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Has anyone seen this article?

Started by jbrown9999, July 09, 2018, 10:49:15 PM

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jbrown9999

I had no idea Ford has moved to a combo injection system on the Raptor and GT Ecoboost engines.  Does anyone know if the 2019 SHO will be equipped this way?

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/explained-why-some-engines-have-both-port-and-direct-injection
2016 Ford SHO w/ PP w/ SCT X4 w/ Gearhead tune,
MDesign CAI, non-noise maker pipe
Gapped/colder plugs, Thermostat w/ Water Wetter
MSD COPS, aFe Silver Bullet intake spacer
UPR catch can, BOV to atmosphere mod

SHOdded

Not likely as the Taurus/SHO is slated to cease production in 2020MY.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

jbrown9999

Was just looking and if you spec out a new 2018 F-150 with the 3.5 Ecoboost, it also mentions the dual injectors but also comes with Auto Start/Stop.
2016 Ford SHO w/ PP w/ SCT X4 w/ Gearhead tune,
MDesign CAI, non-noise maker pipe
Gapped/colder plugs, Thermostat w/ Water Wetter
MSD COPS, aFe Silver Bullet intake spacer
UPR catch can, BOV to atmosphere mod

bpd1151

That auto start/stop crap is annoying.

AJP turbo

Peter dowding and Stephen Russ of Ford stress that carbon deposits on the intake valves have never been an issue??? Are you freaking kidding me...do rich executives just live in their own worlds? That paragraph was funny
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Former:2014 PP SHO
3 bar 93 tune, Airaid, Stainless Works non catted DP's  
405whp/520tq
Dyno
     
Current:2016 F150 2.7 Ecoboost
Tuning in progress

bpd1151

Yea I thought that was a lil humorous myself.

They probably live in a world where no sedans exist either.

Thus the pending elimination of them from the product lineup.

Aye yai yai it's dizzying the stupidity at times.

***smh***

bamsho

The Gen 2 3.5  EB came in 3.5 F150s with the 10sp auto.  Think the 2.7, 3.3, 5.0 all are DI and port injection.  Pretty sure the 2.3 in the mustang too.  Yeah kinda funny, FMC is using both setups now.
2013 white Gen 5.  Gearhead Intercooler, Turbosmart wastegate actuators, Alky Controls meth kit, Livernois catted downpipes,  Livernois Corsa cat back black etched tips.  2016 True Street Champion.

SHOdded

Ford does have a patent on the dual setup IIRC, dating back to before the intro of the Gen 4 SHO.  The timing of its' actual use is interesting.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

5ohSHO

The valves in my PI said otherwise about carbon deposits not being an issue. It is an interesting article though.

TopherSho

Quote from: SHOdded on July 10, 2018, 07:48:46 AM
Ford does have a patent on the dual setup IIRC, dating back to before the intro of the Gen 4 SHO.  The timing of its' actual use is interesting.

Dual injection is pretty tough,  i imagine the patent simply preceded the tech 'working' well enough for mass production,  that and the cost of dual injection is pretty high.
2010 non-pp, 98k miles, 3-bar,  .026 plugs, SNOW-KIT STG1, AJPTurbu tune#35, 15.5+psi
Best 0-60 public road 4.35s
Best 1/4 of 12.61 no DA correction

SHOdded

#10
Mike aka EcoPowerParts made this possible a couple of years back.  Yeah, not cheap, but it worked and worked well.

Toyota/Lexus and maybe some other Japanese mfrs had also implemented such a solution, mostly in higher end vehicles, some time back.
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/explained-why-some-engines-have-both-port-and-direct-injection

http://www.wardsauto.com/technology/toyota-advances-d4s-self-cleaning-feature-tacoma
http://www.treadstoneperformance.com/blog/fr-sbrz-explained/
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

TSS

Quote from: bpd1151 on July 10, 2018, 01:16:29 AM
That auto start/stop crap is annoying.

Don't get me started.......
2010 Steel Blue Metallic MKS Ecoboost: LME 3-Bar Tuned; tint; 20" Factory rims Permachromed

2017 Summit White Buick Envision Premium AWD 2.0 Turbo
2017 Silver Cadillac XTS V-Sport Platinum  3.6 Twin Turbo; LME tuned.

TopherSho

Quote from: SHOdded on July 10, 2018, 11:30:30 AM
Mike aka EcoPowerParts made this possible a couple of years back.  Yeah, not cheap, but it worked and worked well.

Toyota/Lexus and maybe some other Japanese mfrs had also implemented such a solution, mostly in higher end vehicles, some time back.
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/explained-why-some-engines-have-both-port-and-direct-injection

http://www.wardsauto.com/technology/toyota-advances-d4s-self-cleaning-feature-tacoma
http://www.treadstoneperformance.com/blog/fr-sbrz-explained/

I *loves* the d-4s injection system .. its has been around a while and finally is making it down stream like in the latest Camry
2010 non-pp, 98k miles, 3-bar,  .026 plugs, SNOW-KIT STG1, AJPTurbu tune#35, 15.5+psi
Best 0-60 public road 4.35s
Best 1/4 of 12.61 no DA correction

StealBlueSho

Besides cooling the charge, meth does help prevent further deposits from forming... which I could add it without voiding warranty... I need to fabricate a quick disconnect setup..

Vortech347

If Ford really gave a s*** about the SHO/Flex/Explorer platform they they would have adapted it in 17' to be port and DI.  But they're losing money on them...that's why they're getting the AX.

Matt H.
2013 SHO Performance Pack, Daily, AJPTurbo tuned
2003 SVT Cobra 497rwhp/491rwtq, Self tuned, Cruiser
1990 Mustang GT 570rwhp/530twtq, Self tuned, Open Track
2017 F150 XLT 5.0