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Meth Injection flow-based failsafe worth it?

Started by Brewineer, March 26, 2019, 05:57:19 PM

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Brewineer

I'm trying to pick a meth kit for my SHO and am agonizing over getting a flow based failsafe.

I've read a lot of great things about the Alky Controls kit, and it can be installed behind the bumper instead of the trunk.

AEM's flow rate failsafe device could be added to that for another $275, though the reviews are pretty bad for the reliability of the system, so I'm hesitant.

Aquamist HSF-3 has a integrated turbine based flow meter as a standard part of the system. It can use Fuel Pressure in addition to MAP for mapping the injection curve. Also it utilizes a PWM controlled valve for producing linear flow rates.

http://www.aquamist-direct.com/806-063-hfs3-v3-1-system-a-truly-progressive-system-utilising-pwm-valve/

The Aquamist seems like a great deal and is about the same price as the Alky Controls system.
Sadly, the warranty is voided if you install the pump outside the cabin or trunk.

Subsequently:

1. Are flow-meter based fail-safes worth it or not all that necessary? are there other good failsafe methods to use?
2. Is FRP and MAP based injection a big advantage over MAP only based injection?

I guess it should be noted that this is for a DD and I want something reliable long term that is relatively low maintenance.
2013 Gem Green Metallic SHO w/PP, Unleashed 90P Tune, AJP Boost Regulator, UPR Dual Catch Can, Air Springs, Tow Hitch
Next steps: 3bar Meth injection

SHOdded

All I can say is "Alky all the way"!  Yes, pumps do need to be rebuilt every few years, can't avoid that.  As to that failsafe, Julio will def give you good guidance, as will many DD members here who cavort with meth injection :D
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

802SHO

Quote from: SHOdded on March 26, 2019, 07:58:25 PM
All I can say is "Alky all the way"!  Yes, pumps do need to be rebuilt every few years, can't avoid that.  As to that failsafe, Julio will def give you good guidance, as will many DD members here who cavort with meth injection :D

Issue free operation here with my Alky! 
IG @802SHO 2010 SHO non PP, Tuned by AJP Turbo, 109 Octane + VP C85 for E30, Ported GH Gen 3 upgraded turbos, Ported 13+ Exhaust Manifolds, Custom FM IC TreadStone TR10C, EPP Hot Pipes, EPP Dual CAI, XDI35 HPFP, Deatschwerks 300C LPFP, Alky Control Methonal Injection, Alky dual nozzle upgrade, Zex Nitrous dual dry shots, Dicunzolo Gen2 torque mounts, MSD Coils, SP542 .026, 160 T, 3bar, Phenolic Spacer, Braille Lightweight Battery, Kirky Lightweight Racing Driver Seat, Catless Downpipes, custom stainless 2.5" double xpipe w/muffler deletes 4" quad tips, UPR Dual Valve Catch Can, 13+ PP Trans Cooler, Econoaid throttle Body Booster, Bravado Tribute 20x9.5 + 32 offset Wheels, Nitto NT555R Front Tires, Continental Extreme Contact DW Rear Tires and all are 275/35/20, H&R Springs all around w/rear cut 1/2", 1" hubcentric wheel spacers m14 1.5 stud/lug conversion, R1 Concepts Geomet slotted/drilled rotors with Heavy Duty Semi Metallic pads, Aeroforce Interceptor Gauge.
Currently World's Fastest Ecoboost SHO
11.063 @ 123.17 MPH!  NED 10/10/20

bpd1151

Yep, same here. Alky-Controls, and it's owner Julio, have been nothing short of incredible when it comes time for questions, and/or guidance on its' systems respective use.

Yet alone the quality of the kit overall, in comparison to fellow competitors.

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76fomoco

Alky-Controls, and it's owner Julio! just put it on my ride and getting Julio on the phone is super easy. even if you have to leave a message he will get back very soon. I have not had a pump go down but I plan on replacement of the pump every year as just a maintenance item for the price of it. and keeping the other pump is stock for the rotation. 
2013 PP AJP E30 160 TS, sp542 plugs, 3 bar, PPE catted DP's, GH IC, GH turbos, XDI-35, EPP hot and intake
Best 3-29-21  11.85 with 3000 DA
DA trap best 117.96
E30 = 492 whp, 536 wtq
E30+meth 498 whp, 539 wtq

ZSHO

#5
Hmm.The last time I spoke to Julio he recently did an Alky kit install in the trunk area compartment IIRC!
Customer service is Top notch and second to none IMHO. 
Oops that reminds me need to send the old pump back for rebuild! Z 


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|