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20" wheel options

Started by lamrith, March 21, 2018, 05:43:21 PM

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lamrith

I skimmed here real quick and did not see an answer.
Stumbled on a set of 2011-2015 explorer polished wheels and wondered if anyone has tried these on a SHO before?  Specs look good although I am a little concerned about the offset @44
20*8.5 so gain a hair of width. 
Could I get away with 275's all around, maybe 275/40r20 to maintain tire diameter?
Screaming deal of a full set of 4 wheels for $300, no sensors, no tires.
They are these wheels:
https://midwestwheelandtire.com/product/3861pr-alloy-wheel-rim?gclid=CjwKCAjwhcjVBRBHEiwAoDe5x2WmFn2yR7UkL9tz3KI5kvglycLcbRK0pqOtJJFwADjFYlAydhqiVRoCm68QAvD_BwE
'13 Sho PP, SCT x4, AJP 92-Octane rev6 (14psi&20spark) NGK 6510, 3Bar, K&N CAI, PPE Catted DP, Dynomax Axleback, 20*9.5 Voxx Lago w/ 275/40-20 GMAX AS-05.

bpd1151

Are you sure you can wrap a 275 around an 8.5" wide rim?

Not sure about that. Double, triple check!!

lamrith

Quote from: bpd1151 on March 21, 2018, 06:15:47 PM
Are you sure you can wrap a 275 around an 8.5" wide rim?

Not sure about that. Double, triple check!!
Yeah I have been digging around and it sounds like that is a no.  Def puts a damper on my initial goals...

'13 Sho PP, SCT x4, AJP 92-Octane rev6 (14psi&20spark) NGK 6510, 3Bar, K&N CAI, PPE Catted DP, Dynomax Axleback, 20*9.5 Voxx Lago w/ 275/40-20 GMAX AS-05.

CroR1

need 9.5 for 275s. I have a set that I am selling, wheels wrapped in 275s :)

bpd1151

Quote from: CroR1 on March 21, 2018, 06:45:45 PM
need 9.5 for 275s. I have a set that I am selling, wheels wrapped in 275s :)
I was thinking that 9's would be even tough, and my fuzzy memory was screaming 9.5 at a minimum.....

So thank you for verifying so lamrith can move forward.

Maybe he'll purchase your set.

**wink **wink

lamrith

Quote from: CroR1 on March 21, 2018, 06:45:45 PM
need 9.5 for 275s. I have a set that I am selling, wheels wrapped in 275s :)
That is what I am seeing as well, so I will just force myself to be patient while I save and keep an eye out for a good deal locally.

Yeah I saw those ones you have listed, a couple times.  Problem is they are just way out of my range at this point and I am looking to go counter everyone else and go all chrome wheels.  The shipping for that set would be hundreds of dollars out to me as well.
It is a nice set of wheels and great tires.
'13 Sho PP, SCT x4, AJP 92-Octane rev6 (14psi&20spark) NGK 6510, 3Bar, K&N CAI, PPE Catted DP, Dynomax Axleback, 20*9.5 Voxx Lago w/ 275/40-20 GMAX AS-05.

derfdog15

Quote from: lamrith on March 21, 2018, 07:44:51 PM
Quote from: CroR1 on March 21, 2018, 06:45:45 PM
need 9.5 for 275s. I have a set that I am selling, wheels wrapped in 275s :)
That is what I am seeing as well, so I will just force myself to be patient while I save and keep an eye out for a good deal locally.

Yeah I saw those ones you have listed, a couple times.  Problem is they are just way out of my range at this point and I am looking to go counter everyone else and go all chrome wheels.  The shipping for that set would be hundreds of dollars out to me as well.
It is a nice set of wheels and great tires.

Freight shipping is your savior. You can get rims/tires shipped freight (or even greyhound) for relatively cheap compared to shipping each one individually via UPS or similar.
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2016 F150 FX4 Sport - 3.5L V6 Ecoboost - Stock for now

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lamrith

What are peoples thoughts on these?  I stumbled on a set in good shape for $750 locally.  I was wanting to go more chrome, bright look, but these might work well to.

https://www.hubcaphaven.com/p/785/aly3862hh-ford-mustang-wheel-smoked-hyper-silver-br3z1007e.html?gclid=Cj0KCQiA5aTUBRC2ARIsAPoPJk-xatNKKWMdHvfl4o4Vps4P_XhyxttpiuTHqTOAopDthqy8xrskpUYaAiAkEALw_wcB
'13 Sho PP, SCT x4, AJP 92-Octane rev6 (14psi&20spark) NGK 6510, 3Bar, K&N CAI, PPE Catted DP, Dynomax Axleback, 20*9.5 Voxx Lago w/ 275/40-20 GMAX AS-05.

EcoAbe

Those look good and I have not seen them on SHO before... Was the stock tire set up for the performance pack Mustang staggered in the rear? Are all four the same 19x9?
2015 Bronze Fire Non PP w/ 401a package

lamrith

Still on the hunt for wheels.  I had narrowed it down to the Drag DR-37, 20x8.5 ET38, that I would then wrap in some 255's
https://www.discounttire.com/buy-wheels/drag-dr-37/p/13830

Then a buddy mentioned Voxx and I stumbled on these.  They are wider, which should put me at the point I can run 275's.  The questions is, will the width and backspace fit under a SHO on all 4 corners?  Stock height and lowered?  20*9.5 et35
https://www.discounttire.com/buy*-wheels/voxx-lago/p/21931

Another question is wheel weight, DR's are 26#, Lago's are 30.  I believe the stock 20" flowers are 30#?  How much if a difference will the lighter wheels be?
'13 Sho PP, SCT x4, AJP 92-Octane rev6 (14psi&20spark) NGK 6510, 3Bar, K&N CAI, PPE Catted DP, Dynomax Axleback, 20*9.5 Voxx Lago w/ 275/40-20 GMAX AS-05.

lamrith

Quote from: lamrith on April 01, 2018, 01:20:37 AM
Another question is wheel weight, DR's are 26#, Lago's are 30.  I believe the stock 20" flowers are 30#?  How much if a difference will the lighter wheels be?
I guess a better way to ask the question, is what are the pros/cons of going to the lighter 26# DR-37 versus the Lago which are 30# like the stock flowers?
'13 Sho PP, SCT x4, AJP 92-Octane rev6 (14psi&20spark) NGK 6510, 3Bar, K&N CAI, PPE Catted DP, Dynomax Axleback, 20*9.5 Voxx Lago w/ 275/40-20 GMAX AS-05.

Colorado-SHOBro

#11
Quote from: lamrith on April 01, 2018, 01:36:27 PM
Quote from: lamrith on April 01, 2018, 01:20:37 AM
Another question is wheel weight, DR's are 26#, Lago's are 30.  I believe the stock 20" flowers are 30#?  How much if a difference will the lighter wheels be?
I guess a better way to ask the question, is what are the pros/cons of going to the lighter 26# DR-37 versus the Lago which are 30# like the stock flowers?
kind of a loaded question . . ill answer to the best of my knowledge:
old adage is 100lbs of weight savings = 1/10th in the 1/4 mile . . however i don't feel that applies to a 4500lb sedan.
also keep in mind for every pound of UNSPRUNG(rotational mass)weight multiply by 8 to get the equivalent static weight.
so if you reduce 5lbs/corner  that gives you 20lbs of rotating weight. 8x20=160lbs.
MIGHT make you a tenth quicker . . hard to say.

i did a ton of research when i was wheel shopping and ran across an article on the mustang forums that gave a much more accurate rule of thumb. it was something like X% of total weight savings = 1/10th in the 1/4. can't find it at the moment. . . ill keep looking.
also find specs on the tires your interested in. i chose tires that were 4lbs lighter in there size than all others. my car did turn some good times and surprised a lot of local SHO guys that were further modded than me. a lot of variables though


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lamrith

Quote from: Colorado-SHOBro on April 01, 2018, 06:12:48 PM
Quote from: lamrith on April 01, 2018, 01:36:27 PM
Quote from: lamrith on April 01, 2018, 01:20:37 AM
Another question is wheel weight, DR's are 26#, Lago's are 30.  I believe the stock 20" flowers are 30#?  How much if a difference will the lighter wheels be?
I guess a better way to ask the question, is what are the pros/cons of going to the lighter 26# DR-37 versus the Lago which are 30# like the stock flowers?
kind of a loaded question . . ill answer to the best of my knowledge:
old adage is 100lbs of weight savings = 1/10th in the 1/4 mile . . however i don't feel that applies to a 4500lb sedan.
also keep in mind for every pound of UNSPRUNG(rotational mass)weight multiply by 8 to get the equivalent static weight.
so if you reduce 5lbs/corner  that gives you 20lbs of rotating weight. 8x20=160lbs.
MIGHT make you a tenth quicker . . hard to say.

i did a ton of research when i was wheel shopping and ran across an article on the mustang forums that gave a much more accurate rule of thumb. it was something like X% of total weight savings = 1/10th in the 1/4. can't find it at the moment. . . ill keep looking.
also find specs on the tires your interested in. i chose tires that were 4lbs lighter in there size than all others. my car did turn some good times and surprised a lot of local SHO guys that were further modded than me. a lot of variables though


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Thanks ShoBro, I was just looking for rough ideas on it so that helps!
I have also heard that lighter wheels can help with handling, but at the same time tend to ride harder and transmit more road roughness which in a DD sedan is not something I am looking to do.  I do not track at all, so gaining that slight improvement in ET is just "on paper" for me.
:-p
'13 Sho PP, SCT x4, AJP 92-Octane rev6 (14psi&20spark) NGK 6510, 3Bar, K&N CAI, PPE Catted DP, Dynomax Axleback, 20*9.5 Voxx Lago w/ 275/40-20 GMAX AS-05.

derfdog15

I would stay away from the Drag brand wheels, they are cheap and prone to structural issues (which is why they are so cheap). I have also seen a set of Voxx wheels that were on a vehicle for autocross that failed during a lap, lots of issue.

If you want cheaper side of wheels, atleast go with one of the wheels that American Muscle offers IMO. They have a lifetime structural warranty, and 1 yr finish warranty, so if there are any issues with structure, you're covered.

My .02
2015 Tuxedo Black SHO PP -(SAE corrected): 369.4/451.4 - Gone to the automotive graveyard but not forgotten

2016 F150 FX4 Sport - 3.5L V6 Ecoboost - Stock for now

2003 Redfire V6 Mustang - Building to be an 11 second car