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PTU blew.. (confirmed PTU now)

Started by TopherSho, August 28, 2018, 07:22:30 PM

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TopherSho

Quote from: SHOdded on August 28, 2018, 08:26:31 PM
I think the ptu failed tbh.  Has happened to another sho owner recently, goes by CHOPPA on shoforum. 

At least the acle didnt pop out at speed :P. Hope warranty covers the work.

I hope to get some still installed pics...
2010 non-pp, 98k miles, 3-bar,  .026 plugs, SNOW-KIT STG1, AJPTurbu tune#35, 15.5+psi
Best 0-60 public road 4.35s
Best 1/4 of 12.61 no DA correction

TopherSho

Quote from: ZSHO on August 28, 2018, 08:29:13 PM
Agreed with SHOdded ^^^ The PTU Fluid alone will smell for miles.  Z

Sooooo gross
2010 non-pp, 98k miles, 3-bar,  .026 plugs, SNOW-KIT STG1, AJPTurbu tune#35, 15.5+psi
Best 0-60 public road 4.35s
Best 1/4 of 12.61 no DA correction

Quinid

Quote from: TopherSho on August 28, 2018, 07:59:53 PM
Quote from: SHOme on August 28, 2018, 07:49:25 PM
That's because they wanted to install your new tranny.

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Yup, hope my aftermarket ultra platinum warranty is still in effect ...

Are you going to remove that methanol injection and tune before you attempt that warranty claim?
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SHOme

I was fortunate enough to lose a PTU as well in my 2010.  Car stunk fo a few weeks.  That was covered by the certified Ford used car warranty. 

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TopherSho

#19
Quote from: Quinid on August 28, 2018, 08:36:30 PM
Quote from: TopherSho on August 28, 2018, 07:59:53 PM
Quote from: SHOme on August 28, 2018, 07:49:25 PM
That's because they wanted to install your new tranny.

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Yup, hope my aftermarket ultra platinum warranty is still in effect ...

Are you going to remove that methanol injection and tune before you attempt that warranty claim?

Na.  There was not time really to de-prep it... And the kit is in the trunk and the nozzle UNDER the rubber hotpipe.   If all he does is look at it on the lift and walk around  like I suspect he won't see anything.  All lines are sleeved, and I have no being mods ..

The only catch will be the TCU.. if it requires flashing the ECU to mate to the TCU I will have some 'splaining to do...
2010 non-pp, 98k miles, 3-bar,  .026 plugs, SNOW-KIT STG1, AJPTurbu tune#35, 15.5+psi
Best 0-60 public road 4.35s
Best 1/4 of 12.61 no DA correction

TopherSho

Any senior members know what it takes to mate a new t
TCU? 
2010 non-pp, 98k miles, 3-bar,  .026 plugs, SNOW-KIT STG1, AJPTurbu tune#35, 15.5+psi
Best 0-60 public road 4.35s
Best 1/4 of 12.61 no DA correction

AJP turbo

Sorry to hear Topher. I feel like you have had more bad times than good with this car.

And I think some of the programming for the TCU happens when you flash the ECU but I really don't know. I"m sure the dealer can do trans programming with the IDS software they use but I really don't know.
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TopherSho

#22
Quote from: AJP turbo on August 28, 2018, 09:56:09 PM
Sorry to hear Topher. I feel like you have had more bad times than good with this car.

And I think some of the programming for the TCU happens when you flash the ECU but I really don't know. I"m sure the dealer can do trans programming with the IDS software they use but I really don't know.

My now dinner addled brain thinks it is all IDS,  but that's based on a super old thread from the other SHOforum where a member who had access to IDS swapped in a pp unit and forced it to mate.

Guess well find out.. about to start a go fund me :P

Here is what PTU death looks like when it pools after stopping 2 blocks later.  (same pic,  but here as well for late thread skippers.)
2010 non-pp, 98k miles, 3-bar,  .026 plugs, SNOW-KIT STG1, AJPTurbu tune#35, 15.5+psi
Best 0-60 public road 4.35s
Best 1/4 of 12.61 no DA correction

bpd1151

Damn.

Damn, damn, damn.

Sorry to read.

You gonna buy new, reman'd, or junk yard pull?

bpd1151

Quote from: TopherSho on August 28, 2018, 07:47:40 PM
Quote from: SHOme on August 28, 2018, 07:41:44 PM
How often do you have it flushed?  I do mine every 30k because my 2010 TC went bad at 112k.  It might be the PTU fluid also.

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2010 has no plug that I can access, and the dealership refused to change the lifetime fluid.
Btw, the 2010 models do have a drain plug per se.

It's the port that they hook up to pressure check the system. I drain mine twice per year by means of this bolt.

If you need a pic, LMK.

TopherSho

#25
Quote from: bpd1151 on August 28, 2018, 10:16:24 PM
Quote from: TopherSho on August 28, 2018, 07:47:40 PM
Quote from: SHOme on August 28, 2018, 07:41:44 PM
How often do you have it flushed?  I do mine every 30k because my 2010 TC went bad at 112k.  It might be the PTU fluid also.

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2010 has no plug that I can access, and the dealership refused to change the lifetime fluid.
Btw, the 2010 models do have a drain plug per se.

It's the port that they hook up to pressure check the system. I drain mine twice per year by means of this bolt.

If you need a pic, LMK.

Welp it is a dealer job so that's a gamble at this point.  My bet is re-maned which I think I like more... as to the plug, well dammit swore I read the 2010 was not accessible without heroic efforts.. If it is without dissembling the wheel/fender I am interested.
2010 non-pp, 98k miles, 3-bar,  .026 plugs, SNOW-KIT STG1, AJPTurbu tune#35, 15.5+psi
Best 0-60 public road 4.35s
Best 1/4 of 12.61 no DA correction

bpd1151

The trans itself has a drain plug.

The PTU does NOT.

I just thumbed through more of the thread, and was confused as the title says, trans blew, but looks like discussion transitioned to the failure possibly being the PTU.

Not sure which one you've verified has failed.

A mighty vac pump with an extended tube is used to change my PTU fluid. Takes approx. 20min total. I'm thinking the dealer just didn't want to perform the service.

TopherSho

Quote from: bpd1151 on August 28, 2018, 10:31:40 PM
The trans itself has a drain plug.

The PTU does NOT.

I just thumbed through more of the thread, and was confused as the title says, trans blew, but looks like discussion transitioned to the failure possibly being the PTU.

Not sure which one you've verified has failed.

A mighty vac pump with an extended tube is used to change my PTU fluid. Takes approx. 20min total. I'm thinking the dealer just didn't want to perform the service.

still not 100% sure .. the oil smelled so so so bad,  and it was a really sludgey black.  i will know by end of tomorrow when the pull off the cover.
2010 non-pp, 98k miles, 3-bar,  .026 plugs, SNOW-KIT STG1, AJPTurbu tune#35, 15.5+psi
Best 0-60 public road 4.35s
Best 1/4 of 12.61 no DA correction

SHOdded

when you change transmissions, generally all you need to do is update the solenoid body strategy in the PCM.  The TCM being the same as the Solenoid Body Assembly.  Now if you use a different type of transmission, you will have to update other parameters as well.  PP, non-PP, PI, etc.
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If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

TopherSho

2010 non-pp, 98k miles, 3-bar,  .026 plugs, SNOW-KIT STG1, AJPTurbu tune#35, 15.5+psi
Best 0-60 public road 4.35s
Best 1/4 of 12.61 no DA correction