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05/19/2019 MIR Test and Tune
« on: May 19, 2019, 12:03:08 PM »
So tried to get to the track early before temps started to soar... while I did make it before runs started, the temps just didn't want to work out...  In any event.. here are the numbers from today. Initially I was disappointed however, DA was 2200+ and staging lanes were 85F+.. I was seeing 150F+ at the manifold at the start of the runs so not the best weather to be running. Matt was awesome at getting me a revision while I was at the track as there are still some items that needs to be addressed that were definitely impacting the performance. However I did get A LOT of good data from the run so Matt has plenty to work with.

First two runs were trying out a new setting in the tune that upped the torque management in the first two gears.. clearly didn't help as it just bogged off the line.. tried launching at 2000rpms the first run and 2400rpms the second run.. tires didn't even squeal...

Last three runs were with MOST of that torque management removed but still there..I was able to break the tires loose sooo.. we will see. I think the car performs better without the torque management in place.

Car: Full weight and 1/2 tank of E33
DA: 2200+
Temps: 80-85 air temps with 85F+ in the staging lanes

SIDE NOTE: It was MOPAR day at the track MSHS... The hellcat owners pretty much bought out the place of ice... I should have taken a picture as they were lined up with icebags on their superchargers.. and EVERYONE was complaining about the weather and how their ET's were way off.. so it wasn't just me.

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Best of 12.192 @ 113.80 Gearhead E30 Tune - Pre-Turbo/DP/Torque Mount Upgrades.

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Re: 05/19/2019 MIR Test and Tune
« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2019, 12:21:16 PM »
That is hot and very unfortunate weather conditions.  Even still I would also be disappointed.  I think meth would have helped in your efforts in such conditions.  Sounds like the weather was a disadvantage to all so it makes you wonder what you would have ran pre turbo install today.  All in all not terrible
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11.833 @ 116.82 New England Dragway 10/14/18 AJP Turbo No DA Correction

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Re: 05/19/2019 MIR Test and Tune
« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2019, 12:32:43 PM »
That is hot and very unfortunate weather conditions.  Even still I would also be disappointed.  I think meth would have helped in your efforts in such conditions.  Sounds like the weather was a disadvantage to all so it makes you wonder what you would have ran pre turbo install today.  All in all not terrible

The thought of spraying crossed my mind more than a couple times, would have completely negated the weather conditions. Still donít want to deal with it though....

Iím guessing the weather added at least a couple tenths.. considering I ran 12.192 pre-turbo and downpipes... but DA was more than 3000ft less at the time.


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Re: 05/19/2019 MIR Test and Tune
« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2019, 12:52:05 PM »
At least you got to have some fun and get a lot of really good data to comb through and find where improvement can be made.  There's almost always somewhere that improvements can be made.  That DA was terrible too jeezum
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463awhp 569 awtq mustang dyno 6/13/19

11.833 @ 116.82 New England Dragway 10/14/18 AJP Turbo No DA Correction

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Re: 05/19/2019 MIR Test and Tune
« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2019, 12:55:07 PM »
Great SHOwing!
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Re: 05/19/2019 MIR Test and Tune
« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2019, 01:42:06 PM »
still some nice and consistent numbers. I haven't had DA better than 3700' since the new tune with meth so I will see what next week brings.
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Best 5-25-19  12.51 @ 111.38 at 3350 DA
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Re: 05/19/2019 MIR Test and Tune
« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2019, 01:48:56 PM »
You guys are fast for your DA for sure!  I'm always at + or - sea level
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463awhp 569 awtq mustang dyno 6/13/19

11.833 @ 116.82 New England Dragway 10/14/18 AJP Turbo No DA Correction

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Re: 05/19/2019 MIR Test and Tune
« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2019, 01:54:45 PM »
Definitely respectable times considering the DA! Need to acquire the sweet-spot for this new Beast! Z   :thumb:


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Re: 05/19/2019 MIR Test and Tune
« Reply #8 on: May 19, 2019, 02:12:55 PM »
my best time of 12.633 was with 65 deg and 3700 DA on 5.11.19 I would LOVE to do a 60 deg with 0 DA!!
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Re: 05/19/2019 MIR Test and Tune
« Reply #9 on: May 19, 2019, 03:46:11 PM »
You will get it for sure sbs. New set ups take time to dial in. Donít get discouraged. I think thatís a pretty successful day for the first one out. I mean the car basically ran full bolt on stock turbo times and mph first time out in bad air. The set up is completely new for both you and GH. The data you received today will surely help down the road. I see bigger and better things coming from you shortly. Iím guess that DA took away 2/3 tenths and 1/2mph easy.
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Re: 05/19/2019 MIR Test and Tune
« Reply #10 on: May 19, 2019, 03:58:48 PM »
Just working out the kinks... we will get there...

I know there are some areas that need to be addressed in the tuning... and I know that the weather was sub-optimal.

Thinking Matt and I can work out the kinks in the tune, then keep my eyes open for a cooler night to run.

Heat soak was the killer today.




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Re: 05/19/2019 MIR Test and Tune
« Reply #11 on: May 19, 2019, 04:22:06 PM »
Ok... attached are the two time slips.. To prevent me from going down a rabbit whole of compression checks etc to figure out where the lost power is.. what is your take?

Slip on the left was at the same track (same lane too!) but DA was -1388 @ 42F
Slip on the right was at the same track (same lane too!) but DA was +2200 @ 80F

Just on DA alone that would be a 3588ft swing.. not including the heatsoaking issues...

Looking for a sanity check as the turbos put down an extra 60hp since that slip on the left...

Would that much difference in weather/da have THAT much influence?
 
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484awhp/496awtq

Best of 12.192 @ 113.80 Gearhead E30 Tune - Pre-Turbo/DP/Torque Mount Upgrades.

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Re: 05/19/2019 MIR Test and Tune
« Reply #12 on: May 19, 2019, 05:29:40 PM »
Ok... attached are the two time slips.. To prevent me from going down a rabbit whole of compression checks etc to figure out where the lost power is.. what is your take?

Slip on the left was at the same track (same lane too!) but DA was -1388 @ 42F
Slip on the right was at the same track (same lane too!) but DA was +2200 @ 80F

Just on DA alone that would be a 3588ft swing.. not including the heatsoaking issues...

Looking for a sanity check as the turbos put down an extra 60hp since that slip on the left...

Would that much difference in weather/da have THAT much influence?

The NHRA uses a table to convert etís for national indexes. By using that your run today was an 11.92 @ 116.4. Now this would be at sea level let alone -1400 feet. So yes the air killed you buddy. I added the table. When we used to run S/G and S/C around the country your index changed at certain tracks.
« Last Edit: May 19, 2019, 07:42:52 PM by shoNoff »
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