24, 2018, 01:48:29 PM
Hey guys, I don't frequent this forum very often but the car in question has the prototype intercooler and xdi35 pump running on e30.  Factory turbos are maxed for the most part.  The drop in intercooler should retail around 650 plus shipping.

I think you're gonna have some customers lining up at that price point, myself included!
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: J-Will on January 24, 2018, 04:32:18 PM
Quote from: mattr66 on January 24, 2018, 01:48:29 PM
Hey guys, I don't frequent this forum very often but the car in question has the prototype intercooler and xdi35 pump running on e30.  Factory turbos are maxed for the most part.  The drop in intercooler should retail around 650 plus shipping.

1) are you selling the pump?
2) you need your logo splashed on the xdi pump page :)
3) if the 35 just about maxes out the turbo, is there headroom in the 35 for the larger turbos?  Or do you recommend the 60 for anyone planning to get larger turbos?
4) at $650 sounds like a heck of a deal for a drop in intercooler that performs ~50% better than stock (IIRC- prelim number show IAT within 30 degrees using the prototype versus 60+ on stock)
5) LMK when you're in the NoVA area, we need to get beers
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: mattr66 on January 27, 2018, 04:34:33 PM
Quote from: J-Will on January 24, 2018, 04:32:18 PM
Quote from: mattr66 on January 24, 2018, 01:48:29 PM
Hey guys, I don't frequent this forum very often but the car in question has the prototype intercooler and xdi35 pump running on e30.  Factory turbos are maxed for the most part.  The drop in intercooler should retail around 650 plus shipping.

1) are you selling the pump?
2) you need your logo splashed on the xdi pump page :)
3) if the 35 just about maxes out the turbo, is there headroom in the 35 for the larger turbos?  Or do you recommend the 60 for anyone planning to get larger turbos?
4) at $650 sounds like a heck of a deal for a drop in intercooler that performs ~50% better than stock (IIRC- prelim number show IAT within 30 degrees using the prototype versus 60+ on stock)
5) LMK when you're in the NoVA area, we need to get beers
heck more like +80 with the stock intercooler..... I don't travel like I used to, so not getting near VA any time soon that I can think of.  I will be testing larger turbos next.. I'm at about 80% of the full pump capacity right now.
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: ZSHO on January 27, 2018, 04:53:13 PM
Group Buy perhaps! Z  :)
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: GIGANTORE on January 28, 2018, 07:33:19 PM
This thread needs more info and pics
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: FoMoCoSHO on January 30, 2018, 11:25:08 PM
So when you say drop in I assume replacing the stocker?

Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: autobahn terror on January 31, 2018, 03:40:25 AM
I am definitely down for the group buy option if that ever materializes
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: StealBlueSho on January 31, 2018, 07:47:26 AM
I got money..... :-)


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Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: Colorado-SHOBro on January 31, 2018, 11:21:50 AM
Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on January 30, 2018, 11:25:08 PM
So when you say drop in I assume replacing the stocker?
matts comment regarding the IC on face book. .

"It is stock size end tanks with the core going all the way to the end of the tank and is bar and plate instead of tube and fin.
Core is gaining 40% more volume but close to 120% more surface area. "
direct drop in place of stock intercooler


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Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: bpd1151 on January 31, 2018, 12:13:54 PM
I would be in for a group buy as well, based upon the improved efficiency and apparent ease of installation/stock location.

Advise when deposits are being taken.

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Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: irondoor19 on January 31, 2018, 01:36:52 PM
Group Buy, Group Buy, Group Buy... Count Me In....
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: jbrown9999 on January 31, 2018, 04:26:07 PM
I'm in!  Finished my alimony this year.  Now the fun begins!!
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: Macgyver on January 31, 2018, 05:03:06 PM
Quote from: jbrown9999 on January 31, 2018, 04:26:07 PM
I'm in!  Finished my alimony this year.  Now the fun begins!!

All that Alimony being wasted every year on Shoes and womens cloths and not car parts. Travesty !!!
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: jbrown9999 on January 31, 2018, 06:04:00 PM
Well, I still have child support but at least I'm not paying her any longer to not live in my house!  It was worth every penny though!!
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: autobahn terror on February 01, 2018, 02:10:22 PM
That is why you need to practice what my Man Leon Preaches,

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/65/7d/55/657d559f48b19fb48eddf7637423b48e.jpg)
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: J-Will on February 01, 2018, 02:25:30 PM
does he adopt Natalie Portman?
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: autobahn terror on February 01, 2018, 02:30:53 PM
He did, and then he died, because he didnt follow the rules...
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: StealBlueSho on February 01, 2018, 06:34:18 PM
Great movie...


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Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: 5ohSHO on February 01, 2018, 07:41:23 PM
I'd be down for one as well.
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: Agentlongwood on February 01, 2018, 09:18:31 PM
Well if all those numbers prove accurate, and the price stays the same, I would most likely be buying one as well.  Kind of mind blowing that the gains are so substantial just by switching to bar-and-plate, with the core going all the way to the end tanks.  If that's the case, couldn't you buy a bar-and-plate core in the proper dimensions.  Then get some end tanks from a junk yard and have them attached to the new core.  Or is this way more complicated than I'm making it sound? 
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: FoMoCoSHO on February 01, 2018, 09:21:11 PM
Quote from: Agentlongwood on February 01, 2018, 09:18:31 PM
Well if all those numbers prove accurate, and the price stays the same, I would most likely be buying one as well.  Kind of mind blowing that the gains are so substantial just by switching to bar-and-plate, with the core going all the way to the end tanks.  If that's the case, couldn't you buy a bar-and-plate core in the proper dimensions.  Then get some end tanks from a junk yard and have them attached to the new core.  Or is this way more complicated than I'm making it sound?
To me that sounds much more complicated than paypalling Matt $650 (Or less on group buy? hint, hint)
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: Agentlongwood on February 01, 2018, 10:20:52 PM
Quote
To me that sounds much more complicated than paypalling Matt $650 (Or less on group buy? hint, hint)

haha very true.  But I do wonder how much the cost would be to do it on your own... Anyone know the dimensions of the factory intercooler?  I want to find out how much a properly sized bar-and-plate core would cost.
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: DerricksSho on February 02, 2018, 03:52:45 AM
Im definitely signed up for one and a tune as soon as your ready!!
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: ZSHO on February 02, 2018, 09:23:04 AM
I'm not quite sure if this was covered but assuming you will need an adjusted Tune to benefit the larger volume CAC(Intercooler) ?  Z
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: gtmorgan23 on February 02, 2018, 09:23:40 AM
yep gonna be getting my money too.
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: ZSHO on February 02, 2018, 09:25:10 AM
Quote from: Agentlongwood on February 01, 2018, 10:20:52 PM
Quote
To me that sounds much more complicated than paypalling Matt $650 (Or less on group buy? hint, hint)

haha very true.  But I do wonder how much the cost would be to do it on your own... Anyone know the dimensions of the factory intercooler?  I want to find out how much a properly sized bar-and-plate core would cost.
This should be the OE- CAC- Dimensions!  Z
(https://i.imgur.com/n202tMKh.jpg)
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: FearlessAZ on February 02, 2018, 12:16:43 PM
I would be in for a group buy as soon as the tax refund comes
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: irondoor19 on February 02, 2018, 12:36:01 PM
Not trying to burst the Bubble, but the install is a PIA, as we did this already
have to remove the front Bumper Cover, the AC Condenser, and lines,
the Radiator, and then the intercooler, and install the new one,
SO A/C RECHARGE, Radiator fluid, ETC, just being realistic, I AM STILL IN
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: Colorado-SHOBro on February 03, 2018, 12:12:28 AM
i have a stock intercooler piece i can take measurements of if requested.


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Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: mattr66 on March 05, 2018, 11:34:17 PM
I still have not received my second (improved) prototype..... It should be worth the wait and have another 2 psi of boost available on the stock turbos compared to V1 which already made 460Hp to the tires.
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: mattr66 on March 05, 2018, 11:36:54 PM
Quote from: Agentlongwood on February 01, 2018, 09:18:31 PM
Well if all those numbers prove accurate, and the price stays the same, I would most likely be buying one as well.  Kind of mind blowing that the gains are so substantial just by switching to bar-and-plate, with the core going all the way to the end tanks.  If that's the case, couldn't you buy a bar-and-plate core in the proper dimensions.  Then get some end tanks from a junk yard and have them attached to the new core.  Or is this way more complicated than I'm making it sound?
Factory end tanks are plastic :(  V1 of the intercooler use an aftermarket intercooler and just replaced the core with a higher flowing one with more surface area... V2 has newly designed end tanks to flow more air and have a flange like stock for ease of installation.
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: djxfactor on March 06, 2018, 08:27:18 AM
Quote from: mattr66 on March 05, 2018, 11:36:54 PM
Quote from: Agentlongwood on February 01, 2018, 09:18:31 PM
Well if all those numbers prove accurate, and the price stays the same, I would most likely be buying one as well.  Kind of mind blowing that the gains are so substantial just by switching to bar-and-plate, with the core going all the way to the end tanks.  If that's the case, couldn't you buy a bar-and-plate core in the proper dimensions.  Then get some end tanks from a junk yard and have them attached to the new core.  Or is this way more complicated than I'm making it sound?
Factory end tanks are plastic :(  V1 of the intercooler use an aftermarket intercooler and just replaced the core with a higher flowing one with more surface area... V2 has newly designed end tanks to flow more air and have a flange like stock for ease of installation.

I'm waiting with baited breath for this to happen!!!
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: Macgyver on March 06, 2018, 09:38:20 PM
So if you had a 93 tune. 12.5 1/4 mile time HP area. What gains and such would you expect from this IC?
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: mattr66 on June 26, 2018, 10:46:43 AM
depends on what IAT2 was doing down the track.... if you were at 175-180 after the 1/8th mile you would have at 2-3 tenths and 3-4 mph of mph gain after the intercooler.
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: SHOdded on June 26, 2018, 12:03:22 PM
Any updates as to when the intercooler will be released, Matt?
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: J-Will on June 26, 2018, 12:26:29 PM
Quote from: SHOdded on June 26, 2018, 12:03:22 PM
Any updates as to when the intercooler will be released, Matt?
We were all thinking it

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Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: bamsho on June 26, 2018, 12:53:38 PM
Holy crap, who is seeing IAT2 temps that high.  I've never seen temps that high in either the 2012 and 2013 cars.  That is even before running meth.
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: TopherSho on June 26, 2018, 12:58:26 PM
That is exceptionally warm after a run.  I have seen mine hit 170 in the lane,  but at the end of a run I was normally at 110/120 on a 105f day with 125f pavement temps according to the laser
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: Macgyver on June 26, 2018, 08:08:53 PM
Quote from: Macgyver on March 06, 2018, 09:38:20 PM
So if you had a 93 tune. 12.5 1/4 mile time HP area. What gains and such would you expect from this IC?

I never said anything about IATs. I just asked a simple question. What will this add to the performance of a 12.5 second car.
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: Agentlongwood on June 26, 2018, 08:26:07 PM
Quote from: Macgyver on June 26, 2018, 08:08:53 PM
Quote from: Macgyver on March 06, 2018, 09:38:20 PM
So if you had a 93 tune. 12.5 1/4 mile time HP area. What gains and such would you expect from this IC?

I never said anything about IATs. I just asked a simple question. What will this add to the performance of a 12.5 second car.

They heard ya.  They were just letting you know that it's not a simple "X" amount of performance to be gained.  How much you gain depends on a few factors, and one of them is Intake Air Temp.  If you are running 12.5 and your IATs are super low, then an intercooler may not add much.  If you're running 12.5 with very high IATs then an improved intercooler will add much more performance.  So it depends on your individual case.  If you have some data-logs or even just a few data points handy, I'm sure the guys can give you a much more specific expectation with this intercooler.
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: Macgyver on June 26, 2018, 10:56:56 PM
Now that makes sense. Thanks.
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: TopherSho on June 27, 2018, 06:53:47 PM
Yup on the source temp being relevant to gains. 

Idle the car on black pavement for 5 minutes then launch hard from 1800-2000 rpm a d run from 0-110 while data logging spark1 spark2 knock, iat2, speed, rpm and time.. we can make a pretty good guess from there.
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: TopherSho on August 21, 2018, 06:19:39 PM
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:chay: :07: :devil: WHY no pictureZ !?!?!?   :gathering: :gathering:  :bunny: :knight: :minigunner:
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Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: 4sfed on August 21, 2018, 10:56:06 PM
Info please?  Status?  Any news?  Updates?  ...please?
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: jbrown9999 on August 24, 2018, 08:54:03 PM
Hello?  Any ETA or even info about possible roadblocks you ran into?
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: bpd1151 on August 24, 2018, 08:57:54 PM
8 months + w/o any updates whatsoever.

That can't be a good sign.
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: Gray Brick on August 25, 2018, 01:33:52 AM
Go air to water...
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: StealBlueSho on August 25, 2018, 01:02:21 PM
Matt Robinson at Gearhead said supplier issues have caused a delay. The prototype works, it's a drop in to the OEM.

The first batch for people who prepaid is supposed to be ready by end of this month.


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Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: bpd1151 on August 25, 2018, 01:34:25 PM


Quote from: StealBlueSho on August 25, 2018, 01:02:21 PMThe first batch for people who prepaid is supposed to be ready by end of this month.

Oooooooook

Well that's good. :thumb:

However, where was this "pre-pay" posted at? Cuz I see none of it contained here.

I, and likely quite a few others, would've plopped down a deposit as well to secure one.

***side note***

Congrats on your certification achievements there BJ / SBS. Bravo my friend. Well done.
Title: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: StealBlueSho on August 25, 2018, 01:35:11 PM
Quote from: bpd1151 on August 25, 2018, 01:34:25 PM


Quote from: StealBlueSho on August 25, 2018, 01:02:21 PMThe first batch for people who prepaid is supposed to be ready by end of this month.

Oooooooook

Well that's good. :thumb:

However, where was this "pre-pay" posted at? Cuz I see none of it contained here.

I, and likely quite a few others, would've plopped down a deposit as well to secure one.

***side note***

Congrats on your certification achievements there BJ / SBS. Bravo my friend. Well done.

It was done on the book of face. And thanks! Certs keep options open :-)


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Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: bpd1151 on August 25, 2018, 01:39:27 PM
Well as you know, there are some of us who don't do FB. So he's already limiting his potential pool/base of customers.

Please LMK how I can secure one, as well as any others that may be on the forums exclusively.

"End of this month" availability would've factored well into/with my other installs occurring around same time frame.

Damnit.
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: StealBlueSho on August 25, 2018, 02:43:16 PM
Quote from: bpd1151 on August 25, 2018, 01:39:27 PM
Well as you know, there are some of us who don't do FB. So he's already limiting his potential pool/base of customers.

Please LMK how I can secure one, as well as any others that may be on the forums exclusively.

"End of this month" availability would've factored well into/with my other installs occurring around same time frame.

Damnit.

He has an account here... he just has his hands full with the FB crowds knocking down his doors...




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Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: irondoor19 on August 25, 2018, 02:46:13 PM
Quote from: Gray Brick on August 25, 2018, 01:33:52 AM
Go air to water...

AND SHOW US were to stick it PLEASE
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: StealBlueSho on August 25, 2018, 03:21:22 PM
Quote from: irondoor19 on August 25, 2018, 02:46:13 PM
Quote from: Gray Brick on August 25, 2018, 01:33:52 AM
Go air to water...

AND SHOW US were to stick it PLEASE

Hey Griswold, where do you think you're going to put an intercooler that big?!

Couldn't help myself...


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Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: ToMang07 on August 25, 2018, 03:44:45 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSho on August 25, 2018, 03:21:22 PM
Quote from: irondoor19 on August 25, 2018, 02:46:13 PM
Quote from: Gray Brick on August 25, 2018, 01:33:52 AM
Go air to water...

AND SHOW US were to stick it PLEASE

Hey Griswold, where do you think you're going to put an intercooler that big?!

Couldn't help myself...


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Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: StealBlueSho on August 25, 2018, 04:16:43 PM
Quote from: bpd1151 on August 25, 2018, 01:39:27 PM
Well as you know, there are some of us who don't do FB. So he's already limiting his potential pool/base of customers.

Please LMK how I can secure one, as well as any others that may be on the forums exclusively.

"End of this month" availability would've factored well into/with my other installs occurring around same time frame.

Damnit.

Just pinged Matt... there was not a preorder available.. still waiting on the first batch however to be delivered....

I was mistaken on that information.


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Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: EcoPowerParts on August 25, 2018, 09:00:24 PM
Quote from: irondoor19 on August 25, 2018, 02:46:13 PM
Quote from: Gray Brick on August 25, 2018, 01:33:52 AM
Go air to water...

AND SHOW US were to stick it PLEASE
That's easy :)
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: irondoor19 on August 27, 2018, 11:03:58 AM
Quote from: EcoPowerParts on August 25, 2018, 09:00:24 PM
Quote from: irondoor19 on August 25, 2018, 02:46:13 PM
Quote from: Gray Brick on August 25, 2018, 01:33:52 AM
Go air to water...

AND SHOW US were to stick it PLEASE
That's easy :)

OK OK OK:
I mean under the Hood, NOT much Room.....
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: 4sfed on August 27, 2018, 11:45:44 AM
Quote from: Gray Brick on August 25, 2018, 01:33:52 AM
Go air to water...

I've seen a couple of your posts stating you moving to water to air, but I've not found a post discussing or describing it.  Is there a post of your water to air IC conversion?  If there isn't one, WOULD you?  I'd LOVE to see/read it.

* edited words
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: Gray Brick on August 27, 2018, 12:14:55 PM
I wedged this water to air intercooler into my Flex.
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: lamrith on August 27, 2018, 01:24:27 PM
Quote from: Gray Brick on August 27, 2018, 12:14:55 PM
I wedged this water to air intercooler into my Flex.
:bow:

how has it been working for you?  That looks like an off the shelf unit that you then customized for dual air inlet?  What are you using for filters on the fresh air side of turbos?
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: irondoor19 on August 27, 2018, 02:31:52 PM
Quote from: lamrith on August 27, 2018, 01:24:27 PM
Quote from: Gray Brick on August 27, 2018, 12:14:55 PM
I wedged this water to air intercooler into my Flex.
:bow:

how has it been working for you?  That looks like an off the shelf unit that you then customized for dual air inlet?  What are you using for filters on the fresh air side of turbos?
all the Questions i was going to ASK, and more....
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: SHOdded on September 18, 2018, 07:09:29 PM
Common core for both turbos
Boss for drain plug
1 psi less drop across the intercooler than last prototype
Hopefully before SEMA in October
Re-tune will be required

(Source:  FB SHO Owners page)
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: bpd1151 on September 18, 2018, 07:12:08 PM
That's just plain sexy right there.

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Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: shoNoff on September 18, 2018, 07:13:39 PM
Me likey and like bdp I don't do the Facebook so updates here are great. Looks like a nice winter project for me.
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: J-Will on September 18, 2018, 08:22:52 PM
Did he mention why a new tune would be necessary?

It doesn't matter to.me, I am GH tuned, but I'm curious why it's needed.

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Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: SHOdded on September 18, 2018, 09:01:11 PM
Not specifically.  But it would be fair to assume that the signicant alteration in efficiency is the reason.  Much like adding ATP turbos would be.  Have seen this on the Edge as well.
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: Colorado-SHOBro on September 18, 2018, 11:17:23 PM
To the best of my knowledge the tune needs to compensate for the added pressure drop of the upgraded intercooler. (rumored to be ~2psi). i want to say it was a "pressure ratio" table that needed the adjustment? i know it can be tuned for 10-12 and 13+. i'm really hoping brad can work his magic with it. maybe he can provide some insight


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Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: Agentlongwood on September 19, 2018, 01:45:19 PM
Oh my cotton socks... that looks good.  SHOdded, when you say hopefully before SEMA, is that meaning that hopefully they will be on sale to the public then, or what?
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: SHOdded on September 19, 2018, 02:59:52 PM
Yes, available  for purchase by SEMA.
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: 4sfed on September 19, 2018, 03:41:07 PM
Can someone narrow what "Gearhead" we're talking about?  There a LOT of "Gearhead" on facebook...  I've even found quite a few "Gearhead Motorsports".  Can someone give an address or a show what icon to look for on facebook?
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: ToMang07 on September 19, 2018, 03:53:39 PM
Quote from: 4sfed on September 19, 2018, 03:41:07 PM
Can someone narrow what "Gearhead" we're talking about?  There a LOT of "Gearhead" on facebook...  I've even found quite a few "Gearhead Motorsports".  Can someone give an address or a show what icon to look for on facebook?
https://www.ghtuning.com/ (https://www.ghtuning.com/)
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: EcoPowerParts on September 19, 2018, 07:49:30 PM
I'll be carrying these on my website as well, also working with Matt on some other projects :)
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: jbrown9999 on September 19, 2018, 08:44:32 PM
Quote from: ZSHO on January 27, 2018, 04:53:13 PM
Group Buy perhaps! Z  :)

Bumping Group Buy!!!
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: EcoPowerParts on September 19, 2018, 09:05:07 PM
I will definitely work to do a group buy but MAP will be in play, I'll see if Matt will allow an initial setup like that.
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: ZSHO on September 19, 2018, 09:27:02 PM
Mike's Da man when it comes to "Group Buys" . Z   :)
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: nickstewartroc on September 19, 2018, 10:07:27 PM
I'd be down for a group buy
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: Mo7ammed on September 20, 2018, 02:58:12 AM
Great job Matt, the finishing is amazing not to mention the log sheet, it's like the Meth is on.


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Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: 4sfed on September 20, 2018, 07:23:07 AM
While I'd be in for a group buy, it'd be nice to eventually see some actual numbers of how this performs.  What's supposed to be the advantage of this IC?


I know normal driving (staying out of boost) in anywhere from 65 F to 95 F ambient, I normally see a temp difference of about 30 degrees between ambient and IAT2.
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: SHOdded on September 20, 2018, 08:23:36 AM
30 degrees is a LOT for staying out of boost.  Imagine what happens while IN boost.  Why spraying with meth is essential to added power.  Check out some of the datalogs posted throughout this forum.  You can see the temp rises on WOT runs for yourself.  Pretty shocking.
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: 4sfed on September 20, 2018, 09:52:12 AM
Quote from: SHOdded on September 20, 2018, 08:23:36 AM
30 degrees is a LOT for staying out of boost.  Imagine what happens while IN boost.

EXACTLY!  I'm not trying to poo-poo this...I'm VERY interested!  I'm just hoping we get to see some stats or expectations, before purchasing.



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Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: SHOdded on September 20, 2018, 11:13:57 AM
These numbers are for the 2nd gen Edge Sport with custom intercooler, at cruise etc.  But it should give you an idea what a custom IC can do.  Gearhead IC info I posted earlier.

(https://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=8760.0;attach=19032;image)

Line color:
Dark red flat: ambient temp
Dark Red: TIP KPA
Blue thin: Vehicle Speed
Blue Thick: Charge temp
(https://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=8760.0;attach=19034;image)
(https://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=8760.0;attach=19036;image)

SCT X4 readings:
(https://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=8760.0;attach=19038;image)
(https://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=8760.0;attach=19040;image)
(https://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=8760.0;attach=19042;image)
(https://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=8760.0;attach=19044;image)
Title: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: StealBlueSho on September 20, 2018, 01:45:47 PM
I have been on the phone with Matt a bit lately... this WILL require a retune for sure...I've seen the datalogs and there are changes to the wastegate to accommodate the bigger IC among other things.

I did speak to LMS about this as well, and they will require at least a couple guys to get theirs dyno tuned before they offer a remote tune for it.

I am on the list to get one when they come out. So we will see! Money is already set aside.

On a side note... this IC coupled with the bigger HPFP and E30 should practically eliminate the need for meth to get into the lower 12's consistently and safely....


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Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: SM105K on September 20, 2018, 02:59:23 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSho on September 20, 2018, 01:45:47 PM
I have been on the phone with Matt a bit lately... this WILL require a retune for sure...I've seen the datalogs and there are changes to the wastegate to accommodate the bigger IC among other things.

I did speak to LMS about this as well, and they will require at least a couple guys to get theirs dyno tuned before they offer a remote tune for it.

I am on the list to get one when they come out. So we will see! Money is already set aside.

On a side note... this IC coupled with the bigger HPFP and E30 should practically eliminate the need for meth to get into the lower 12's consistently and safely....


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That would be awesome. I am going to see what the general consensus is when people start receiving them before I go all in.
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: gtmorgan23 on September 20, 2018, 04:43:18 PM
sure hoping Matt decides to charge an install price and I can drive to him and have it installed.
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: bpd1151 on September 20, 2018, 04:49:05 PM
I'm excited too, and am on board to be within that 1st grouping of owners to receive them.

I'm sure LMS will be interested in tuning with it too, as I and BJ/SBS will be vying for dyno time respectively.

Although a group buy sounds great, and will benefit many, I don't mind being in that 1st group to pay full price. I mean after all, it's nice for Matt @ GH to recoup his costs after all.

It's also super important to reward those few vendors still left out there, that are investing in the R&D for the platform, as well as doing what they can, to propel the platform forward even further.

Getting more and more excited about this as the days keep ticking by.......

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Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: ToMang07 on September 20, 2018, 04:59:32 PM
Not gonna lie, this, a CHRA upgrade, and HPFP are all on my "wish" list.
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: SHOdded on September 20, 2018, 06:17:21 PM
Intercooler really should be first on the list.  Strengthen the core first.
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: ToMang07 on September 20, 2018, 06:31:20 PM
Quote from: SHOdded on September 20, 2018, 06:17:21 PM
Intercooler really should be first on the list.  Strengthen the core first.
They were in order! lol
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: StealBlueSho on September 20, 2018, 11:19:54 PM
Quote from: ToMang07 on September 20, 2018, 04:59:32 PM
Not gonna lie, this, a CHRA upgrade, and HPFP are all on my "wish" list.

Matt is finalizing his turbo upgrades as well...
Should be available soon. $1800 price
Tag for them... he has a guy running his prototypes in CO (DA of 6000+) running 12.5's reliably with no issues...

Sooo I have turbos and the IC money set aside... will be interesting...

As far as RD Gearhead is currently working on Turbos, IC's, Cams(part of a motor build)and some other goodies.....

I'm going to worth remotely with him through a local shop I trust to attempt to develop a solution to strengthen the PTU...

GH is really doing some cool stuff...


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Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: ToMang07 on September 20, 2018, 11:23:26 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSho on September 20, 2018, 11:19:54 PM
Quote from: ToMang07 on September 20, 2018, 04:59:32 PM
Not gonna lie, this, a CHRA upgrade, and HPFP are all on my "wish" list.

Matt is finalizing his turbo upgrades as well...
Should be available soon. $1800 price
Tag for them... he has a guy running his prototypes in CO (DA of 6000+) running 12.5's reliably with no issues...

Sooo I have turbos and the IC money set aside... will be interesting...

As far as RD Gearhead is currently working on Turbos, IC's, Cams(part of a motor build)and some other goodies.....

I'm going to worth remotely with him through a local shop I trust to attempt to develop a solution to strengthen the PTU...

GH is really doing some cool stuff...


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I've always liked Matt's work.  I'd have his tunes on my truck if I didn't already had tunes on it.

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Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: StealBlueSho on September 20, 2018, 11:25:08 PM
Quote from: ToMang07 on September 20, 2018, 11:23:26 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSho on September 20, 2018, 11:19:54 PM
Quote from: ToMang07 on September 20, 2018, 04:59:32 PM
Not gonna lie, this, a CHRA upgrade, and HPFP are all on my "wish" list.

Matt is finalizing his turbo upgrades as well...
Should be available soon. $1800 price
Tag for them... he has a guy running his prototypes in CO (DA of 6000+) running 12.5's reliably with no issues...

Sooo I have turbos and the IC money set aside... will be interesting...

As far as RD Gearhead is currently working on Turbos, IC's, Cams(part of a motor build)and some other goodies.....

I'm going to worth remotely with him through a local shop I trust to attempt to develop a solution to strengthen the PTU...

GH is really doing some cool stuff...


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I've always liked Matt's work.  I'd have his tunes on my truck if I didn't already had tunes on it.

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Only $100 bucks to switch.


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Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: ToMang07 on September 20, 2018, 11:27:56 PM


Quote from: StealBlueSho on September 20, 2018, 11:25:08 PM

Only $100 bucks to switch.


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I'm aware, but at this point the truck is pretty much been regulated to plow/work duty only,  only other time I drive it is in bad weather.


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Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: Vortech347 on September 21, 2018, 12:36:37 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSho on September 20, 2018, 11:19:54 PM
Quote from: ToMang07 on September 20, 2018, 04:59:32 PM
Not gonna lie, this, a CHRA upgrade, and HPFP are all on my "wish" list.


Tag for them... he has a guy running his prototypes in CO (DA of 6000+) running 12.5's reliably with no issues...

Sooo I have turbos and the IC money set aside... will be interesting...

As far as RD Gearhead is currently working on Turbos, IC's, Cams(part of a motor build)and some other goodies.....

I'm going to worth remotely with him through a local shop I trust to attempt to develop a solution to strengthen the PTU...

GH is really doing some cool stuff...


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That's impressive.  I've been stuck in the 13's here in Utah. Our DA is similar.  My turbo's can only sustain 12.8-13.0 psi after 4500rpm.
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: shoNoff on September 21, 2018, 02:44:22 PM
Maybe I'm blind or stupid or both but I can't find a price point anywhere on this. Have they spoken about it? I just want to have the money ready the minute they go on sale. Like Bdp I don't mind paying full price to help with the R&D costs. Any shop that's willing to help push this platform forward, I'm willing to pay a little more for their parts. I'm thinking this is my winter upgrade over doing methanol.
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: 802SHO on September 21, 2018, 04:08:25 PM
Quote from: shoNoff on September 21, 2018, 02:44:22 PM
Maybe I'm blind or stupid or both but I can't find a price point anywhere on this. Have they spoken about it? I just want to have the money ready the minute they go on sale. Like Bdp I don't mind paying full price to help with the R&D costs. Any shop that's willing to help push this platform forward, I'm willing to pay a little more for their parts. I'm thinking this is my winter upgrade over doing methanol.

Do both.  Maybe the IC first.  And I don't see a price either.  I emailed Gearhead and havent received a response, although its only been a couple days. 
The IC will be a nice way to keep everything cooler and make some more power but its not adding octane like Meth.  Do both.  And with their powers combined theyre Captain ..Plane...SHO 😆
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: StealBlueSho on September 21, 2018, 04:50:44 PM
Quote from: shoNoff on September 21, 2018, 02:44:22 PM
Maybe I'm blind or stupid or both but I can't find a price point anywhere on this. Have they spoken about it? I just want to have the money ready the minute they go on sale. Like Bdp I don't mind paying full price to help with the R&D costs. Any shop that's willing to help push this platform forward, I'm willing to pay a little more for their parts. I'm thinking this is my winter upgrade over doing methanol.

The IC and Turbos are not listed yet... they should be available soon. And prices are not finalized... Matt has said the IC will be under $800(so 799.99) and the turbos he is targeting $1800.


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Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: ZSHO on September 21, 2018, 05:20:57 PM
SBS is spot on ^^^ The IC is @ tentative $650 price point plus shipping!  Z   

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Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: SHOdded on September 21, 2018, 06:15:10 PM
Too cheap ... oops ... did I say that?
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: shoNoff on September 21, 2018, 11:32:08 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on September 21, 2018, 04:08:25 PM
Quote from: shoNoff on September 21, 2018, 02:44:22 PM
Maybe I'm blind or stupid or both but I can't find a price point anywhere on this. Have they spoken about it? I just want to have the money ready the minute they go on sale. Like Bdp I don't mind paying full price to help with the R&D costs. Any shop that's willing to help push this platform forward, I'm willing to pay a little more for their parts. I'm thinking this is my winter upgrade over doing methanol.

Do both.  Maybe the IC first.  And I don't see a price either.  I emailed Gearhead and havent received a response, although its only been a couple days. 
The IC will be a nice way to keep everything cooler and make some more power but its not adding octane like Meth.  Do both.  And with their powers combined theyre Captain ..Plane...SHO 😆

Intercooler + racegas = no meth for Tim  :thumb:
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: shoNoff on September 21, 2018, 11:32:59 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSho on September 21, 2018, 04:50:44 PM
Quote from: shoNoff on September 21, 2018, 02:44:22 PM
Maybe I'm blind or stupid or both but I can't find a price point anywhere on this. Have they spoken about it? I just want to have the money ready the minute they go on sale. Like Bdp I don't mind paying full price to help with the R&D costs. Any shop that's willing to help push this platform forward, I'm willing to pay a little more for their parts. I'm thinking this is my winter upgrade over doing methanol.

The IC and Turbos are not listed yet... they should be available soon. And prices are not finalized... Matt has said the IC will be under $800(so 799.99) and the turbos he is targeting $1800.


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I was fully expect 1k minimum but I'll take $799 all day
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: StealBlueSho on September 21, 2018, 11:40:21 PM
Earlier this year he thought $650 but now he is saying less than $800... so some where in there is what I guess..

The first batch is for a 100 of them. 50 of which he is selling directly through GH and the other 50 will be sold to distributors....

So don't be surprised if a few of the Ecoboost big name shops all of a sudden start selling IC's...

I think EPP already announced he will be offering them as well..


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Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: 802SHO on September 22, 2018, 07:24:41 AM
GearHead responded to my email, they didn't quote a price but said after SEMA they will be released and at this point there isn't a group of buyers.  I was asking to be in the first group.  I thanked them for the update as well as for investing time and money to develop new parts for the platform.
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: shoNoff on September 22, 2018, 12:15:56 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on September 22, 2018, 07:24:41 AM
GearHead responded to my email, they didn't quote a price but said after SEMA they will be released and at this point there isn't a group of buyers.  I was asking to be in the first group.  I thanked them for the update as well as for investing time and money to develop new parts for the platform.

Tell them you need 2 damn it! I want the first batch lol
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: 802SHO on September 22, 2018, 02:57:03 PM
Quote from: shoNoff on September 22, 2018, 12:15:56 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on September 22, 2018, 07:24:41 AM
GearHead responded to my email, they didn't quote a price but said after SEMA they will be released and at this point there isn't a group of buyers.  I was asking to be in the first group.  I thanked them for the update as well as for investing time and money to develop new parts for the platform.

Tell them you need 2 damn it! I want the first batch lol

😆 Right!  Like Black Friday, lets be the first ones there, start a line and camp out all day and night just to be the First ones to get our grubby hands on them
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: ZSHO on October 27, 2018, 08:14:39 AM
Its been relatively quiet and any updates! I guess we will have to wait for the verdict @ Sema!  Z
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: SHOdded on October 27, 2018, 08:37:40 AM
Eerie for sure :(  I hope big things happen at SEMA!
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: bpd1151 on October 27, 2018, 06:32:56 PM
Things are happening.

No need to fret.

Patience fella's. Patience.

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Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: SHOdded on October 27, 2018, 06:39:54 PM
Short short supply :D. Cautiously optimistic.  Umbrella at the ready.
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: Jordan on October 27, 2018, 08:21:25 PM
Should be set for shipping next month he said. He told me that he was having ten expressed to him for testing / production stuff and a total of 50 made for the first run.
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: SHOdded on October 27, 2018, 08:28:31 PM
Yay :D
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: shoNoff on October 27, 2018, 08:30:26 PM
God I not only want one I NEED one lol
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: Excalibur on October 29, 2018, 03:26:40 PM
Patiently waiting.
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: avidmotion on October 29, 2018, 05:59:07 PM
Will this do anything for us broke ass suckers, that will eat beans for a month to buy just the intercooler? I am in NJ sea level, hot in summer cold in winter.....? Also when is SEMA?
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: ZSHO on October 29, 2018, 06:59:15 PM
The Sema Convention is from 10/29-11/2  AFAIK!  Z

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1hnexmEpneVmiJCAEq6usxX148dAi58bH/view?usp=drivesdk
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: shoNoff on October 30, 2018, 03:38:08 PM
Quote from: ZSHO on October 29, 2018, 06:59:15 PM
The Sema Convention is from 10/29-11/2  AFAIK!  Z

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1hnexmEpneVmiJCAEq6usxX148dAi58bH/view?usp=drivesdk

This is true I have some co-workers there this year.
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: Gray Brick on October 30, 2018, 08:37:04 PM
I will be attending SEMA this Thursday. 

Will they be showcasing this new intercooler?
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: SHOdded on October 31, 2018, 12:31:57 AM
Supposed to be.
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: TopherSho on October 31, 2018, 11:35:52 AM
Any details on the install? im 'interested' .. but not if its a pita.
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: Vortech347 on October 31, 2018, 12:24:51 PM
Quote from: TopherSho on October 31, 2018, 11:35:52 AM
Any details on the install? im 'interested' .. but not if its a pita.

Even if it's a PITA you'll gain 30-40hp on a hot day easy...
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: StealBlueSho on October 31, 2018, 01:06:51 PM
Apparently it's not hard... there are two ways... one involved following the correct procedures and draining the coolant...

The other is removing the bumper support but doesn't require draining the coolant... but you need to break a couple spot welds.


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Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: Macgyver on October 31, 2018, 03:41:46 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSho on October 31, 2018, 01:06:51 PM
Apparently it's not hard... there are two ways... one involved following the correct procedures and draining the coolant...

The other is removing the bumper support but doesn't require draining the coolant... but you need to break a couple spot welds.


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Spot welds that can be nut and bolted back together ?
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: Agentlongwood on November 04, 2018, 09:48:58 PM
Any new word on the price/availability/etc for this sucker?  Not that I'm anxious to find out details or anything, lol.
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: SM105K on November 05, 2018, 09:55:34 AM
Quote from: Agentlongwood on November 04, 2018, 09:48:58 PM
Any new word on the price/availability/etc for this sucker?  Not that I'm anxious to find out details or anything, lol.

Everyone is dude.
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: Jordan on November 05, 2018, 12:14:07 PM
Quote from: Macgyver on October 31, 2018, 03:41:46 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSho on October 31, 2018, 01:06:51 PM
Apparently it's not hard... there are two ways... one involved following the correct procedures and draining the coolant...

The other is removing the bumper support but doesn't require draining the coolant... but you need to break a couple spot welds.


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Spot welds that can be nut and bolted back together ?

Yes the support that you break the welds on bolts right back into place with no need to reweld
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: Jordan on November 05, 2018, 12:16:37 PM
Quote from: Agentlongwood on November 04, 2018, 09:48:58 PM
Any new word on the price/availability/etc for this sucker?  Not that I'm anxious to find out details or anything, lol.

Not sure on date just yet but he said 50 units and $800 a pop. He is having me do an installation video for him and I have not heard anything yet
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: limited02 on November 05, 2018, 02:09:10 PM
Quote from: Jordan on November 05, 2018, 12:16:37 PM
Quote from: Agentlongwood on November 04, 2018, 09:48:58 PM
Any new word on the price/availability/etc for this sucker?  Not that I'm anxious to find out details or anything, lol.

Not sure on date just yet but he said 50 units and $800 a pop. He is having me do an installation video for him and I have not heard anything yet

I look forward to your results of how it all works out!  We aren't too far from each other and if this works like it's supposed to, I may bite the bullet and do it myself.  Maybe even drive out and have you help ;-)
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: Jordan on November 06, 2018, 11:24:05 AM
Haha sure but I'm just a garage diy guy lol
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: limited02 on November 07, 2018, 04:00:03 AM
Quote from: Jordan on November 06, 2018, 11:24:05 AM
Haha sure but I'm just a garage diy guy lol
Same here and I've done far more complicated swaps than this would be, but an experienced helping hand never hurts!
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: SHOdded on November 07, 2018, 06:12:06 AM
Who do we know in the area that has a lift in his garage, and a police interceptor, and auxiliary fans for cooling?  Y'all should have a meetup there and make a party out of it!  Hmmmm ... LOL.
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: ZSHO on November 07, 2018, 12:00:51 PM
FWIW the install looks pretty straight forward on the F150 platform!

Side note I guess my patience is thinning unless I hit the 11's prior to this being released!  Z  ;)

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Nf5tgjKsj345wvBayxXJTUsJWtmRDwk4/view?usp=drivesdk
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: Jordan on November 07, 2018, 04:41:41 PM
You have to pull the radiator out to put it in. Unless you want to drill a couple spot clamps/welds on the front bash bar. (IMO best way, but the poll i made for the installation video method nobody wanted to do that) The whole two piece system thing is a mega PITA because it wraps around the radiator and is wedged between the radiator and the ac condenser radiator.
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: ZSHO on November 07, 2018, 05:16:26 PM
Quote from: Jordan on November 07, 2018, 04:41:41 PM
You have to pull the radiator out to put it in. Unless you want to drill a couple spot clamps/welds on the front bash bar. (IMO best way, but the poll i made for the installation video method nobody wanted to do that) The whole two piece system thing is a mega PITA because it wraps around the radiator and is wedged between the radiator and the ac condenser radiator.
I figured that @ best! Probably meant for a weekend warrior project! Thanks for the update.  Z 
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: SM105K on November 08, 2018, 12:11:12 PM
Quote from: Jordan on November 07, 2018, 04:41:41 PM
You have to pull the radiator out to put it in. Unless you want to drill a couple spot clamps/welds on the front bash bar. (IMO best way, but the poll i made for the installation video method nobody wanted to do that) The whole two piece system thing is a mega PITA because it wraps around the radiator and is wedged between the radiator and the ac condenser radiator.

Break the welds anyway, most of us are going too anyway.
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: Jordan on November 08, 2018, 04:50:13 PM
Quote from: sm105k on November 08, 2018, 12:11:12 PM
Quote from: Jordan on November 07, 2018, 04:41:41 PM
You have to pull the radiator out to put it in. Unless you want to drill a couple spot clamps/welds on the front bash bar. (IMO best way, but the poll i made for the installation video method nobody wanted to do that) The whole two piece system thing is a mega PITA because it wraps around the radiator and is wedged between the radiator and the ac condenser radiator.

Break the welds anyway, most of us are going too anyway.

That's what I have already done for my car at least. The poll that I posted was heavily in favor of the pull the radiator method like... 25-1 People are just not a fan of having to modify something on their car.
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: SM105K on November 08, 2018, 05:06:28 PM
Quote from: Jordan on November 08, 2018, 04:50:13 PM
Quote from: sm105k on November 08, 2018, 12:11:12 PM
Quote from: Jordan on November 07, 2018, 04:41:41 PM
You have to pull the radiator out to put it in. Unless you want to drill a couple spot clamps/welds on the front bash bar. (IMO best way, but the poll i made for the installation video method nobody wanted to do that) The whole two piece system thing is a mega PITA because it wraps around the radiator and is wedged between the radiator and the ac condenser radiator.

Break the welds anyway, most of us are going too anyway.

That's what I have already done for my car at least. The poll that I posted was heavily in favor of the pull the radiator method like... 25-1 People are just not a fan of having to modify something on their car.

I get it. If is it easily able to be bolted back together...that is a no brainer.  I don't want to deal with coolant all over the floor and all that trash.  No bueno.  I have to do a coolant flush soon, and I will not be doing it.  I will make Ford do it....lol.
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: Jordan on November 08, 2018, 08:07:29 PM
Yeah I agree, unfortunately I am not in a place to choose when I will be doing the intercooler install video! Ha!
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: Agentlongwood on November 22, 2018, 11:12:58 PM
Did these ever end up going up for sale?
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: Jordan on November 23, 2018, 07:09:43 PM
Quote from: Agentlongwood on November 22, 2018, 11:12:58 PM
Did these ever end up going up for sale?

No new news. He is hoping to hear something Monday he said.
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: fast1195 on December 10, 2018, 12:30:26 PM
Anxiously awaiting any updates to see if i can get into a batch by spring 19'. Does anyone know if this is still the best place to find out new info?
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: SHOdded on December 10, 2018, 12:37:16 PM
FB (SHO Owners Club) is currently the place to get the most uptodate info, other than directly from Gearhead.  You will have to register for the FB group as it is now a "closed" group.
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: ZSHO on December 10, 2018, 06:39:12 PM
I'm unfortunately not optimistic as the New Year is fast approaching as this reminds me of the long anticipated reveal of the HPFP which was finally and readily available in the summer of 2017 IIRC! I hope I'm wrong on this.  Z

https://www.hotrod.com/articles/direct-injection-mystery-solved-injectors-pumps-ecoboost-tensema16/ (https://www.hotrod.com/articles/direct-injection-mystery-solved-injectors-pumps-ecoboost-tensema16/)

https://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php?topic=8079.msg125292#msg125292 (https://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php?topic=8079.msg125292#msg125292)
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: Jordan on December 10, 2018, 07:42:19 PM
Thought I'd share this with you peepers.
(https://i.imgur.com/o9Xur1R.jpg)
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: bpd1151 on December 10, 2018, 07:44:36 PM
Quote from: Jordan on December 10, 2018, 07:42:19 PM
Thought I'd share this with you peepers.
(https://i.imgur.com/o9Xur1R.jpg)
Ooooooh car (intercooler) porn!!

Excuse me if I go step away from the forum while I handle some personal matters.

Should be back in about 2min.

Hahaha.

But in all seriousness, thanks for posting! :thumb:

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Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: ZSHO on December 10, 2018, 08:02:09 PM
Need to weld the Turbo side on! Lol
Thanks for the updated post. Z
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: Jordan on December 10, 2018, 08:17:24 PM
Quote from: ZSHO on December 10, 2018, 08:02:09 PM
Need to weld the Turbo side on!!! Thanks for the updated post. Z

Haha it won't fit easily with it solid like that unfortunately. It becomes a huge pain in the butt. His V1 was like that.
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: Macgyver on December 10, 2018, 10:31:07 PM
It looks more like an upgraded radiator than an IC. LOL

Cool design.
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: ecoboostsho on December 11, 2018, 08:13:24 AM
Quote from: Macgyver on December 10, 2018, 10:31:07 PM
It looks more like an upgraded radiator than an IC. LOL

Cool design.
That's what I'll be telling my wife.  Radiator went bad...have to get this new one... :)
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: Macgyver on December 11, 2018, 07:03:52 PM
Quote from: ecoboostsho on December 11, 2018, 08:13:24 AM
Quote from: Macgyver on December 10, 2018, 10:31:07 PM
It looks more like an upgraded radiator than an IC. LOL

Cool design.
That's what I'll be telling my wife.  Radiator went bad...have to get this new one... :)

LOLOL. Now that would work. 99% of the women out there would not know. Just pour some water on the ground while you are "Changing the Radiator" ....... Haha
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: Agentlongwood on December 22, 2018, 01:34:45 PM
These suckers ever end up going up for sale?
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: Jordan on December 22, 2018, 07:22:28 PM
Aiming for just after the new year.
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: StealBlueSho on December 22, 2018, 09:27:48 PM
Quote from: Jordan on December 22, 2018, 07:22:28 PM
Aiming for just after the new year.


LMAO...  I talked to him about a week ago... he was aiming for Jan 1st.



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Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: ZSHO on December 23, 2018, 03:33:44 PM
I'm hoping Matt from Gearhead will keep us updated on all counts. Z   :)
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: Gray Brick on December 24, 2018, 12:52:49 AM
I got tired of holding my breath for this one and made my own...
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: 4sfed on December 24, 2018, 07:07:47 AM
Quote from: Gray Brick on December 24, 2018, 12:52:49 AM
I got tired of holding my breath for this one and made my own...

Yeah...and isn't yours water to air?  You should check out killer chiller.


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Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: Gray Brick on December 24, 2018, 10:53:47 AM
I built my own chiller as well... they did not have a kit specific to the Flex
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: 4sfed on December 24, 2018, 10:55:29 AM
Quote from: Gray Brick on December 24, 2018, 10:53:47 AM
I built my own chiller as well... they did not have a kit specific to the Flex

Dude.  Sweet!

Can you give me a hint on some of the stuff you used?  Your responses before have been very limited in info...  :P


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Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: limited02 on January 09, 2019, 10:28:02 AM
Any update on the intercooler?
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: Jordan on January 09, 2019, 11:43:41 AM
As soon as he receives the shipment of 40 they will be in stock and ready for shipping is all I got. Should be sooooooon
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: Jordan on January 10, 2019, 12:53:49 AM
Thought I'd share this with you as I just found out and had been contacted by him to produce the video for installation.

Matt Robinson: Good News... Intercoolers will be here Friday and start shipping Monday. If you want one here are the instructions:
Email sales@ghtuning.com with subject line " SHO Intercooler Order" Include your full name and billing address (we will only ship to billing address). Include your contact number as well.
With the order, you have the option of getting a free tuning update if you already have one of our calibrations, purchasing an SCT tuning device and getting a free calibration with it, or getting a $50 discount off the tune if you are running someone else's SCT tuning (we only support the livewire TS or x4 at this time). Please state your tuning intention in the body of the email. We will call you with the total price ($799 plus shipping for the intercooler). Shipping will be somewhere around $75 due to the size and weight (40 LBS).
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: Colorado-SHOBro on January 10, 2019, 01:10:59 AM
^Just saw this info as well! I'd really like to know if Brad thinks he can tune for it.
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Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: AJP turbo on January 10, 2019, 05:23:27 AM
Quote from: Colorado-SHOBro on January 10, 2019, 01:10:59 AM
^Just saw this info as well! I'd really like to know if Brad thinks he can tune for it.
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Absolutely! I exchanged some brief words with Gearhead about the intercooler and I highly recommend getting one if you have the means. I think this is one of the best things to come out for the SHO recently. Can't wait to see them out there.
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: SHOdded on January 10, 2019, 07:19:22 AM
I would buy one just as a keepsake, but that shipping weight is scaring the bejeezuz out of me LOL.
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: 802SHO on January 10, 2019, 08:06:55 AM
Quote from: SHOdded on January 10, 2019, 07:19:22 AM
I would buy one just as a keepsake, but that shipping weight is scaring the bejeezuz out of me LOL.

Jeez 40 pounds!  What does the stock one weigh? 
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: Jordan on January 10, 2019, 09:35:20 AM
Quote from: 802SHO on January 10, 2019, 08:06:55 AM
Quote from: SHOdded on January 10, 2019, 07:19:22 AM
I would buy one just as a keepsake, but that shipping weight is scaring the bejeezuz out of me LOL.

Jeez 40 pounds!  What does the stock one weigh? 

Maybe 15lbs, but I am assuming the total shipping weight is about 40lbs. Considering the end tanks are now cast aluminum instead of plastic as well as the weight of the box and foam etc i don't doubt it honestly. Should be a good upgrade. I'll have mine coming ASAP so I can get started on the installation. Now I gotta scrounge up some bucks! I got a little ambitious and tried to pay down some debt, but I sure did that at the wrong time LOL
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: Colorado-SHOBro on January 10, 2019, 10:47:06 AM
Quote from: AJP turbo on January 10, 2019, 05:23:27 AM
Quote from: Colorado-SHOBro on January 10, 2019, 01:10:59 AM
^Just saw this info as well! I'd really like to know if Brad thinks he can tune for it.
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Absolutely! I exchanged some brief words with Gearhead about the intercooler and I highly recommend getting one if you have the means. I think this is one of the best things to come out for the SHO recently. Can't wait to see them out there.
Great to hear Brad! I'll definitely be doing the upgrade but it may be after tax returns. I've already replaced my intercooler once so installation should be a bit easier the 2nd time around. 
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: SHOdded on January 10, 2019, 10:59:51 AM
def don't mean to shed any doubt on this upgrade.  this thing means business.  everyone on here should already have ordered it :D
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: 802SHO on January 10, 2019, 11:01:54 AM
Quote from: Jordan on January 10, 2019, 09:35:20 AM
Quote from: 802SHO on January 10, 2019, 08:06:55 AM
Quote from: SHOdded on January 10, 2019, 07:19:22 AM
I would buy one just as a keepsake, but that shipping weight is scaring the bejeezuz out of me LOL.

Jeez 40 pounds!  What does the stock one weigh? 

Maybe 15lbs, but I am assuming the total shipping weight is about 40lbs. Considering the end tanks are now cast aluminum instead of plastic as well as the weight of the box and foam etc i don't doubt it honestly. Should be a good upgrade. I'll have mine coming ASAP so I can get started on the installation. Now I gotta scrounge up some bucks! I got a little ambitious and tried to pay down some debt, but I sure did that at the wrong time LOL

Man I'm excited to see the install video and hear your results!  I'm definitely down for the upgrade as well and I'm in a similar situation with funding Lol!  Except mine is buying a root canal and a crown!  Yippie 😕😳
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: StealBlueSho on January 10, 2019, 11:15:45 AM
Email sent! Hoping I can get it next week sometime!!!


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Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: 10bird on January 10, 2019, 11:23:03 AM
Quote from: SHOdded on January 10, 2019, 10:59:51 AM
def don't mean to shed any doubt on this upgrade.  this thing means business.  everyone on here should already have ordered it :D
How difficult are these to install?
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: Jordan on January 10, 2019, 03:26:54 PM
Can be installed probably in a few hours solo with regular hand tools.
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: mattr66 on January 10, 2019, 03:51:22 PM
Quote from: Jordan on January 10, 2019, 09:35:20 AM
Quote from: 802SHO on January 10, 2019, 08:06:55 AM
Quote from: SHOdded on January 10, 2019, 07:19:22 AM
I would buy one just as a keepsake, but that shipping weight is scaring the bejeezuz out of me LOL.

Jeez 40 pounds!  What does the stock one weigh? 

Maybe 15lbs, but I am assuming the total shipping weight is about 40lbs. Considering the end tanks are now cast aluminum instead of plastic as well as the weight of the box and foam etc i don't doubt it honestly. Should be a good upgrade. I'll have mine coming ASAP so I can get started on the installation. Now I gotta scrounge up some bucks! I got a little ambitious and tried to pay down some debt, but I sure did that at the wrong time LOL
Core is a beast... Only thing that would work in this application was sourced from a European diesel application.... So you are picking up some extra weight, but you are also at almost 3x the fin surface area of stock...

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Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: 802SHO on January 10, 2019, 05:44:25 PM
Quote from: mattr66 on January 10, 2019, 03:51:22 PM
Quote from: Jordan on January 10, 2019, 09:35:20 AM
Quote from: 802SHO on January 10, 2019, 08:06:55 AM
Quote from: SHOdded on January 10, 2019, 07:19:22 AM
I would buy one just as a keepsake, but that shipping weight is scaring the bejeezuz out of me LOL.

Jeez 40 pounds!  What does the stock one weigh? 

Maybe 15lbs, but I am assuming the total shipping weight is about 40lbs. Considering the end tanks are now cast aluminum instead of plastic as well as the weight of the box and foam etc i don't doubt it honestly. Should be a good upgrade. I'll have mine coming ASAP so I can get started on the installation. Now I gotta scrounge up some bucks! I got a little ambitious and tried to pay down some debt, but I sure did that at the wrong time LOL
Core is a beast... Only thing that would work in this application was sourced from a European diesel application.... So you are picking up some extra weight, but you are also at almost 3x the fin surface area of stock...

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It is intersting that it weighs more but it was more of a joke about adding too much weight going back to the weight reduction humor but well worth the extra weight for sure!
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: BoostfoSHO on January 12, 2019, 11:55:57 AM
Just got an update from Matt and asked me to post in the forums in regards to the intercoolers.

no one has been contacted yet.  We have to do some qc on the shippment before they can ship out.  Nobody has been emailed yet.

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Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: bpd1151 on January 17, 2019, 11:23:32 AM
Oh my...... I was woken to the dogs barking, the door bell ringing just now.

Upon heading to the front door, low and behold, Santa arrived with a late package for me.

A brand spanking new and improved IC from GH!

Beastly she is. Packaged so well that I'm afraid to remove her entirely from its packaging.

I've amassed quite the collection of aftermarket performance parts these last 6mo.'s or so......

Looks like I'll be pestering my mechanic pal for some lift time the Spring.

Exciting somehow downplays my enthusiasm at this newest offering for our platform!

Thanks to Matt and his entire crew over at Gearhead for continuing down that mod path and remaining committed to this product development for over 2yrs now!

Nice to see this having come to fruition!

Bravo fellas, bravo!(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190117/fb660ef8d18f0ce42fa670f760aaed4a.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190117/1b45c809ed46b3001bdf2e537d108af9.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190117/bb0aef79108d0d497115a29b86947a6a.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190117/c7d46ebf3a27378bb3c4a66a6a046e10.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190117/7dc4f5bbca01515ab7013591ae89670a.jpg)

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Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: nickstewartroc on January 17, 2019, 11:37:03 AM
Seeing it come in the CSF box makes me wonder just how different it is compared to what they are selling already: https://www.ebay.com/itm/CSF-Intercooler-New-Ford-Taurus-Flex-Lincoln-MKS-MKT-2010-2016-6015/122311087071 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/CSF-Intercooler-New-Ford-Taurus-Flex-Lincoln-MKS-MKT-2010-2016-6015/122311087071)
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: mattr66 on January 17, 2019, 12:02:14 PM
Quote from: nickstewartroc on January 17, 2019, 11:37:03 AM
Seeing it come in the CSF box makes me wonder just how different it is compared to what they are selling already: https://www.ebay.com/itm/CSF-Intercooler-New-Ford-Taurus-Flex-Lincoln-MKS-MKT-2010-2016-6015/122311087071 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/CSF-Intercooler-New-Ford-Taurus-Flex-Lincoln-MKS-MKT-2010-2016-6015/122311087071)
Vastly different I can assure you..... we tried putting my core on the tanks on that one and it sucked.  And the one piece inlet tank made it impossible to install without breaking the tab that holds the air cleaner on....  Also their tanks didn't flow enough to support the increased flow of the core.  These factors are why it has been a 3 year project and costs a little more than a stock replacement....

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Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: nickstewartroc on January 17, 2019, 12:04:39 PM
Quote from: mattr66 on January 17, 2019, 12:02:14 PM
Quote from: nickstewartroc on January 17, 2019, 11:37:03 AM
Seeing it come in the CSF box makes me wonder just how different it is compared to what they are selling already: https://www.ebay.com/itm/CSF-Intercooler-New-Ford-Taurus-Flex-Lincoln-MKS-MKT-2010-2016-6015/122311087071 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/CSF-Intercooler-New-Ford-Taurus-Flex-Lincoln-MKS-MKT-2010-2016-6015/122311087071)
Vastly different I can assure you..... we tried putting my core on the tanks on that one and it sucked.  And the one piece inlet tank made it impossible to install without breaking the tab that holds the air cleaner on....  Also their tanks didn't flow enough to support the increased flow of the core.  These factors are why it has been a 3 year project and costs a little more than a stock replacement....

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Thanks for the update Mat! Figured they would be pretty different
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: Gray Brick on January 17, 2019, 12:25:43 PM
It would be nice to see a few side by side pictures and a flow bench comparison.

Stock vs. Stock Replacement
Stock vs. Upgraded Replacement
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: mattr66 on January 17, 2019, 01:22:05 PM
Quote from: Gray Brick on January 17, 2019, 12:25:43 PM
It would be nice to see a few side by side pictures and a flow bench comparison.

Stock vs. Stock Replacement
Stock vs. Upgraded Replacement
Not necessary just trust me

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Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: mattr66 on January 17, 2019, 01:23:14 PM
Quote from: Gray Brick on January 17, 2019, 12:25:43 PM
It would be nice to see a few side by side pictures and a flow bench comparison.

Stock vs. Stock Replacement
Stock vs. Upgraded Replacement
Also, the cooling capacity is the biggest change.  The added flow is 20% of what makes it better....

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Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: Gray Brick on January 17, 2019, 05:55:54 PM
What do you base this 20% increase on?
Please share your data with the rest of the forum.
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: lamrith on January 17, 2019, 06:24:49 PM
Quote from: Gray Brick on January 17, 2019, 05:55:54 PM
What do you base this 20% increase on?
Please share your data with the rest of the forum.
He was saying that the increase CFM was only "20%" of the benefit.  The real benefit is that this core does a better job cooling the air.  It's performance increase is not about moving more air, it is about keeping the air colder.  HEAT has been the 3.5Eco's achillies heal more than airflow..  How many threads havee there been where people are talking about 140-150-160-170* IAT2's?  I know my car runs up in the 170's at idle, and 140's moving in summer.  That is a direct loss of timing, getting it down sub 100* is pure $$$.
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: mattr66 on January 17, 2019, 06:57:35 PM
Quote from: Gray Brick on January 17, 2019, 05:55:54 PM
What do you base this 20% increase on?
Please share your data with the rest of the forum.
You have not been following this development process over the last 2 years I see.  The outlet tank exit went from 290 cfm on their stock replacement tank to a little over 600 cfm on mine.  Iat2 maintains 25 degrees over ambient at 18 psi of boost with tis unit.  The stock intercooler will heat soak and hit 180 degrees on a 90 degree day at that boost level.  At slow speeds the manifold will get hot just because of it being on top of the engine, nothing you can do about that.

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Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: 802SHO on January 17, 2019, 07:05:13 PM
Quote from: mattr66 on January 17, 2019, 06:57:35 PM
Quote from: Gray Brick on January 17, 2019, 05:55:54 PM
What do you base this 20% increase on?
Please share your data with the rest of the forum.
You have not been following this development process over the last 2 years I see.  The outlet tank exit went from 290 cfm on their stock replacement tank to a little over 600 cfm on mine.  Iat2 maintains 25 degrees over ambient at 18 psi of boost with tis unit.  The stock intercooler will heat soak and hit 180 degrees on a 90 degree day at that boost level.  At slow speeds the manifold will get hot just because of it being on top of the engine, nothing you can do about that.

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Wow that is a huge improvement!  I was sold before but now its a no brainer upgrade for me.
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: Jordan on January 18, 2019, 08:21:16 AM
Mine should be here today. Won't be installing until the weekend if it is delivered need to get the crew together to film this install. I've seen a couple of them delivered and they look great.
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: mattr66 on January 18, 2019, 12:31:54 PM
Take it from Bobbie(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190118/bc6254f3cdacce238fed8df7ed93e404.jpg)

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Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: SaveMelMac on January 18, 2019, 12:58:26 PM
Can't wait to see the results!
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: mattr66 on January 18, 2019, 03:28:24 PM
Quote from: SaveMelMac on January 18, 2019, 12:58:26 PM
Can't wait to see the results!
I have lots of results...(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190118/15bf9cacb68eef0b6d1f2e44728bfb12.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190118/6e26b361e86890f20a17bb00f2e78fb8.jpg)

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Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: 802SHO on January 18, 2019, 06:51:01 PM
Quote from: mattr66 on January 18, 2019, 03:28:24 PM
Quote from: SaveMelMac on January 18, 2019, 12:58:26 PM
Can't wait to see the results!
I have lots of results...(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190118/15bf9cacb68eef0b6d1f2e44728bfb12.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190118/6e26b361e86890f20a17bb00f2e78fb8.jpg)

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It's so clear to see how inadequite the stock intercooler is...was....its almost like showing what the difference is between no intercooler(stock) and actually having one(upgrade).  This is a must have!  Awesome!
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: Jordan on January 19, 2019, 11:15:13 PM
For those skeptical of this upgrade I just made an installation video with a good buddy of mine. Editing etc now, but for the mean time here are some comparison photos! Absolutely worth it!

(https://i.imgur.com/RnAQ7KG.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/5uIHWlT.jpg)

Sucker is HEAVY! But with the cast end tanks over plastic and the thickness of the intercooler it really shows how much MORE there is there.
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: Agentlongwood on January 20, 2019, 04:08:58 PM
Sigh... want one so dang bad.  Can't get it passed the wife committee though :(
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: Josephm on January 20, 2019, 04:40:38 PM
This will be huge for towing!!! I am waiting for a couple of install videos before I pull the trigger.
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: Jordan on January 20, 2019, 06:41:26 PM
Working on final render for the install video. It's not spoon feeding info but it's got everything you'll need to swap out if you are comfortable with a wrench
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: SHOdded on January 20, 2019, 11:16:06 PM
 :baby: :baby: :baby:
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: ddlopes on January 24, 2019, 06:56:21 AM
Any updates on the installation process?
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: BoostfoSHO on January 24, 2019, 07:24:40 AM
Quote from: ddlopes on January 24, 2019, 06:56:21 AM
Any updates on the installation process?
It's not hard to do. Just got to remove the fans, radiator and some hoses and clamps. It's like a 3 to 4 hour job.

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Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: ddlopes on January 24, 2019, 08:55:28 AM
Ok... have you installed one already? Some was mentioned removal of the front bumper. Which I'd rather not do. Thanks for the reply
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: Jordan on January 24, 2019, 01:33:06 PM
Mine is installed yes. And you have to take off the bumper no other way
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: BoostfoSHO on January 24, 2019, 01:37:50 PM
Quote from: ddlopes on January 24, 2019, 08:55:28 AM
Ok... have you installed one already? Some was mentioned removal of the front bumper. Which I'd rather not do. Thanks for the reply
Yes I installed mine and yes bumper must be removed and I'd say removing the bumper is the easiest part it's like 6 screws and 4 clips.

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Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: 10bird on January 24, 2019, 02:37:47 PM
When do we get to hear about the reviews of these intercoolers?
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: ddlopes on January 24, 2019, 03:07:41 PM
Ok... I'm gonna have to do some research on removing the bumper, radiator and fans I guess...  thanks again for the info... one more thing did the install require any special tools?
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: ZSHO on January 24, 2019, 04:27:47 PM
Here are a couple of PDF ON 13+ SHO Front Bumper Cover removal!
Need 2 set of hands for removal & install.. Z

https://drive.google.com/file/d/10pXBK2e6jjnG8vU3nmAnMU9Vy7HmbAjvtbapZp82j1DGeiFhRG50jRSgHgB_pz1c6n2S6dyMFr_H8RSm/view?usp=drivesdk

https://drive.google.com/file/d/125uaU8NM8O4Cw6bLPwloqc5SM6o1ACeZxY1am7kfmpu40o3dbTcZ7pIqwXBk49r2FTv9oOED_3mjGs0w/view?usp=drivesdk

https://drive.google.com/file/d/10pXBK2e6jjnG8vU3nmAnMU9Vy7HmbAjvtbapZp82j1DGeiFhRG50jRSgHgB_pz1c6n2S6dyMFr_H8RSm/view?usp=drivesdk
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: mattr66 on January 24, 2019, 04:37:48 PM
Quote from: 10bird on January 24, 2019, 02:37:47 PM
When do we get to hear about the reviews of these intercoolers?
Here's some data.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190124/cd3b17989b030a047c136176128c738c.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190124/458778d9a03c09957901eee108a5b25f.jpg)

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Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: ddlopes on January 24, 2019, 05:03:02 PM
Thanks Z... I'm nervous that I'd damage the bumper removing it. But it does look pretty simple. I'll have to watch a few YouTube videos first... lol
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: Jordan on January 24, 2019, 05:20:26 PM
If the bumper is your biggest worry, you may not want to tackle this job. The bumper is the easiest part.
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: SHOdded on January 24, 2019, 05:44:22 PM
I think we should be clear on terminology.  Are we removing the bumper COVER or the bumper?  Removing the bumper itself is a safety issue.  The COVER is easy peasy, but definitely suggest 2 people, underlayments to place the cover on, etc.  Not much required.
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: mattr66 on January 24, 2019, 05:45:37 PM
Quote from: SHOdded on January 24, 2019, 05:44:22 PM
I think we should be clear on terminology.  Are we removing the bumper COVER or the bumper?  Removing the bumper itself is a safety issue.  The COVER is easy peasy, but definitely suggest 2 people, underlayments to place the cover on, etc.  Not much required.
Cover only, not the crash protection structure.

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Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: avidmotion on January 24, 2019, 05:55:27 PM
....so 850 bucks, somewhat straightforward installation, 40-50 hp......now get a third job or grow gold out of my ass and id be all set...did i miss anything?
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: Jordan on January 24, 2019, 05:57:17 PM
Quote from: avidmotion on January 24, 2019, 05:55:27 PM
....so 850 bucks, somewhat straightforward installation, 40-50 hp......now get a third job or grow gold out of my ass and id be all set...did i miss anything?

Haha, it's absolutely worth it though. An installation video is coming soon from Gearhead so just keep posted on that.
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: ZSHO on January 24, 2019, 06:22:55 PM
I hope no one ends up drilling a hole in this bad boy because even the smallest pinhole leaks can lose power AFAIK!
 
TOTAL AMOUNT Is $875.00 correct! Z
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: SHOdded on January 24, 2019, 06:30:13 PM
Hellboy will be brought to bear on such desecrators!!!
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: 802SHO on January 24, 2019, 06:49:36 PM
Quote from: mattr66 on January 24, 2019, 04:37:48 PM
Quote from: 10bird on January 24, 2019, 02:37:47 PM
When do we get to hear about the reviews of these intercoolers?
Here's some data.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190124/cd3b17989b030a047c136176128c738c.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190124/458778d9a03c09957901eee108a5b25f.jpg)

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There's going to be a lot of new personal best strip times and hopefully more ripping through the 12 barrier into the 11's!  Let's see how deep we can go!  Hopefully BPD will set us a new record 👍
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: bpd1151 on January 24, 2019, 07:04:11 PM
Quote from: avidmotion on January 24, 2019, 05:55:27 PM......so 850 bucks, somewhat straightforward installation, 40-50 hp......now get a third job or grow gold out of my ass and id be all set...did i miss anything?

Have you priced what an upgraded IC runs on other platforms???

And this one being not only custom, but one that's gone through multiple revisions and upgrade(s) from its' initial version from concept at that.....?

I'll guess probably not.

$800 for the part alone is peanuts.

If you're squabbling over that, perhaps you should just sell your SHO now, and save yourself some headaches.

LOL.

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Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: SHOdded on January 24, 2019, 08:18:07 PM
custom parts are hard enough to get into development, forget about production.  been down that road WAY too many times.  glad to see gearhead putting the hammer down, full steam ahead on things!
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: bpd1151 on January 24, 2019, 08:19:02 PM
Quote from: SHOdded on January 24, 2019, 08:18:07 PM
custom parts are hard enough to get into development, forget about production.  been down that road WAY too many times.  glad to see gearhead putting the hammer down, full steam ahead on things!
Absolutely! 110% agreed!

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Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: AJP turbo on January 25, 2019, 06:52:37 AM
Quote from: ZSHO on January 24, 2019, 06:22:55 PM
I hope no one ends up drilling a hole in this bad boy because even the smallest pinhole leaks can lose power AFAIK!
 
TOTAL AMOUNT Is $875.00 correct! Z

Some uneducated F150 owner and owner of an inferior tune will negatively influence a SHO owner to do something dumb like that unfortunately lol
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: SHOdded on January 25, 2019, 10:14:39 AM
The idea of a builtin drain plug is appealing tho.
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: mattr66 on January 25, 2019, 11:00:56 AM
Quote from: AJP turbo on January 25, 2019, 06:52:37 AM
Quote from: ZSHO on January 24, 2019, 06:22:55 PM
I hope no one ends up drilling a hole in this bad boy because even the smallest pinhole leaks can lose power AFAIK!
 
TOTAL AMOUNT Is $875.00 correct! Z

Some uneducated F150 owner and owner of an inferior tune will negatively influence a SHO owner to do something dumb like that unfortunately lol
That's why this one has a drain plug..

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Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: SHOdded on January 25, 2019, 05:23:46 PM
Well, there you go!  You'd think this was a custom piece or something, LOL!
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: ZSHO on January 25, 2019, 05:27:11 PM
One of the key factor's is left last.. Drain plug on the Passenger side of IC ?TIA. Z
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: ZSHO on January 25, 2019, 05:38:21 PM
Quote from: SHOdded on January 25, 2019, 05:23:46 PM
Well, there you go!  You'd think this was a custom piece or something, LOL!
True Indeed Manu! Nothing good comes easy. Z
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: 10bird on January 26, 2019, 01:47:26 PM
Does this intercooler make meth unnecessary?
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: 802SHO on January 26, 2019, 02:04:44 PM
Quote from: 10bird on January 26, 2019, 01:47:26 PM
Does this intercooler make meth unnecessary?

The intercooler upgrade will increase power.  Meth increases power.  I have meth, I'll still get more hp and torque from upgrading my intercooler.  Without meth you'll get increased hp and torque.  If you upgrade your intercooler instead of doing meth injection ....youll enjoy similar performance benefits as meth but they don't equal eachother out.  Having both will make more power than going with one or the other only.  Less scientific explanation than most lol I'm sure someone can chime in. 
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: SHOdded on January 26, 2019, 05:28:10 PM
Methanol will still retain its' benefit of cleaning the back of the intake valves, and you will need a lot less for that sole purpose.  If you have a progressive controller and are tuned for it, you could vary its' contribution to power levels as well in high DA conditions.  Benefit to having both.  Together, a 1-2 punch IMHO.
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: avidmotion on January 26, 2019, 06:18:14 PM
Squabbling over the price? No, i realize the time and cost of R&D and happy it is even done for our small close nit group of enthusiasts.  Get rid of my SHO is laughable in itself. Not going to hapen took me years to get. I had 90, and a 95 before this 2013, and got the PP for the extra coolers. In my situation i was referring to how long it will take me to save up to get and install the CAC. Not everyone has spendable fun money or a performance part budget. No one has to make fun of and insult those of us that has to research and plan to get either maintenance or power parts....
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: ZSHO on January 26, 2019, 07:41:49 PM
FYI -There was no harm intended IMO and Let's keep our discussions grounded and straight to the point! TIA. Z
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: SHOdded on January 26, 2019, 08:50:05 PM
Def no harm no foul.  Simply speaking to the tremendous bang for the buck this mod is.

Budgeting is part of everyone's process for things like this.  It IS hard to look at things happening, want those things to happen to YOUR vehicle, but have to defer or forgo it completely.  Many a time I have been in that boat, and I am sure many others have as well.  As they say, food, clothing, housing come first.  Paying bills can be a b****.
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: AJP turbo on January 26, 2019, 11:42:50 PM
Quote from: 10bird on January 26, 2019, 01:47:26 PM
Does this intercooler make meth unnecessary?

No. But depends on your goals and use of the car. The intercooler won't add octane. But there are many benefits that you get besides octane. But the cooler temps afforded to you from the upgraded intercooler will give benefits without octane.

This intercooler will help people more than they realize. It's awesome. And I think the cost is reasonable to say the least. This wasn't your run of the mill intercooler development. Most cars have them right upfront in the grill. Ford blessed the SHO with having the intercooler buried.

This is going to help so much when the temps are hot.
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: Agentlongwood on January 27, 2019, 10:33:40 PM
Quote from: avidmotion on January 26, 2019, 06:18:14 PM
Not everyone has spendable fun money or a performance part budget.

This is me, lol.  I want the dang intercooler so dang bad... and the price seems right.  But man it's hard to get $850 Approved from the Willful Internal Finance Executive.
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: bpd1151 on January 27, 2019, 10:37:22 PM


Quote from: Agentlongwood on January 27, 2019, 10:33:40 PMBut man it's hard to get $850 Approved from the Willful Internal Finance Executive.

Ha! This made me chuckle.

Thus why y'all need to set aside some secret stash money for exactly these types of purchases.

I wish you and others good luck in those efforts.

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Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: Agentlongwood on January 27, 2019, 11:10:30 PM
Some day... I mean we don't keep secrets, but my "side money" is going to paying my student loans for the foreseeable future.   Sometimes we end up going overboard with the penny pinching, but she does keep me on the straight and narrow.  All things considered it's pretty good.  She's a keeper, lol. 
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: StealBlueSho on February 04, 2019, 04:16:03 PM
Installed mine yesterday... thanks Jordan for the video!

Couple notes...

The fender lining on my SHO didn't have screws connecting to the bumper. It was 7/32 bolts. Yes, not metric... weird, curious if anyone runs into that?

My drain plug was on the passenger side of the radiator.

If you have a PP you need to remove the aux trans cooler to gain EASY access to the passenger side condenser bolt.

You can just remove the 5 plastic screws from the bottom splash guard connecting to the bumper lip. You don't need to remove the bottom lip as depicted in the video.

Don't forget to swap the metal screw clips from the old IC to the new one for the condenser.

I went through 1.5 Gallons of coolant.

IAT at the manifold has greatly been reduced. After sitting it doesn't take long afterwards to clear the hot air out. When driving in 60F temps I have yet to see anything over 100F. It seems to be happy 20F-30F above ambient when cruising  and doesn't heat soak (yet in my testing).

Will be interested in comparing logs between last year at the track and this year.

Like I told Matt... the added weight over the front tires might help at the track ;-)
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: Jordan on February 04, 2019, 09:57:19 PM
7/32 is about 5.5mm so could be either or. Drain plug is dependant on build date no clue where each cut off is. Matt said his was passenger as well, mine was driver. The aux cooler was definitely an after thought LOL. Nice you got it finished up.

On other news did an o2 sensor today in mine. Had one hitting the crapper.
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: SM105K on February 05, 2019, 08:20:39 AM
Just bit the bullet and purchased my intercooler. Going to throw her on the rollers next week to see what she does pre and post IC install.  430 hp and over 510 tq would be pretty damn cool. 
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: StealBlueSho on February 05, 2019, 09:07:20 AM
Quote from: Jordan on February 04, 2019, 09:57:19 PM
7/32 is about 5.5mm so could be either or. Drain plug is dependant on build date no clue where each cut off is. Matt said his was passenger as well, mine was driver. The aux cooler was definitely an after thought LOL. Nice you got it finished up.

On other news did an o2 sensor today in mine. Had one hitting the crapper.

7/32 fits like a glove. 5mm was too small and 6mm was too big. Trust me, when everything else on this car is metric I was a little surprised. I actually tried 2 different 5mm sockets just make sure I wasn't going crazy.

I wonder if any late MY 2016+ guys can confirm if theirs is the same. My build date is 11/2016.  If not, then I wonder if this car was in an accident.
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: 802SHO on February 05, 2019, 10:13:27 AM
Quote from: sm105k on February 05, 2019, 08:20:39 AM
Just bit the bullet and purchased my intercooler. Going to throw her on the rollers next week to see what she does pre and post IC install.  430 hp and over 510 tq would be pretty damn cool.

I must be waiting for an engraved invitation lol I just want to complete my first year of the new business taxes before I make a move on it.  Look forward to your dyno results ....pretty cool youre doing that! 
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: SM105K on February 05, 2019, 10:28:57 AM
Quote from: 802SHO on February 05, 2019, 10:13:27 AM
Quote from: sm105k on February 05, 2019, 08:20:39 AM
Just bit the bullet and purchased my intercooler. Going to throw her on the rollers next week to see what she does pre and post IC install.  430 hp and over 510 tq would be pretty damn cool.

I must be waiting for an engraved invitation lol I just want to complete my first year of the new business taxes before I make a move on it.  Look forward to your dyno results ....pretty cool youre doing that!

Yeah, I am pretty excited.  It will knock out two birds with one stone. I need the IC for the AZ heat, and I need to swap the coolant and throw in a new T-stat. 

I think with the IC, a new E30 tune for said intercooler, and DP's (later) the car will go into the 11's pretty consistently. I like to document changes with dyno and track results.  $120 for 3 pulls is a no brainer for the data.
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: 802SHO on February 05, 2019, 01:14:52 PM
Quote from: sm105k on February 05, 2019, 10:28:57 AM
Quote from: 802SHO on February 05, 2019, 10:13:27 AM
Quote from: sm105k on February 05, 2019, 08:20:39 AM
Just bit the bullet and purchased my intercooler. Going to throw her on the rollers next week to see what she does pre and post IC install.  430 hp and over 510 tq would be pretty damn cool.

I must be waiting for an engraved invitation lol I just want to complete my first year of the new business taxes before I make a move on it.  Look forward to your dyno results ....pretty cool youre doing that!

Yeah, I am pretty excited.  It will knock out two birds with one stone. I need the IC for the AZ heat, and I need to swap the coolant and throw in a new T-stat. 

I think with the IC, a new E30 tune for said intercooler, and DP's (later) the car will go into the 11's pretty consistently. I like to document changes with dyno and track results.  $120 for 3 pulls is a no brainer for the data.

You're definitely doing us all a service by sharing those results as a lot of us have not been to a dyno, including myself.  Testing on the track is one thing but alone its just not enough info.  I did locate a dyno in NH Id like use.  I would prefer to tell someone what the car actually makes versus saying the words (estimated at about......)
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: bpd1151 on February 05, 2019, 01:25:34 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on February 05, 2019, 01:14:52 PMYou're definitely doing us all a service by sharing those results as a lot of us have not been to a dyno, including myself.  Testing on the track is one thing but alone its just not enough info.  I did locate a dyno in NH Id like use.  I would prefer to tell someone what the car actually makes versus saying the words (estimated at about......)

1st, I agree with this sentiment.

2nd, I find it just plain funny to read, as so many dispel dyno's, and the info they provide, and instead, bolster datalogging and claim dyno's don't mean poo poo.

I suppose there's an arguement for both perspectives. I just found it ironic.

Refreshing, but ironic.

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Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: SM105K on February 05, 2019, 02:54:21 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on February 05, 2019, 01:14:52 PM
Quote from: sm105k on February 05, 2019, 10:28:57 AM
Quote from: 802SHO on February 05, 2019, 10:13:27 AM
Quote from: sm105k on February 05, 2019, 08:20:39 AM
Just bit the bullet and purchased my intercooler. Going to throw her on the rollers next week to see what she does pre and post IC install.  430 hp and over 510 tq would be pretty damn cool.

I must be waiting for an engraved invitation lol I just want to complete my first year of the new business taxes before I make a move on it.  Look forward to your dyno results ....pretty cool youre doing that!

Yeah, I am pretty excited.  It will knock out two birds with one stone. I need the IC for the AZ heat, and I need to swap the coolant and throw in a new T-stat. 

I think with the IC, a new E30 tune for said intercooler, and DP's (later) the car will go into the 11's pretty consistently. I like to document changes with dyno and track results.  $120 for 3 pulls is a no brainer for the data.

You're definitely doing us all a service by sharing those results as a lot of us have not been to a dyno, including myself.  Testing on the track is one thing but alone its just not enough info.  I did locate a dyno in NH Id like use.  I would prefer to tell someone what the car actually makes versus saying the words (estimated at about......)

I enjoy chronicling what my SHO does. I want to see what each mod does.  I want to document it and have the information.  I am actually lucky because I have extreme weather as well.  Extreme heat and moderate cold.  It is really enlightening to see what just temp and DA can do to a car. Literally everything I have done to my car is in this thread: https://shoforum.com/index.php?threads/couple-of-goals.138235/  I will keep updating the thread step by step until the car leaves my life.

I have the ability to use both the track and the dyno to verify differences and results.  To me, the dyno is a tool. It can show a couple of things and give a ball park number of the actual number output. Plus all the information we can get on the datalogs is damn important. The dyno that I use has been pretty close.  Mike from EcoPowerParts did alot of his testing on this dyno too.  So they are familiar with platform. 

The king in IMHO is.....trap speed and weight.  I know my car weighs 4560 with me in it and it usually goes 112 miles per hours in the 1/4.  It takes 480 hp to move 4560lbs @ 112 mph in a 1/4 mile.  Take 20% drive line loss....from 480 hp - 96 hp = 386 hp to the tire.... Math says 386 hp, and the dyno says 391 hp.  I would say that is damn close.   

Give me a couple of weeks for the install.  I leave for World's Strongest Logger Thursday, and get back on Sunday night.  Then the Saturday after I have to defend my title as Arizona's Strongest Man on the 16th.  Hopefully on Sunday the 17th I can tear her apart and get her back together.  We shall see if I can still walk that is...
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: StealBlueSho on February 05, 2019, 03:03:33 PM
Finally a nice day to open the SHO up to see how the new IC holds up. I can say that the butt dyno notices a difference during the few pulls I did..

I'll write up a review as I usually do... but temps at the manifold would drop quick and significantly....

Very happy with the latest modification and the data points to real world improvements.

Hats off to GH for this one.

Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: SM105K on February 05, 2019, 03:15:49 PM
Quote from: StealBlueSho on February 05, 2019, 03:03:33 PM
Finally a nice day to open the SHO up to see how the new IC holds up. I can say that the butt dyno notices a difference during the few pulls I did..

I'll write up a review as I usually do... but temps at the manifold would drop quick and significantly....

Very happy with the latest modification and the data points to real world improvements.

Hats off to GH for this one.

Nice, I look forward to your review. You always give top notch information.
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: Macgyver on February 05, 2019, 05:14:25 PM
Quote from: sm105k on February 05, 2019, 02:54:21 PM
Give me a couple of weeks for the install.  I leave for World's Strongest Logger Thursday, and get back on Sunday night.  Then the Saturday after I have to defend my title as Arizona's Strongest Man on the 16th.  Hopefully on Sunday the 17th I can tear her apart and get her back together.  We shall see if I can still walk that is...

Now thats COOL !!!
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: SM105K on February 06, 2019, 08:56:03 AM
Quote from: Macgyver on February 05, 2019, 05:14:25 PM
Quote from: sm105k on February 05, 2019, 02:54:21 PM
Give me a couple of weeks for the install.  I leave for World's Strongest Logger Thursday, and get back on Sunday night.  Then the Saturday after I have to defend my title as Arizona's Strongest Man on the 16th.  Hopefully on Sunday the 17th I can tear her apart and get her back together.  We shall see if I can still walk that is...

Now thats COOL !!!


Been doing it a long time.  10 years now.  I have been fortunate to able to travel the world and train with some of the best strongman in the world.   
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: Jordan on February 06, 2019, 09:38:55 AM
That's sick!
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: bpd1151 on February 06, 2019, 09:55:05 AM
That means sexy man pics of you posing in your banana hammock with the SHO.

But only share those with the ladies. We need more attention to the platform so the ladies know that there are hot men piloting these hot cars or ours.

Bwahahahaha.

But in all seriousness, good luck and continued successes with that venture. Lots of intense dedication, discipline, and training involved in that alone.

Surprised it affords you anytime whatsoever to monkey with the car.

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Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: SM105K on February 06, 2019, 10:31:49 AM
Quote from: bpd1151 on February 06, 2019, 09:55:05 AM
That means sexy man pics of you posing in your banana hammock with the SHO.

But only share those with the ladies. We need more attention to the platform so the ladies know that there are hot men piloting these hot cars or ours.

Bwahahahaha.

But in all seriousness, good luck and continued successes with that venture. Lots of intense dedication, discipline, and training involved in that alone.

Surprised it affords you anytime whatsoever to monkey with the car.

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Don't be surpised if you get those pictures in your inbox BPD!  HAHA. 

I wish more good looking ladies would take interest in our land yachts.  That would be cool.

Sometimes strongman feels like another job.  Between the gym, supplements, time, diet, travel, and just overall body punishment I still actually enjoy it.  Working on/maintaining/detailing/thrashing the SHO is actually therapy for me so I make the time. I get up every morning before 4 am, so I have zero excuse not to keep up everything.     

Thanks for the kind words guys.   
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: 802SHO on February 06, 2019, 10:48:14 AM
Quote from: sm105k on February 06, 2019, 10:31:49 AM
Quote from: bpd1151 on February 06, 2019, 09:55:05 AM
That means sexy man pics of you posing in your banana hammock with the SHO.

But only share those with the ladies. We need more attention to the platform so the ladies know that there are hot men piloting these hot cars or ours.

Bwahahahaha.

But in all seriousness, good luck and continued successes with that venture. Lots of intense dedication, discipline, and training involved in that alone.

Surprised it affords you anytime whatsoever to monkey with the car.

Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk


Don't be surpised if you get those pictures in your inbox BPD!  HAHA. 

I wish more good looking ladies would take interest in our land yachts.  That would be cool.

Sometimes strongman feels like another job.  Between the gym, supplements, time, diet, travel, and just overall body punishment I still actually enjoy it.  Working on/maintaining/detailing/thrashing the SHO is actually therapy for me so I make the time. I get up every morning before 4 am, so I have zero excuse not to keep up everything.     

Thanks for the kind words guys.   

Congratulations on becoming Arizona's Strongest Man and I wish you the best on defending that title! 

I like what you said about having zero excuses.  The hard truth is that if its truly important to us we'll make time.
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: SM105K on February 06, 2019, 11:10:22 AM
Quote from: 802SHO on February 06, 2019, 10:48:14 AM
Quote from: sm105k on February 06, 2019, 10:31:49 AM
Quote from: bpd1151 on February 06, 2019, 09:55:05 AM
That means sexy man pics of you posing in your banana hammock with the SHO.

But only share those with the ladies. We need more attention to the platform so the ladies know that there are hot men piloting these hot cars or ours.

Bwahahahaha.

But in all seriousness, good luck and continued successes with that venture. Lots of intense dedication, discipline, and training involved in that alone.

Surprised it affords you anytime whatsoever to monkey with the car.

Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk


Don't be surpised if you get those pictures in your inbox BPD!  HAHA. 

I wish more good looking ladies would take interest in our land yachts.  That would be cool.

Sometimes strongman feels like another job.  Between the gym, supplements, time, diet, travel, and just overall body punishment I still actually enjoy it.  Working on/maintaining/detailing/thrashing the SHO is actually therapy for me so I make the time. I get up every morning before 4 am, so I have zero excuse not to keep up everything.     

Thanks for the kind words guys.   

Congratulations on becoming Arizona's Strongest Man and I wish you the best on defending that title! 

I like what you said about having zero excuses.  The hard truth is that if its truly important to us we'll make time.

You are 100% correct. Excuses are lies. I firmly believe in what Jocko Willink preaches.  Discipline Equals Freedom.  The more discipline you are, the more freedom you have. Hold yourself accountable and get after it.

I usually post everyday on my IG with some form of motivation for myself and others.  Check it out.  Instagram @therealamericasstrongestchef

Jocko's videos

https://youtu.be/IdTMDpizis8

https://youtu.be/tOYgiWEoJgs
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: SHOdded on February 06, 2019, 11:39:08 AM
And ... back on topic :D
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: SM105K on February 06, 2019, 11:42:12 AM
Quote from: SHOdded on February 06, 2019, 11:39:08 AM
And ... back on topic :D

yeah, if I can walk on the 17th I will get after installing my IC.
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: StealBlueSho on February 06, 2019, 11:43:03 AM
Did some more datalogging... super impressed with this IC!
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: FoMoCoSHO on March 17, 2019, 04:16:39 PM
Has anyone stuffed one of these in an MKS yet?



Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: Agentlongwood on March 21, 2019, 06:06:13 PM
Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on March 17, 2019, 04:16:39 PM
Has anyone stuffed one of these in an MKS yet?

For real... I want to see if it makes a bigger difference, or a smaller difference.  I can't help but feel like the MKS grill is just massively inferior than the SHO grill in terms of letting air flow through the intercooler.  The split wings means it's blocked right smack in the middle :(
Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: fast1195 on March 21, 2019, 11:40:17 PM
Finally somewhere I can chime in! I fit the Gearhead intercooler into my 13 MKS and just picked it up today.

Long story short, another driver hit me. Insurance covered whole front clip, gearhead intercooler released about that time. Collision shop slapped it in for free because they already had the crash bar off. Shitty situation turned around 360 :D

Decided on a clear bra and ceramic coating... so i had to sit for over a month with the intercooler installed and couldn't test it (to let the paint cure).

Have a Livernois tune, and my butt dyno is very happy. Unfortunately because it was such a long wait, I'm full of "this is wild to drive" joy and dont have any quantitative comparisons yet. Turbo whistle is louder sooner, but haven't been anywhere near heat soak conditions.


I have an SCT from a friend who no longer has his car that I'm looking for a way to unmarry, but planning to put a GearHead tune optimized for the intercooler soon.

Was laying down 12.9s in SE MI last September, I should have a test and tune day coming up in the next month or so...


-B

Title: Re: New Intercooler for Transverse 3.5L Ecoboost
Post by: limited02 on April 23, 2019, 12:29:15 PM
Quote from: fast1195 on March 21, 2019, 11:40:17 PM
Finally somewhere I can chime in! I fit the Gearhead intercooler into my 13 MKS and just picked it up today.

Long story short, another driver hit me. Insurance covered whole front clip, gearhead intercooler released about that time. Collision shop slapped it in for free because they already had the crash bar off. Shitty situation turned around 360 :D

Decided on a clear bra and ceramic coating... so i had to sit for over a month with the intercooler installed and couldn't test it (to let the paint cure).

Have a Livernois tune, and my butt dyno is very happy. Unfortunately because it was such a long wait, I'm full of "this is wild to drive" joy and dont have any quantitative comparisons yet. Turbo whistle is louder sooner, but haven't been anywhere near heat soak conditions.


I have an SCT from a friend who no longer has his car that I'm looking for a way to unmarry, but planning to put a GearHead tune optimized for the intercooler soon.

Was laying down 12.9s in SE MI last September, I should have a test and tune day coming up in the next month or so...


-B
If you don't have the original car to unmarry from, your best bet is to call SCT and pay to have it unlocked.  Have you reached out to LMS to see what can be done to optimize the tune for the new intercooler?  Another option and last I heard, they were offering up to $200 trade in for the old MyCal towards a new MyCal touch.  I believe that'll give you an opportunity to datalog to improve the tune for the intercooler.  Otherwise, GearHead is hard to beat and they've been laying down great numbers.
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