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New turbo option for the 3.5l ecoboosts?

Started by Cole.C, July 21, 2018, 07:57:54 AM

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Cole.C

Haven't seen this ad before wondering if anyone else has heard of agency power and their reputability? https://www.agency-power.com/shop/agency-power-stage-1-billet-wheel-cartridge-upgrade-twin-turbo-ford-3-5l-transverse-ecoboost/
Finally got both of my core turbos, I burnt a rear turbo seal which keeps pouring out smoke after heated up and after a good pull or 2.. been trying to make mind up over EPP's stock upgrade or whether I should just for for ATPs because they are only 600$ more or so pending on where are boughten.. Then I see this new companies claim that they perform just slightly less when compared to ATP at quite a lower price point. So now I'm really up in the air on what to go with..
Appreciate any inputs on what you'd recommend and why! Thanks.


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Cole.C

... accidentally posted in wrong section sorry guys!.

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ZSHO

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Quote from: Cole.C on July 21, 2018, 07:59:39 AM
... accidentally posted in wrong section sorry guys!.

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No worries.  Z  :)


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

SHOdded

#3
Personally I would stick with tried and true.  ATP or EPP.  Without reliability data cannot recommend others.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

ToMang07

$1,600 for 2 compressor wheels sounds steep to me...
~Tom~
2013 SHO - Stage 3 Snow Performance Meth, (2) SCT X4 with Unleashed, 3 Bar Map, MSD Ignition Coils w/Colder Plugs 170*TS, EcoPowerParts Hot Pipes & Tial-Q BOV) Stage 3 Motorsports Catless Downpipes 3" Cat-Back Exhaust, JLT Oil Separator, H&R Sport Springs, K&N CAI, Drilled and Slotted Rotors w/EBC Pads

SHOdded

2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

Cole.C

I emailed them to see if it indeed is only a compressor wheel upgrade or if they do any sort of machining to accommodate a larger wheel and if so what the sizes are and if they replace the chra's but I too agree it's a bit much for 2 small wheels although after googling a bit about agency power they seem to have only good reviews. Don't see much for their upgraded turbos though mainly exhaust parts. Hope to get more info from them otherwise it looks like it will back between ATP or EPP.

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ToMang07

Quote from: SHOdded on July 21, 2018, 10:28:45 AM
True, but you get what u pay for.

No argument, but I like to know what I'm buying. I hate the performance market because it's FLOODED with BS "performance" parts. I want to see data. I want specifics. I know it's not just me, lol
~Tom~
2013 SHO - Stage 3 Snow Performance Meth, (2) SCT X4 with Unleashed, 3 Bar Map, MSD Ignition Coils w/Colder Plugs 170*TS, EcoPowerParts Hot Pipes & Tial-Q BOV) Stage 3 Motorsports Catless Downpipes 3" Cat-Back Exhaust, JLT Oil Separator, H&R Sport Springs, K&N CAI, Drilled and Slotted Rotors w/EBC Pads

SHOdded

ATPs the data is out there.  Fewer have done CHRA type upgrades, and i dont think there is dyno data yet.  Seat of the pants reports are encouraging, possibly enough to require a tune update.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

ZSHO

#9
Here are some technical Specs on the Turbos which can be found below.  Z

Stock Turbine
-Wheel Inducer: 40mm
-Wheel Exducer: 34.5mm

Stock Compressor
-Wheel Inducer: 36.3mm
-Wheel Exducer: 49mm

Upgraded +2 Turbine
-Wheel Inducer: 50mm
-Wheel Exducer: 43.5mm
-Range: New Series Garrett GT Journal Bearing

Upgraded +2 Compressor
-Wheel Inducer: 43.4mm
-Wheel Exducer: 56mm
-Range: New Series Garrett GT Journal Bearing

Twin turbo upgrade, direct bolt-on stock location. +2 size Garrett flows 200-250HP more than stock turbos. Remachined stock end housings. All new Garrett CHRA (Center Housing Rotating Assembly). Core exchange required.

https://www.atpturbo.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=tp&Product_Code=ATP-SHO-001&Category_Code=NEW

https://www.atpturbo.com/mm5/graphics/00000001/Catalog%20Images/Vehicle%20Specific/ATP-SHO-001_Coolant_Port_Diagram.jpg



2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

Macgyver

The Turbo Housing is still the same size ?

ZSHO

#11
Quote from: Macgyver on July 22, 2018, 10:44:38 PM
The Turbo Housing is still the same size ?
That should be the same size which incorporates the existing studs AFAIK.  Z


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

irondoor19

Install requires a Minor Mod to the front Turbo Oil Line
No Big Deal., They Spool Up Faster, Less Stress, That's for Sure.
Pricing HAS been about the SAME for a minute, and
After what happened to my Stock One's, it is the Way to go from my standpoint
2010 Lincoln MKS, BONE Stock for Now, 2014 3.7L Police, Drop IN K&N,

EcoPowerParts

Quote from: Cole.C on July 21, 2018, 07:57:54 AM
Haven't seen this ad before wondering if anyone else has heard of agency power and their reputability? https://www.agency-power.com/shop/agency-power-stage-1-billet-wheel-cartridge-upgrade-twin-turbo-ford-3-5l-transverse-ecoboost/
Finally got both of my core turbos, I burnt a rear turbo seal which keeps pouring out smoke after heated up and after a good pull or 2.. been trying to make mind up over EPP's stock upgrade or whether I should just for for ATPs because they are only 600$ more or so pending on where are boughten.. Then I see this new companies claim that they perform just slightly less when compared to ATP at quite a lower price point. So now I'm really up in the air on what to go with..
Appreciate any inputs on what you'd recommend and why! Thanks.


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That's Vivid racing, google the address.
They're selling the same CHRA that I am, sourcing from the same guy most likely as we're all local.
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Macgyver

Too bad you cant get slightly bigger housings for the upgraded turbos and get back some top end breathing room.