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Torque converter is Bad, Pump cracked

Started by irondoor19, February 19, 2019, 06:37:02 PM

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irondoor19

s*** SHO again,  YEA I have been absent...
At the dealer getting the oil leak fixed, (under warranty)
Lo and behold the torque converter is junk and
pump has a crack in it...can not catch a break,
Time for a trans and converter upgrade....! ..?
2010 Lincoln MKS, BONE Stock for Now, 2014 3.7L Police, Drop IN K&N,

bpd1151

You've by far, had the worse luck that I can readily recall with this platform.

Goodness.

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AJP turbo

Quote from: bpd1151 on February 19, 2019, 07:55:56 PM
You've by far, had the worse luck that I can readily recall with this platform.

Goodness.

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Well irondoor or that one younger guy with the flex or maybe even topher!

Well that sucks
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405whp/520tq
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TopherSho

Quote from: AJP turbo on February 19, 2019, 08:31:21 PM
Quote from: bpd1151 on February 19, 2019, 07:55:56 PM
You've by far, had the worse luck that I can readily recall with this platform.

Goodness.

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Well irondoor or that one younger guy with the flex or maybe even topher!

Well that sucks

Ooh ooh!  I haven't broke that yet! .. (yet...)

Tough break... i know how it feels sir..  when it runs great its *amazing* .. but dammit it keeps breaking!
2010 non-pp, 98k miles, 3-bar,  .026 plugs, SNOW-KIT STG1, AJPTurbu tune#35, 15.5+psi
Best 0-60 public road 4.35s
Best 1/4 of 12.61 no DA correction

SHOdded

Racing puts stress on stuff :)  Where is the oil leak coming from?  Turbos, feed lines, ...?

Yeah the TCs have been saying goodbye.  I think the 6F50 and 55 share the same part number for 2010-12 MYs!  Dunno if that means the innards are the same.

Converter Assy Select vehicle options to narrow down result
Ford 9E9Z-7902-B    Production Date: 06/2009-02/2012
9E9Z-7902-B
Converter Assy
184K

Base Number:   7902
Callout Name:   7902
Replaced by:   9E9Z-7902-BRM
$282.55$264.96
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Ford AA5Z-7902-A   Production Date: 06/2009-05/2010
AA5Z-7902-A
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4 Bolt Converter

Base Number:   7902
Callout Name:   7902
Replaced by:   AA5Z-7902-ARM
$420.48$360.13
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AA5Z-7902-ARM  Production Date: 06/2009-05/2010
Converter Assy
Remanufactured

Callout Name:   7902
$420.48$360.13
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So far the only real upgrade is a) fluid and b) the Sonax Zip Kit  Plenty of pie in the sky promises if you are inclined to believe them.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

irondoor19

Quote from: SHOdded on February 20, 2019, 01:30:39 AM
Racing puts stress on stuff :)  Where is the oil leak coming from?  Turbos, feed lines, ...?

Oil Leak is from the timing cover, so that was from day one of the engine install, the
dealer has been wonderful, up until the list of additional items they want to sell me,
along with the warranty issue. Turbos are fine, And after all that, my head is spinning...
2010 Lincoln MKS, BONE Stock for Now, 2014 3.7L Police, Drop IN K&N,

StealBlueSho

Quote from: irondoor19 on February 20, 2019, 10:36:10 AM
Quote from: SHOdded on February 20, 2019, 01:30:39 AM
Racing puts stress on stuff :)  Where is the oil leak coming from?  Turbos, feed lines, ...?

Oil Leak is from the timing cover, so that was from day one of the engine install, the
dealer has been wonderful, up until the list of additional items they want to sell me,
along with the warranty issue. Turbos are fine, And after all that, my head is spinning...

Circle D has a slightly upgraded TC and Matt Robinson has a billet upgrade coming out in 8-10 weeks? You would need to email him...

SHOdded

The Circle D will not help your 1/4 mile times, but no idea on the beating it can take.

Curious to see what Gearhead produces for the TC.  This will be a "moving" part, so fingers crossed it works out.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

StealBlueSho

Quote from: SHOdded on February 20, 2019, 07:46:57 PM
The Circle D will not help your 1/4 mile times, but no idea on the beating it can take.

Curious to see what Gearhead produces for the TC.  This will be a "moving" part, so fingers crossed it works out.


Matt said a Billet Multi Disc Torque Converter and better coupled at WOT so the converter has to do less working... according to him.. 6-8 weeks out... should be strong enough to hold well over 500hp I am assuming..

802SHO

Quote from: StealBlueSho on February 20, 2019, 07:58:53 PM
Quote from: SHOdded on February 20, 2019, 07:46:57 PM
The Circle D will not help your 1/4 mile times, but no idea on the beating it can take.

Curious to see what Gearhead produces for the TC.  This will be a "moving" part, so fingers crossed it works out.


Matt said a Billet Multi Disc Torque Converter and better coupled at WOT so the converter has to do less working... according to him.. 6-8 weeks out... should be strong enough to hold well over 500hp I am assuming..

Man this just keeps getting better and better!  Matt Robinson to the rescue again! 
IG @802SHO 2010 SHO non PP, Tuned by AJP Turbo, 109 Octane + VP C85 for E30, Ported GH Gen 3 upgraded turbos, Ported 13+ Exhaust Manifolds, Custom FM IC TreadStone TR10C, EPP Hot Pipes, EPP Dual CAI, XDI35 HPFP, Deatschwerks 300C LPFP, Alky Control Methonal Injection, Alky dual nozzle upgrade, Zex Nitrous dual dry shots, Dicunzolo Gen2 torque mounts, MSD Coils, SP542 .026, 160 T, 3bar, Phenolic Spacer, Braille Lightweight Battery, Kirky Lightweight Racing Driver Seat, Catless Downpipes, custom stainless 2.5" double xpipe w/muffler deletes 4" quad tips, UPR Dual Valve Catch Can, 13+ PP Trans Cooler, Econoaid throttle Body Booster, Bravado Tribute 20x9.5 + 32 offset Wheels, Nitto NT555R Front Tires, Continental Extreme Contact DW Rear Tires and all are 275/35/20, H&R Springs all around w/rear cut 1/2", 1" hubcentric wheel spacers m14 1.5 stud/lug conversion, R1 Concepts Geomet slotted/drilled rotors with Heavy Duty Semi Metallic pads, Aeroforce Interceptor Gauge.
Currently World's Fastest Ecoboost SHO
11.063 @ 123.17 MPH!  NED 10/10/20

bpd1151



Quote from: 802SHO on February 20, 2019, 09:08:49 PMMan this just keeps getting better and better!  Matt Robinson to the rescue again!

It is refreshing to see another vendor stepping up and fabricating product for the platform, and picking up the torch so to speak, where other vendors may have left off.

Odd to wrap my head around the fact that my SHO is 9yrs old, and that an IC upgrade has just now recently been released.

Kudos indeed.

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abs

The 6F55 torque converter mounts the flywheel with 4 bolts and the 6F50 torque converter has only 3.  The parts are definitely different.  There was also some reference by Ford to number of internal modifications of the 6F55 torque converter.  If you are going to install a new one, make sure you get the right part.  Also, these converters are designed to have some allowed "slip" during torque converter clutch lockup and they use a specialty carbon fiber material to allow this.  Apparently the material was first developed by GM and then, I assume, Ford got access to it as part of the collaboration on the transmission design between the 6T70/75 and the 6F50/55.  So, be careful to make sure that any aftermarket converter has the proper type of clutch material available . . .

SHOdded

What year torque converter are you referring to, abs?  Is the difference present in all MYs of the SHO?
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

irondoor19

And a pic from the top of the converter looking at the destroyed Ring
Bottom Ring supposed to be completely gone, will drain and take a pic next Week
2010 Lincoln MKS, BONE Stock for Now, 2014 3.7L Police, Drop IN K&N,

irondoor19

Well it's not the pump correct the gear inside the tranny and who knows What else.. so new rebuild remanufactured tranny  from
XP...Damn my life sucks
2010 Lincoln MKS, BONE Stock for Now, 2014 3.7L Police, Drop IN K&N,