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Should I be rebuilding my turbos at 130k miles?

Started by Gray Brick, April 30, 2018, 01:15:24 AM

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Gray Brick

I know Ford says these turbos are good until 100k miles but what is everyone really seeing?

2013 Ecoboost Ford Flex
AJP Tune (ATP+2) in progress , Livernois HPFP, 3 Bar MAP, UPR Catch Can, 100% Methanol w/ braided steel lines, 3" Downpipes -->2.5" X-pipe --> 2.5" Magnaflow exhaust, 2.5" air inlets to each turbo with cone filter, Custom water to air intercooler with chiller
275/40-20 Front 315/35-20 Rear Tires
---12.419ET/112.43MPH @ 5150 lbs in the 1/4---

ZSHO

#1
I thought Ford said @ 150K !   Z

The EcoBoost engineering design life is 10 years and 150,000 miles.


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

StealBlueSho

The real question is how many of these snails are actually making it to 100K miles?

lamrith

You guys are scaring me :-p   At least they are relatively cheap to replace (cost of turbo itself) if you can do the work yourself...
'13 Sho PP, SCT x4, AJP 92-Octane rev6 (14psi&20spark) NGK 6510, 3Bar, K&N CAI, PPE Catted DP, Dynomax Axleback, 20*9.5 Voxx Lago w/ 275/40-20 GMAX AS-05.

Victorious Secret

I had my front turbo go out at 84k and replaced both with OEM. Would do a CHRA upgrade if I could do it again but I needed the car running so went this route. The high altitude here makes it hard for the turbos to make boost, that could be a reason for the early failure.

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Gray Brick

2013 Ecoboost Ford Flex
AJP Tune (ATP+2) in progress , Livernois HPFP, 3 Bar MAP, UPR Catch Can, 100% Methanol w/ braided steel lines, 3" Downpipes -->2.5" X-pipe --> 2.5" Magnaflow exhaust, 2.5" air inlets to each turbo with cone filter, Custom water to air intercooler with chiller
275/40-20 Front 315/35-20 Rear Tires
---12.419ET/112.43MPH @ 5150 lbs in the 1/4---

Victorious Secret

Quote from: Gray Brick on April 30, 2018, 06:31:40 PM
What went bad on the turbos?
Front turbo had a ton of shaft play. No signs of anything passing through the turbo or evidence of engine wear in the oil. Tech who replaced them said it looked like it was "over worked" and "spun". I assume that is taking well passed it efficiency range to long and to often. The rear on was fine. I have a picture of the turbo I will try and dig it up. Front is easy to check take the IC tube off look for damage and feel for play with your hand.

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polskifacet

89k on mine and i can see more some more oil in the intake track. So far so good though.
AEM Dryflo drop in. PP Transmission Cooler and thermostat. 160 tstat, 3 bar map, plugs, AJP 93 Tune, PP Shocks and Springs

Gray Brick

My wastegate duty cycle is going to 90% at 16 pounds of boost.

Looking at my options now....
2013 Ecoboost Ford Flex
AJP Tune (ATP+2) in progress , Livernois HPFP, 3 Bar MAP, UPR Catch Can, 100% Methanol w/ braided steel lines, 3" Downpipes -->2.5" X-pipe --> 2.5" Magnaflow exhaust, 2.5" air inlets to each turbo with cone filter, Custom water to air intercooler with chiller
275/40-20 Front 315/35-20 Rear Tires
---12.419ET/112.43MPH @ 5150 lbs in the 1/4---

Colorado-SHOBro

Quote from: Gray Brick on May 01, 2018, 01:03:49 AM
My wastegate duty cycle is going to 90% at 16 pounds of boost.

Looking at my options now....
are you at altitude?


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11' SHO Tuxedo Metallic black-non PP | Highly sophisticated high altitude custom AJP Turbo E30 3Bar tune w/Wastegate mod | Cat'd ceramic PPE downpipes |170 stat| SP542 plugs .028 | PP trans cooler | H&R springs | RX catch can

12.8@108 @ 6,000ft DA.

FearlessAZ

Mine went out at about 83K. But no idea how they were treated before I got the vehicle.
2010 Non PP Sho. All the factory goodies. (RIP)


2015 MKS Ecoboost. All the factory goodies. (SOLD)

Victorious Secret

Good question from what I understand it is harder for turbos to reach target boost pressure at altitude. Here in the Springs I am at and average of 5500.
Quote from: Colorado-SHOBro on May 01, 2018, 11:06:39 AM
Quote from: Gray Brick on May 01, 2018, 01:03:49 AM
My wastegate duty cycle is going to 90% at 16 pounds of boost.

Looking at my options now....
are you at altitude?


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StealBlueSho

Quote from: Victorious Secret on May 01, 2018, 11:37:20 AM
Good question from what I understand it is harder for turbos to reach target boost pressure at altitude. Here in the Springs I am at and average of 5500.
Quote from: Colorado-SHOBro on May 01, 2018, 11:06:39 AM
Quote from: Gray Brick on May 01, 2018, 01:03:49 AM
My wastegate duty cycle is going to 90% at 16 pounds of boost.

Looking at my options now....
are you at altitude?


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Yes, the air is not as dense the higher the altitude. It takes more effort to compress the air to hit target psi..

Colorado-SHOBro

if the op is not at high altitude and seeing high WGDC like that then something is def not right and turbos are most likely at fault


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11' SHO Tuxedo Metallic black-non PP | Highly sophisticated high altitude custom AJP Turbo E30 3Bar tune w/Wastegate mod | Cat'd ceramic PPE downpipes |170 stat| SP542 plugs .028 | PP trans cooler | H&R springs | RX catch can

12.8@108 @ 6,000ft DA.

Gray Brick

2013 Ecoboost Ford Flex
AJP Tune (ATP+2) in progress , Livernois HPFP, 3 Bar MAP, UPR Catch Can, 100% Methanol w/ braided steel lines, 3" Downpipes -->2.5" X-pipe --> 2.5" Magnaflow exhaust, 2.5" air inlets to each turbo with cone filter, Custom water to air intercooler with chiller
275/40-20 Front 315/35-20 Rear Tires
---12.419ET/112.43MPH @ 5150 lbs in the 1/4---