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Well, this may be it, the last failure. P0301... Blown rings/motor

Started by TopherSho, March 09, 2019, 11:34:31 AM

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ZSHO

#15
I would stick with the Oem Motorcrafts as far as gaskets IMO! Don't need the slightest imperfections when compared to some aftermarket brands. Z

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SHOdded

#16
Yup, OEM.  VC gaskets may be a bit suspect compared to head gaskets, but overall quite reliable.

I dunno if Livernois has upgrades for the gaskets + ARP studs available separately from the big block package.  Could ask them maybe.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

TopherSho

ok oems it will be if that's all that is wrong.  as always .. thnx everyone
2010 non-pp, 98k miles, 3-bar,  .026 plugs, SNOW-KIT STG1, AJPTurbu tune#35, 15.5+psi
Best 0-60 public road 4.35s
Best 1/4 of 12.61 no DA correction

TopherSho

*if* the issues is just the head gasket.. should i do a water pump? Cars at 70k..
2010 non-pp, 98k miles, 3-bar,  .026 plugs, SNOW-KIT STG1, AJPTurbu tune#35, 15.5+psi
Best 0-60 public road 4.35s
Best 1/4 of 12.61 no DA correction

Sabtaj1

Quote from: TopherSho on March 13, 2019, 10:19:43 PM
*if* the issues is just the head gasket.. should i do a water pump? Cars at 70k..

If you have it tore down that far than I would forsure.  And check the timing chain as well for stretch.  see how many clicks the tensioner is out
13 Eco flex.

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TopherSho

#20
It is in the shop for the 900$ 'diagnosis'  ... sigh 

*IF* we can be sure the cylinders are fine; and the heads are fine; and that we can do both head gaskets with the water pump for 3000$ that's what will happen.  This is the last repair though.
2010 non-pp, 98k miles, 3-bar,  .026 plugs, SNOW-KIT STG1, AJPTurbu tune#35, 15.5+psi
Best 0-60 public road 4.35s
Best 1/4 of 12.61 no DA correction

jman


2010 - Unleashed Tune - Corsa Exhaust - 275/40-R20 - H&R Springs

TopherSho

Quote from: jman on March 25, 2019, 11:17:21 AM
Did you do the compression test?

They will do it.  I don't want to deal with it ..
2010 non-pp, 98k miles, 3-bar,  .026 plugs, SNOW-KIT STG1, AJPTurbu tune#35, 15.5+psi
Best 0-60 public road 4.35s
Best 1/4 of 12.61 no DA correction

SHOdded

2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

TopherSho

Quote from: SHOdded on March 25, 2019, 03:08:15 PM
Best of luck!

I am so confused.  This car makes no sense ...  all three bank1 injectors are leaking.  how?  ... all at one time INSTANTLY??  makes zero sense.  compression test came out fine.. injector test hard failed on 1,3 and 5 was meh.

I give up on trying to understand ... done-zo..baffled...utterly baffled...
2010 non-pp, 98k miles, 3-bar,  .026 plugs, SNOW-KIT STG1, AJPTurbu tune#35, 15.5+psi
Best 0-60 public road 4.35s
Best 1/4 of 12.61 no DA correction

jman

I'll take that outcome 100 times before a blown head gasket or damaged valve...

2010 - Unleashed Tune - Corsa Exhaust - 275/40-R20 - H&R Springs

MiWiAu

Quote from: TopherSho on March 25, 2019, 08:47:10 PM
Quote from: SHOdded on March 25, 2019, 03:08:15 PM
Best of luck!

I am so confused.  This car makes no sense ...  all three bank1 injectors are leaking.  how?  ... all at one time INSTANTLY??  makes zero sense.  compression test came out fine.. injector test hard failed on 1,3 and 5 was meh.

I give up on trying to understand ... done-zo..baffled...utterly baffled...


Just curious, how many miles are you at? And do you do any regular fuel system cleaning?

After my stuck injector (around 34k miles maybe?), I ran 2 stroke oil in every tank for 2 years (probably close to 40k miles). Never had a repeat, but stopped with the mix because it was too much of a pain for my wife when we swapped vehicles. I just ran a bottle of Amsoil PI through the last tank. Don't really notice a difference but hoped it might keep the injectors clean. Kinda paranoid now after first failure around 34k miles. Still not sure if the stuff is snake oil or what, but it makes me feel like I'm doing something preventative.


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2013 XSport

TopherSho

Quote from: jman on March 25, 2019, 08:49:55 PM
I'll take that outcome 100 times before a blown head gasket or damaged valve...

wierd ... but yeah i guess i will take it.
2010 non-pp, 98k miles, 3-bar,  .026 plugs, SNOW-KIT STG1, AJPTurbu tune#35, 15.5+psi
Best 0-60 public road 4.35s
Best 1/4 of 12.61 no DA correction

TopherSho

Quote from: MiWiAu on March 25, 2019, 09:02:35 PM
Quote from: TopherSho on March 25, 2019, 08:47:10 PM
Quote from: SHOdded on March 25, 2019, 03:08:15 PM
Best of luck!

I am so confused.  This car makes no sense ...  all three bank1 injectors are leaking.  how?  ... all at one time INSTANTLY??  makes zero sense.  compression test came out fine.. injector test hard failed on 1,3 and 5 was meh.

I give up on trying to understand ... done-zo..baffled...utterly baffled...


Just curious, how many miles are you at? And do you do any regular fuel system cleaning?

After my stuck injector (around 34k miles maybe?), I ran 2 stroke oil in every tank for 2 years (probably close to 40k miles). Never had a repeat, but stopped with the mix because it was too much of a pain for my wife when we swapped vehicles. I just ran a bottle of Amsoil PI through the last tank. Don't really notice a difference but hoped it might keep the injectors clean. Kinda paranoid now after first failure around 34k miles. Still not sure if the stuff is snake oil or what, but it makes me feel like I'm doing something preventative.


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I tend to avoid additives, i did run a bottle of injector cleaner right when i bought it with 45k on it..  ran half a bottle in tank one and the other half in tank 2.  thats it.  im at 70k now
2010 non-pp, 98k miles, 3-bar,  .026 plugs, SNOW-KIT STG1, AJPTurbu tune#35, 15.5+psi
Best 0-60 public road 4.35s
Best 1/4 of 12.61 no DA correction

SHOdded

Injectors do fail.

1, 3 are bank 1, 5 is bank 2.

Most people find only 1 bank failing.  Make sure they replace ALL 6.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!