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Lower Deflector!

Started by ZSHO, February 09, 2019, 08:01:15 PM

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ZSHO

I noticed the Front Lower Deflector located right under the Front Bumper area does not provide a sufficient seal on the bottom sides of the vehicle and acts as a cleavage instead,while letting water intrusion and such contaminants enter the Undercarriage structure of the vehicle..

Has anyone tried Sealing the small exposed sections with some (PVC) Polyvinyl Chloride type plastic material for a better overall seal!!
This was discovered while trying to remove my ALKY PUMP the other day..

The part in Question is pictured below..Thanks. Z






https://parts.levittownfordparts.com/oem-parts/ford-lower-deflector-ag1z8327a/?c=Zz1ib2R5JnM9cmFkaWF0b3Itc3VwcG9ydCZpPUpOMTAwMzE1JnI9NyZhPWZvcmQmbz10YXVydXMmeT0yMDEzJnQ9c2hvJmU9My01bC12Ni1nYXM%3D


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

shaundizzle15

Funny you mention this, I haven't tried to seal it however I was thinking about a one piece lower cover. Essentially something that would remove that piece and the piece that covers the oil filter etc, with one streamlined piece. Seemed like it would help aero and prevent the contamination your talking about.
Hockey/Golf/Car geek, Beagle loving, and totally comfortable with it.
Tuxedo Black nonPP 2013 SHO traded in
Shadow Black nonPP 2016 SHO
VTA, and tuned by GH

ZSHO

#2
I was able to obtain a PIC for reference,right under the Reservoir Tank and also Under the Drivers side there is a Good portion of the (Under cover) exposed to the Driveway Floor letting water & such contaminants enter the under carriage of the vehicle.

The point i'm trying to make is for anyone running Methanol Injection as the Meth Pump is more exposed and susceptible to water intrusion even with Condom sleeve of the pump on could ultimately lead to failure IMO!  Z




2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

Sabtaj1

I had my meth pump mounted up inside the bumper on my flex near the washer res.  I would recommend finding a better mounting option.  I had my pumps fail twice mounted there.  Second time it happened I was tuned a little hot on e85 mix and blew 4 large holes in the block and had a whole piston just sitting on top of the PTU when I dropped the engine.  It was cute....  Maybe look into making some type of enclosure for it.  I wish I would have made something. 
13 Eco flex.

Stainless works non cat DP/ MRT axle back/ Airaid cai/ 170 T-stat/ 3 bar map/ 1 step colder plugs/ snow stage 3/ hot pipes w/TIAL BOV/ torrie tuned-SCT/

ZSHO

#4
To Cold out now,but do have some extra PVC Plastic lying around and will put it to good use. Z   :)


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

autobahn terror

Quote from: Sabtaj1 on February 11, 2019, 05:02:47 AM
I had my meth pump mounted up inside the bumper on my flex near the washer res.  I would recommend finding a better mounting option.  I had my pumps fail twice mounted there.  Second time it happened I was tuned a little hot on e85 mix and blew 4 large holes in the block and had a whole piston just sitting on top of the PTU when I dropped the engine.  It was cute....  Maybe look into making some type of enclosure for it.  I wish I would have made something.

Not to revel in your misfortune or anything, but do you have some pictures of the carnage?

2014 PP, Dicunzolo Gen2 Mounts, Gear Head Intercooler, EcoPowerParts Charge Pipes w/Meth Bung @1GPH, Hennessy KnN CAI W/RECIRC, Alky controls meth injection, Lightly Ported Intake drilled and tapped for Port Meth Injection 1GPH per Cylinder, XDI EVO HPFP, Deathwerks 340LPH intank LPFP, ATP Turbos, EPP Catless DownPipes, Corsa CAT Back, 160TSTAT, 3BAR MAP, Stock Ignition coils, SP542 plugs .028, UPR Catch Can, MEGAN Coilovers,  Power Stop Z23 Brake Kit, 93octane Dynotune @ 430AWHP/430AWTQ...Soon to be much more

Sabtaj1

#6


Plus holes all over the oil pan area.  Damn thing still ran too.  LOL  was just a little shaky but you woulda thought it was a diesel with hoe much oil ended up coming out of it. 
13 Eco flex.

Stainless works non cat DP/ MRT axle back/ Airaid cai/ 170 T-stat/ 3 bar map/ 1 step colder plugs/ snow stage 3/ hot pipes w/TIAL BOV/ torrie tuned-SCT/

TopherSho

Quote from: Sabtaj1 on February 11, 2019, 10:09:33 AM


Plus holes all over the oil pan area.  Damn thing still ran too.  LOL  was just a little shaky but you woulda thought it was a diesel with hoe much oil ended up coming out of it.

....... wwooooooowwwww.... :(
2010 non-pp, 98k miles, 3-bar,  .026 plugs, SNOW-KIT STG1, AJPTurbu tune#35, 15.5+psi
Best 0-60 public road 4.35s
Best 1/4 of 12.61 no DA correction

TopherSho

Quote from: Sabtaj1 on February 11, 2019, 10:09:33 AM


Plus holes all over the oil pan area.  Damn thing still ran too.  LOL  was just a little shaky but you woulda thought it was a diesel with hoe much oil ended up coming out of it.

Now I HAVE to ask, who was the tuner?  PM me if you don't feel going public.  We all know that pre-DEt is bad,  but your timing must have been insanely high and did not compensate for ping when it detected it.  that is CRAZY bad levels of detonation to chuck the whole piston cap out the side...
2010 non-pp, 98k miles, 3-bar,  .026 plugs, SNOW-KIT STG1, AJPTurbu tune#35, 15.5+psi
Best 0-60 public road 4.35s
Best 1/4 of 12.61 no DA correction

SM105K

Quote from: TopherSho on February 11, 2019, 10:49:25 AM
Quote from: Sabtaj1 on February 11, 2019, 10:09:33 AM


Plus holes all over the oil pan area.  Damn thing still ran too.  LOL  was just a little shaky but you woulda thought it was a diesel with hoe much oil ended up coming out of it.

Now I HAVE to ask, who was the tuner?  PM me if you don't feel going public.  We all know that pre-DEt is bad,  but your timing must have been insanely high and did not compensate for ping when it detected it.  that is CRAZY bad levels of detonation to chuck the whole piston cap out the side...

Exactly why I refuse to use meth as secondary fuel system.  I learned my lesson many years ago with Nitrous.  Lost a fuel solenoid on a kit and ended up losing a couple of pistons.  Thank God it was just a SBE 302 with AFR Heads and a Nitrous cam, so it wasn't expensive to swap and replace the parts, it just cost me a grand because I lost the race. 
"M" 2013 SHO PP | AJPTurbo E30 Tune | FS HPFP | Stock IC with Ice Water DIY Sprayer | PPE Downpipes | Custom Magnaflow Resonator | 3rd Cat Delete | Derale Upgraded Trans Cooler | Dicunzolo Gen2 Trans Mounts| EPP Noisemaker Eliminator | MSD Coil Over Plugs | SP-542's | UPR Dual Valve Catch Can | K&N Drop In | Power Stop Slotted and Drilled Rotors with Stock PP Pads | H&R Springs  | AVS Flush Deflector | 802SHO Custom Splitter | Duraflex Chin Spoiler | Curva Concept C7's | Continental DWS06 Extreme Contact Rubber | 411 HP and 546 TQ |

"The Fukus" 2013 Focus ST | Boomba BOV | FSWerks Short Shifter | Power Stop Brakes | Continental DWS06 Extreme Contact Rubber |

ZSHO

I was curious if anyone can see the ^^^ PICS kindly posted by Sabtaj1! TIA.Z
I tried to restore any PB PICS!




2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

SHOdded

No problems here.  PB has stopped preventing people from seeing pics, watermarking them instead.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

TopherSho

Quote from: sm105k on February 11, 2019, 11:21:47 AM
Quote from: TopherSho on February 11, 2019, 10:49:25 AM
Quote from: Sabtaj1 on February 11, 2019, 10:09:33 AM


Plus holes all over the oil pan area.  Damn thing still ran too.  LOL  was just a little shaky but you woulda thought it was a diesel with hoe much oil ended up coming out of it.

Now I HAVE to ask, who was the tuner?  PM me if you don't feel going public.  We all know that pre-DEt is bad,  but your timing must have been insanely high and did not compensate for ping when it detected it.  that is CRAZY bad levels of detonation to chuck the whole piston cap out the side...

Exactly why I refuse to use meth as secondary fuel system.  I learned my lesson many years ago with Nitrous.  Lost a fuel solenoid on a kit and ended up losing a couple of pistons.  Thank God it was just a SBE 302 with AFR Heads and a Nitrous cam, so it wasn't expensive to swap and replace the parts, it just cost me a grand because I lost the race.

With Brads tune I am not as concerned about sudden meth loss.  IIRC unless you have modified the spark behavior (how much to drop on knock;  how quick to drop; how fast to try to recover) the ECU should stop catastrophic damage with just meth.   With the meth i only run 4-5 degrees more timing,  if it drops octane suddenly i suspect the ECU would correct it extremely fast.  Brad would need to comment more ..
2010 non-pp, 98k miles, 3-bar,  .026 plugs, SNOW-KIT STG1, AJPTurbu tune#35, 15.5+psi
Best 0-60 public road 4.35s
Best 1/4 of 12.61 no DA correction

ZSHO

I was curious how many of you running Meth in the colder Frigid winter months!
I might start a separate Topic on this discussion! Z


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

SM105K

#14
Quote from: TopherSho on February 11, 2019, 01:52:51 PM
Quote from: sm105k on February 11, 2019, 11:21:47 AM
Quote from: TopherSho on February 11, 2019, 10:49:25 AM
Quote from: Sabtaj1 on February 11, 2019, 10:09:33 AM


Plus holes all over the oil pan area.  Damn thing still ran too.  LOL  was just a little shaky but you woulda thought it was a diesel with hoe much oil ended up coming out of it.

After buying the intercooler, and then the Extreme HPFP down the road...the only thing that would interest me in meth is cleaning the valves.
Now I HAVE to ask, who was the tuner?  PM me if you don't feel going public.  We all know that pre-DEt is bad,  but your timing must have been insanely high and did not compensate for ping when it detected it.  that is CRAZY bad levels of detonation to chuck the whole piston cap out the side...

Exactly why I refuse to use meth as secondary fuel system.  I learned my lesson many years ago with Nitrous.  Lost a fuel solenoid on a kit and ended up losing a couple of pistons.  Thank God it was just a SBE 302 with AFR Heads and a Nitrous cam, so it wasn't expensive to swap and replace the parts, it just cost me a grand because I lost the race.

With Brads tune I am not as concerned about sudden meth loss.  IIRC unless you have modified the spark behavior (how much to drop on knock;  how quick to drop; how fast to try to recover) the ECU should stop catastrophic damage with just meth.   With the meth i only run 4-5 degrees more timing,  if it drops octane suddenly i suspect the ECU would correct it extremely fast.  Brad would need to comment more ..


With purchase of the GH IC and an new Extreme HPFP, would meth even be needed anymore except for the valve cleaning properties?
"M" 2013 SHO PP | AJPTurbo E30 Tune | FS HPFP | Stock IC with Ice Water DIY Sprayer | PPE Downpipes | Custom Magnaflow Resonator | 3rd Cat Delete | Derale Upgraded Trans Cooler | Dicunzolo Gen2 Trans Mounts| EPP Noisemaker Eliminator | MSD Coil Over Plugs | SP-542's | UPR Dual Valve Catch Can | K&N Drop In | Power Stop Slotted and Drilled Rotors with Stock PP Pads | H&R Springs  | AVS Flush Deflector | 802SHO Custom Splitter | Duraflex Chin Spoiler | Curva Concept C7's | Continental DWS06 Extreme Contact Rubber | 411 HP and 546 TQ |

"The Fukus" 2013 Focus ST | Boomba BOV | FSWerks Short Shifter | Power Stop Brakes | Continental DWS06 Extreme Contact Rubber |