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Re: Hotpipes, Meth Bungs and Nozzles
« Reply #15 on: June 15, 2019, 07:51:02 AM »
look at my picture again you will have to account for the hose and clamp.
fyi I started with the m15 nozzle and ajp had me move down to the m5 as it was spraying way too much. but it was a lms tune I started with.
not a perfect conversion but
m5= about 500 ml/min

Ok that explains him saying it was spraying a $*it ton.  Maybe I should downgrade to an M5 since I'll have two but he said he was finally happy with it and here I go adding more nozzles. 

On the fence if I should add another nozzle since I don't need it one bit, at least not in the same location.
2010 SHO non PP, GH upgraded turbos, GH upgraded IC, EPP Hot Pipes, Alky Control Methonal Injection, Alky dual nozzle upgrade, Zex Nitrous 35 shot, Dicunzolo Gen2 torque mounts, SP542 .028, 160 T, Airaid Intake, 3bar, Thunderstorm Catless Downpipes, custom stainless 2.5" double xpipe w/muffler deletes 4" quad tips, UPR Dual Valve Catch Can, Derale 10000 series 16 row trans cooler, 13+ PP Trans Cooler, Econoaid throttle Body Booster, Mickey Thompson 20x9 SC-5 Wheels, Continental Extreme Contact DW tires F: 245/40/20 R: 275/35/20, H&R Springs all around w/rear cut 1/2", 1" hubcentric wheel spacers m14 1.5 stud/lug conversion, Aeroforce Interceptor Gauge, Tuned by AJP Turbo
Highest Trap Speed 123.22 mph
463awhp 569 awtq mustang dyno 6/13/19
11.526 @ 118.50 NED 10/5/19 full interior +75 shot
11.391 @ 123.22 NED 10/5/19 Driver seat +75 Shot

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Re: Hotpipes, Meth Bungs and Nozzles
« Reply #16 on: June 15, 2019, 07:52:32 AM »
I'm looking and my dipstick looked funny, touched it and it fell off....thats a first
2010 SHO non PP, GH upgraded turbos, GH upgraded IC, EPP Hot Pipes, Alky Control Methonal Injection, Alky dual nozzle upgrade, Zex Nitrous 35 shot, Dicunzolo Gen2 torque mounts, SP542 .028, 160 T, Airaid Intake, 3bar, Thunderstorm Catless Downpipes, custom stainless 2.5" double xpipe w/muffler deletes 4" quad tips, UPR Dual Valve Catch Can, Derale 10000 series 16 row trans cooler, 13+ PP Trans Cooler, Econoaid throttle Body Booster, Mickey Thompson 20x9 SC-5 Wheels, Continental Extreme Contact DW tires F: 245/40/20 R: 275/35/20, H&R Springs all around w/rear cut 1/2", 1" hubcentric wheel spacers m14 1.5 stud/lug conversion, Aeroforce Interceptor Gauge, Tuned by AJP Turbo
Highest Trap Speed 123.22 mph
463awhp 569 awtq mustang dyno 6/13/19
11.526 @ 118.50 NED 10/5/19 full interior +75 shot
11.391 @ 123.22 NED 10/5/19 Driver seat +75 Shot

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Re: Hotpipes, Meth Bungs and Nozzles
« Reply #17 on: June 15, 2019, 07:56:31 AM »
It's not broken it's just broke-in.

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Re: Hotpipes, Meth Bungs and Nozzles
« Reply #18 on: June 15, 2019, 07:57:02 AM »
Ya Brad made 50 more HP then LMS on 2/3's less meth. LMS M15 nozzle.
2013 PP AJP multi tunes, 160 TS plugs, 3 bar, LMS catch can, EPP catted DP's, bridgestone potenza s007a
Best 5-25-19  12.51 @ 111.38 at 3350 DA
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E30 415 WHP and 468 WTQ 70* and 3700 DA on a mustang dyno

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Re: Hotpipes, Meth Bungs and Nozzles
« Reply #19 on: June 15, 2019, 08:08:45 AM »
Ya Brad made 50 more HP then LMS on 2/3's less meth. LMS M15 nozzle.

Brad destroyed my Livernois Meth tune.  It was only 12 psi.  His base 93 3 bar 14 psi tune with no meth killed it.  Brad is very good!
« Last Edit: June 15, 2019, 08:19:35 AM by 802SHO »
2010 SHO non PP, GH upgraded turbos, GH upgraded IC, EPP Hot Pipes, Alky Control Methonal Injection, Alky dual nozzle upgrade, Zex Nitrous 35 shot, Dicunzolo Gen2 torque mounts, SP542 .028, 160 T, Airaid Intake, 3bar, Thunderstorm Catless Downpipes, custom stainless 2.5" double xpipe w/muffler deletes 4" quad tips, UPR Dual Valve Catch Can, Derale 10000 series 16 row trans cooler, 13+ PP Trans Cooler, Econoaid throttle Body Booster, Mickey Thompson 20x9 SC-5 Wheels, Continental Extreme Contact DW tires F: 245/40/20 R: 275/35/20, H&R Springs all around w/rear cut 1/2", 1" hubcentric wheel spacers m14 1.5 stud/lug conversion, Aeroforce Interceptor Gauge, Tuned by AJP Turbo
Highest Trap Speed 123.22 mph
463awhp 569 awtq mustang dyno 6/13/19
11.526 @ 118.50 NED 10/5/19 full interior +75 shot
11.391 @ 123.22 NED 10/5/19 Driver seat +75 Shot

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« Last Edit: June 15, 2019, 09:34:53 AM by ZSHO »

                  

2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

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Re: Hotpipes, Meth Bungs and Nozzles
« Reply #21 on: June 15, 2019, 10:28:46 AM »
1/8"NPT Bung correct! Don't want to spray to much cause sometimes less is more! Z

https://prometh.com/collections/nozzle-holders/products/npt-straight-nozzle-holder-with-4an-elbow-fitting?variant=18925484965957

https://prometh.com/collections/nozzles

Yes 1/8 NPT.  It's just the Alky nozzles are not long enough to thread into the bung enough.
2010 SHO non PP, GH upgraded turbos, GH upgraded IC, EPP Hot Pipes, Alky Control Methonal Injection, Alky dual nozzle upgrade, Zex Nitrous 35 shot, Dicunzolo Gen2 torque mounts, SP542 .028, 160 T, Airaid Intake, 3bar, Thunderstorm Catless Downpipes, custom stainless 2.5" double xpipe w/muffler deletes 4" quad tips, UPR Dual Valve Catch Can, Derale 10000 series 16 row trans cooler, 13+ PP Trans Cooler, Econoaid throttle Body Booster, Mickey Thompson 20x9 SC-5 Wheels, Continental Extreme Contact DW tires F: 245/40/20 R: 275/35/20, H&R Springs all around w/rear cut 1/2", 1" hubcentric wheel spacers m14 1.5 stud/lug conversion, Aeroforce Interceptor Gauge, Tuned by AJP Turbo
Highest Trap Speed 123.22 mph
463awhp 569 awtq mustang dyno 6/13/19
11.526 @ 118.50 NED 10/5/19 full interior +75 shot
11.391 @ 123.22 NED 10/5/19 Driver seat +75 Shot

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Re: Hotpipes, Meth Bungs and Nozzles
« Reply #22 on: June 15, 2019, 11:51:01 AM »
1/8"NPT Bung correct! Don't want to spray to much cause sometimes less is more! Z

https://prometh.com/collections/nozzle-holders/products/npt-straight-nozzle-holder-with-4an-elbow-fitting?variant=18925484965957

https://prometh.com/collections/nozzles


Yes 1/8 NPT.  It's just the Alky nozzles are not long enough to thread into the bung enough.
Shoot Julio an email @ www.Alkycontrols.com ! He can certainly provide you with some insight on what the best alternative. Z

Julio Don • idoxlr8_70@yahoo.com
« Last Edit: June 15, 2019, 01:18:28 PM by ZSHO »

                  

2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

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Re: Hotpipes, Meth Bungs and Nozzles
« Reply #23 on: June 15, 2019, 07:06:10 PM »
1/8"NPT Bung correct! Don't want to spray to much cause sometimes less is more! Z

https://prometh.com/collections/nozzle-holders/products/npt-straight-nozzle-holder-with-4an-elbow-fitting?variant=18925484965957

https://prometh.com/collections/nozzles


Yes 1/8 NPT.  It's just the Alky nozzles are not long enough to thread into the bung enough.
Shoot Julio an email @ www.Alkycontrols.com ! He can certainly provide you with some insight on what the best alternative. Z

Julio Don • idoxlr8_70@yahoo.com


so the problem is the snow aka the rest of the meth guys use a different nozzle than alky controls does, Not only in the way it is threaded (all 1/8 npt with 24p) but also in the flow rating. the alky kit is by far the better kit but didn't keep flow relations in perspective (literately) with the rest of the performance world. And yes Julio knows the relation to flow of his to the others but will not give it to you. The snow or others are ML/pm and the alky is GPh

these guys cover the conversion rates
https://prometh.com/collections/nozzles
2013 PP AJP multi tunes, 160 TS plugs, 3 bar, LMS catch can, EPP catted DP's, bridgestone potenza s007a
Best 5-25-19  12.51 @ 111.38 at 3350 DA
93+ meth 413 whp and 473 wtq 58* and 4020 DA on a mustang dyno
E30 415 WHP and 468 WTQ 70* and 3700 DA on a mustang dyno

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Re: Hotpipes, Meth Bungs and Nozzles
« Reply #24 on: June 15, 2019, 07:43:47 PM »
I did ask Julio about this, I want to say he had been drinking as he seemed in a really good mood but maybe that's just him...he didn't care for the bungs, he said the nozzles don't sit in far enough and I'm better off to drill my own holes plus it's cheaper. 
I think I'm going to install my Hotpipes except the IC to TB and order to M5 nozzles from Alky and drill my own.  And plug the bungs.  I'm not a huge fan of the two bungs especially since they are literally right next to each other.  They should be spread out.  But the pipes look great and I love the bare aluminum look! 
2010 SHO non PP, GH upgraded turbos, GH upgraded IC, EPP Hot Pipes, Alky Control Methonal Injection, Alky dual nozzle upgrade, Zex Nitrous 35 shot, Dicunzolo Gen2 torque mounts, SP542 .028, 160 T, Airaid Intake, 3bar, Thunderstorm Catless Downpipes, custom stainless 2.5" double xpipe w/muffler deletes 4" quad tips, UPR Dual Valve Catch Can, Derale 10000 series 16 row trans cooler, 13+ PP Trans Cooler, Econoaid throttle Body Booster, Mickey Thompson 20x9 SC-5 Wheels, Continental Extreme Contact DW tires F: 245/40/20 R: 275/35/20, H&R Springs all around w/rear cut 1/2", 1" hubcentric wheel spacers m14 1.5 stud/lug conversion, Aeroforce Interceptor Gauge, Tuned by AJP Turbo
Highest Trap Speed 123.22 mph
463awhp 569 awtq mustang dyno 6/13/19
11.526 @ 118.50 NED 10/5/19 full interior +75 shot
11.391 @ 123.22 NED 10/5/19 Driver seat +75 Shot

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Re: Hotpipes, Meth Bungs and Nozzles
« Reply #25 on: June 15, 2019, 07:52:16 PM »
I did ask Julio about this, I want to say he had been drinking as he seemed in a really good mood but maybe that's just him...he didn't care for the bungs, he said the nozzles don't sit in far enough and I'm better off to drill my own holes plus it's cheaper. 
I think I'm going to install my Hotpipes except the IC to TB and order to M5 nozzles from Alky and drill my own.  And plug the bungs.  I'm not a huge fan of the two bungs especially since they are literally right next to each other.  They should be spread out.  But the pipes look great and I love the bare aluminum look!

Mike at EPP should ask if your going ALKY or snow for the bung. He has been down this road many of time for sure!
2013 PP AJP multi tunes, 160 TS plugs, 3 bar, LMS catch can, EPP catted DP's, bridgestone potenza s007a
Best 5-25-19  12.51 @ 111.38 at 3350 DA
93+ meth 413 whp and 473 wtq 58* and 4020 DA on a mustang dyno
E30 415 WHP and 468 WTQ 70* and 3700 DA on a mustang dyno

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Re: Hotpipes, Meth Bungs and Nozzles
« Reply #26 on: June 15, 2019, 07:55:39 PM »
I agree.  It's only asked if I want 1/8 or 1/4 NPT.  No mention of the bung depth which really is after getting them...crucial for nozzle brand.  Overall still pleased but I'll have two plugged meth bungs.  Silly.
2010 SHO non PP, GH upgraded turbos, GH upgraded IC, EPP Hot Pipes, Alky Control Methonal Injection, Alky dual nozzle upgrade, Zex Nitrous 35 shot, Dicunzolo Gen2 torque mounts, SP542 .028, 160 T, Airaid Intake, 3bar, Thunderstorm Catless Downpipes, custom stainless 2.5" double xpipe w/muffler deletes 4" quad tips, UPR Dual Valve Catch Can, Derale 10000 series 16 row trans cooler, 13+ PP Trans Cooler, Econoaid throttle Body Booster, Mickey Thompson 20x9 SC-5 Wheels, Continental Extreme Contact DW tires F: 245/40/20 R: 275/35/20, H&R Springs all around w/rear cut 1/2", 1" hubcentric wheel spacers m14 1.5 stud/lug conversion, Aeroforce Interceptor Gauge, Tuned by AJP Turbo
Highest Trap Speed 123.22 mph
463awhp 569 awtq mustang dyno 6/13/19
11.526 @ 118.50 NED 10/5/19 full interior +75 shot
11.391 @ 123.22 NED 10/5/19 Driver seat +75 Shot

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Re: Hotpipes, Meth Bungs and Nozzles
« Reply #27 on: June 15, 2019, 08:42:11 PM »
I agree.  It's only asked if I want 1/8 or 1/4 NPT.  No mention of the bung depth which really is after getting them...crucial for nozzle brand.  Overall still pleased but I'll have two plugged meth bungs.  Silly.

That you paid extra to have installed and have to pay to plug. I'm in the same boat. so no poking fun.
for guys going forward do not get the bung and just drill your own hole if your using the alky kit!
2013 PP AJP multi tunes, 160 TS plugs, 3 bar, LMS catch can, EPP catted DP's, bridgestone potenza s007a
Best 5-25-19  12.51 @ 111.38 at 3350 DA
93+ meth 413 whp and 473 wtq 58* and 4020 DA on a mustang dyno
E30 415 WHP and 468 WTQ 70* and 3700 DA on a mustang dyno

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Re: Hotpipes, Meth Bungs and Nozzles
« Reply #28 on: June 16, 2019, 03:20:07 AM »
The bungs seem to close for comfort like a pair of boobs IMO! Shoot Mike an email on your issue! Mike is a good guy. Z  :)

Perhaps bpd1151 Alky dual nozzle setup! Z

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Re: Hotpipes, Meth Bungs and Nozzles
« Reply #29 on: June 16, 2019, 06:51:55 AM »
I'm looking and my dipstick looked funny, touched it and it fell off....thats a first

That’s messed up the same exact thing happened to mine. I think it was only like $6 from ford
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