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Hotpipes, Meth Bungs and Nozzles

Started by 802SHO, June 15, 2019, 09:38:05 AM

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802SHO

Quote from: 76fomoco on June 15, 2019, 10:46:36 AM
look at my picture again you will have to account for the hose and clamp.
fyi I started with the m15 nozzle and ajp had me move down to the m5 as it was spraying way too much. but it was a lms tune I started with.
not a perfect conversion but
m5= about 500 ml/min

Ok that explains him saying it was spraying a $*it ton.  Maybe I should downgrade to an M5 since I'll have two but he said he was finally happy with it and here I go adding more nozzles. 

On the fence if I should add another nozzle since I don't need it one bit, at least not in the same location.
IG @802SHO 2010 SHO non PP, Tuned by AJP Turbo, 109 Octane + VP C85 for E30, Ported GH Gen 3 upgraded turbos, Ported 13+ Exhaust Manifolds, Custom FM IC TreadStone TR10C, EPP Hot Pipes, EPP Dual CAI, XDI35 HPFP, Deatschwerks 300C LPFP, Alky Control Methonal Injection, Alky dual nozzle upgrade, Zex Nitrous dual dry shots, Dicunzolo Gen2 torque mounts, MSD Coils, SP542 .026, 160 T, 3bar, Phenolic Spacer, Braille Lightweight Battery, Kirky Lightweight Racing Driver Seat, Catless Downpipes, custom stainless 2.5" double xpipe w/muffler deletes 4" quad tips, UPR Dual Valve Catch Can, 13+ PP Trans Cooler, Econoaid throttle Body Booster, Bravado Tribute 20x9.5 + 32 offset Wheels, Nitto NT555R Front Tires, Continental Extreme Contact DW Rear Tires and all are 275/35/20, H&R Springs all around w/rear cut 1/2", 1" hubcentric wheel spacers m14 1.5 stud/lug conversion, R1 Concepts Geomet slotted/drilled rotors with Heavy Duty Semi Metallic pads, Aeroforce Interceptor Gauge.
Currently World's Fastest Ecoboost SHO
11.063 @ 123.17 MPH!  NED 10/10/20

802SHO

I'm looking and my dipstick looked funny, touched it and it fell off....thats a first
IG @802SHO 2010 SHO non PP, Tuned by AJP Turbo, 109 Octane + VP C85 for E30, Ported GH Gen 3 upgraded turbos, Ported 13+ Exhaust Manifolds, Custom FM IC TreadStone TR10C, EPP Hot Pipes, EPP Dual CAI, XDI35 HPFP, Deatschwerks 300C LPFP, Alky Control Methonal Injection, Alky dual nozzle upgrade, Zex Nitrous dual dry shots, Dicunzolo Gen2 torque mounts, MSD Coils, SP542 .026, 160 T, 3bar, Phenolic Spacer, Braille Lightweight Battery, Kirky Lightweight Racing Driver Seat, Catless Downpipes, custom stainless 2.5" double xpipe w/muffler deletes 4" quad tips, UPR Dual Valve Catch Can, 13+ PP Trans Cooler, Econoaid throttle Body Booster, Bravado Tribute 20x9.5 + 32 offset Wheels, Nitto NT555R Front Tires, Continental Extreme Contact DW Rear Tires and all are 275/35/20, H&R Springs all around w/rear cut 1/2", 1" hubcentric wheel spacers m14 1.5 stud/lug conversion, R1 Concepts Geomet slotted/drilled rotors with Heavy Duty Semi Metallic pads, Aeroforce Interceptor Gauge.
Currently World's Fastest Ecoboost SHO
11.063 @ 123.17 MPH!  NED 10/10/20

5ohSHO

It's not broken it's just broke-in.

76fomoco

Ya Brad made 50 more HP then LMS on 2/3's less meth. LMS M15 nozzle.
2013 PP AJP E30 160 TS, sp542 plugs, 3 bar, PPE catted DP's, GH IC, GH turbos, XDI-35, EPP hot and intake
Best 3-29-21  11.85 with 3000 DA
DA trap best 117.96
E30 = 492 whp, 536 wtq
E30+meth 498 whp, 539 wtq

802SHO

#19
Quote from: 76fomoco on June 15, 2019, 10:57:02 AM
Ya Brad made 50 more HP then LMS on 2/3's less meth. LMS M15 nozzle.

Brad destroyed my Livernois Meth tune.  It was only 12 psi.  His base 93 3 bar 14 psi tune with no meth killed it.  Brad is very good!
IG @802SHO 2010 SHO non PP, Tuned by AJP Turbo, 109 Octane + VP C85 for E30, Ported GH Gen 3 upgraded turbos, Ported 13+ Exhaust Manifolds, Custom FM IC TreadStone TR10C, EPP Hot Pipes, EPP Dual CAI, XDI35 HPFP, Deatschwerks 300C LPFP, Alky Control Methonal Injection, Alky dual nozzle upgrade, Zex Nitrous dual dry shots, Dicunzolo Gen2 torque mounts, MSD Coils, SP542 .026, 160 T, 3bar, Phenolic Spacer, Braille Lightweight Battery, Kirky Lightweight Racing Driver Seat, Catless Downpipes, custom stainless 2.5" double xpipe w/muffler deletes 4" quad tips, UPR Dual Valve Catch Can, 13+ PP Trans Cooler, Econoaid throttle Body Booster, Bravado Tribute 20x9.5 + 32 offset Wheels, Nitto NT555R Front Tires, Continental Extreme Contact DW Rear Tires and all are 275/35/20, H&R Springs all around w/rear cut 1/2", 1" hubcentric wheel spacers m14 1.5 stud/lug conversion, R1 Concepts Geomet slotted/drilled rotors with Heavy Duty Semi Metallic pads, Aeroforce Interceptor Gauge.
Currently World's Fastest Ecoboost SHO
11.063 @ 123.17 MPH!  NED 10/10/20

ZSHO



2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

802SHO

IG @802SHO 2010 SHO non PP, Tuned by AJP Turbo, 109 Octane + VP C85 for E30, Ported GH Gen 3 upgraded turbos, Ported 13+ Exhaust Manifolds, Custom FM IC TreadStone TR10C, EPP Hot Pipes, EPP Dual CAI, XDI35 HPFP, Deatschwerks 300C LPFP, Alky Control Methonal Injection, Alky dual nozzle upgrade, Zex Nitrous dual dry shots, Dicunzolo Gen2 torque mounts, MSD Coils, SP542 .026, 160 T, 3bar, Phenolic Spacer, Braille Lightweight Battery, Kirky Lightweight Racing Driver Seat, Catless Downpipes, custom stainless 2.5" double xpipe w/muffler deletes 4" quad tips, UPR Dual Valve Catch Can, 13+ PP Trans Cooler, Econoaid throttle Body Booster, Bravado Tribute 20x9.5 + 32 offset Wheels, Nitto NT555R Front Tires, Continental Extreme Contact DW Rear Tires and all are 275/35/20, H&R Springs all around w/rear cut 1/2", 1" hubcentric wheel spacers m14 1.5 stud/lug conversion, R1 Concepts Geomet slotted/drilled rotors with Heavy Duty Semi Metallic pads, Aeroforce Interceptor Gauge.
Currently World's Fastest Ecoboost SHO
11.063 @ 123.17 MPH!  NED 10/10/20

ZSHO

#22
Quote from: 802SHO on June 15, 2019, 01:28:46 PM
Quote from: ZSHO on June 15, 2019, 12:21:21 PM
1/8"NPT Bung correct! Don't want to spray to much cause sometimes less is more! Z

https://prometh.com/collections/nozzle-holders/products/npt-straight-nozzle-holder-with-4an-elbow-fitting?variant=18925484965957

https://prometh.com/collections/nozzles

Yes 1/8 NPT.  It's just the Alky nozzles are not long enough to thread into the bung enough.
Shoot Julio an email @ www.Alkycontrols.com ! He can certainly provide you with some insight on what the best alternative. Z

Julio Don • idoxlr8_70@yahoo.com


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

76fomoco

Quote from: ZSHO on June 15, 2019, 02:51:01 PM
Quote from: 802SHO on June 15, 2019, 01:28:46 PM
Quote from: ZSHO on June 15, 2019, 12:21:21 PM
1/8"NPT Bung correct! Don't want to spray to much cause sometimes less is more! Z

https://prometh.com/collections/nozzle-holders/products/npt-straight-nozzle-holder-with-4an-elbow-fitting?variant=18925484965957

https://prometh.com/collections/nozzles

Yes 1/8 NPT.  It's just the Alky nozzles are not long enough to thread into the bung enough.
Shoot Julio an email @ www.Alkycontrols.com ! He can certainly provide you with some insight on what the best alternative. Z

Julio Don • idoxlr8_70@yahoo.com

so the problem is the snow aka the rest of the meth guys use a different nozzle than alky controls does, Not only in the way it is threaded (all 1/8 npt with 24p) but also in the flow rating. the alky kit is by far the better kit but didn't keep flow relations in perspective (literately) with the rest of the performance world. And yes Julio knows the relation to flow of his to the others but will not give it to you. The snow or others are ML/pm and the alky is GPh

these guys cover the conversion rates
https://prometh.com/collections/nozzles
2013 PP AJP E30 160 TS, sp542 plugs, 3 bar, PPE catted DP's, GH IC, GH turbos, XDI-35, EPP hot and intake
Best 3-29-21  11.85 with 3000 DA
DA trap best 117.96
E30 = 492 whp, 536 wtq
E30+meth 498 whp, 539 wtq

802SHO

I did ask Julio about this, I want to say he had been drinking as he seemed in a really good mood but maybe that's just him...he didn't care for the bungs, he said the nozzles don't sit in far enough and I'm better off to drill my own holes plus it's cheaper. 
I think I'm going to install my Hotpipes except the IC to TB and order to M5 nozzles from Alky and drill my own.  And plug the bungs.  I'm not a huge fan of the two bungs especially since they are literally right next to each other.  They should be spread out.  But the pipes look great and I love the bare aluminum look! 
IG @802SHO 2010 SHO non PP, Tuned by AJP Turbo, 109 Octane + VP C85 for E30, Ported GH Gen 3 upgraded turbos, Ported 13+ Exhaust Manifolds, Custom FM IC TreadStone TR10C, EPP Hot Pipes, EPP Dual CAI, XDI35 HPFP, Deatschwerks 300C LPFP, Alky Control Methonal Injection, Alky dual nozzle upgrade, Zex Nitrous dual dry shots, Dicunzolo Gen2 torque mounts, MSD Coils, SP542 .026, 160 T, 3bar, Phenolic Spacer, Braille Lightweight Battery, Kirky Lightweight Racing Driver Seat, Catless Downpipes, custom stainless 2.5" double xpipe w/muffler deletes 4" quad tips, UPR Dual Valve Catch Can, 13+ PP Trans Cooler, Econoaid throttle Body Booster, Bravado Tribute 20x9.5 + 32 offset Wheels, Nitto NT555R Front Tires, Continental Extreme Contact DW Rear Tires and all are 275/35/20, H&R Springs all around w/rear cut 1/2", 1" hubcentric wheel spacers m14 1.5 stud/lug conversion, R1 Concepts Geomet slotted/drilled rotors with Heavy Duty Semi Metallic pads, Aeroforce Interceptor Gauge.
Currently World's Fastest Ecoboost SHO
11.063 @ 123.17 MPH!  NED 10/10/20

76fomoco

Quote from: 802SHO on June 15, 2019, 10:43:47 PM
I did ask Julio about this, I want to say he had been drinking as he seemed in a really good mood but maybe that's just him...he didn't care for the bungs, he said the nozzles don't sit in far enough and I'm better off to drill my own holes plus it's cheaper. 
I think I'm going to install my Hotpipes except the IC to TB and order to M5 nozzles from Alky and drill my own.  And plug the bungs.  I'm not a huge fan of the two bungs especially since they are literally right next to each other.  They should be spread out.  But the pipes look great and I love the bare aluminum look!

Mike at EPP should ask if your going ALKY or snow for the bung. He has been down this road many of time for sure!
2013 PP AJP E30 160 TS, sp542 plugs, 3 bar, PPE catted DP's, GH IC, GH turbos, XDI-35, EPP hot and intake
Best 3-29-21  11.85 with 3000 DA
DA trap best 117.96
E30 = 492 whp, 536 wtq
E30+meth 498 whp, 539 wtq

802SHO

I agree.  It's only asked if I want 1/8 or 1/4 NPT.  No mention of the bung depth which really is after getting them...crucial for nozzle brand.  Overall still pleased but I'll have two plugged meth bungs.  Silly.
IG @802SHO 2010 SHO non PP, Tuned by AJP Turbo, 109 Octane + VP C85 for E30, Ported GH Gen 3 upgraded turbos, Ported 13+ Exhaust Manifolds, Custom FM IC TreadStone TR10C, EPP Hot Pipes, EPP Dual CAI, XDI35 HPFP, Deatschwerks 300C LPFP, Alky Control Methonal Injection, Alky dual nozzle upgrade, Zex Nitrous dual dry shots, Dicunzolo Gen2 torque mounts, MSD Coils, SP542 .026, 160 T, 3bar, Phenolic Spacer, Braille Lightweight Battery, Kirky Lightweight Racing Driver Seat, Catless Downpipes, custom stainless 2.5" double xpipe w/muffler deletes 4" quad tips, UPR Dual Valve Catch Can, 13+ PP Trans Cooler, Econoaid throttle Body Booster, Bravado Tribute 20x9.5 + 32 offset Wheels, Nitto NT555R Front Tires, Continental Extreme Contact DW Rear Tires and all are 275/35/20, H&R Springs all around w/rear cut 1/2", 1" hubcentric wheel spacers m14 1.5 stud/lug conversion, R1 Concepts Geomet slotted/drilled rotors with Heavy Duty Semi Metallic pads, Aeroforce Interceptor Gauge.
Currently World's Fastest Ecoboost SHO
11.063 @ 123.17 MPH!  NED 10/10/20

76fomoco

Quote from: 802SHO on June 15, 2019, 10:55:39 PM
I agree.  It's only asked if I want 1/8 or 1/4 NPT.  No mention of the bung depth which really is after getting them...crucial for nozzle brand.  Overall still pleased but I'll have two plugged meth bungs.  Silly.

That you paid extra to have installed and have to pay to plug. I'm in the same boat. so no poking fun.
for guys going forward do not get the bung and just drill your own hole if your using the alky kit!
2013 PP AJP E30 160 TS, sp542 plugs, 3 bar, PPE catted DP's, GH IC, GH turbos, XDI-35, EPP hot and intake
Best 3-29-21  11.85 with 3000 DA
DA trap best 117.96
E30 = 492 whp, 536 wtq
E30+meth 498 whp, 539 wtq

ZSHO

#28
The bungs seem to close for comfort like a pair of boobs IMO! Shoot Mike an email on your issue! Mike is a good guy. Z  :)

Perhaps bpd1151 Alky dual nozzle setup! Z

https://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,524.0.html


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

shoNoff

Quote from: 802SHO on June 15, 2019, 10:52:32 AM
I'm looking and my dipstick looked funny, touched it and it fell off....thats a first

That's messed up the same exact thing happened to mine. I think it was only like $6 from ford
2013 SHO PP 12.51 @ 110.07 AJP tuned sold
2016 edge sport 13.92 @ 99.4 mph. slow and stock baby mobile