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O2 sensor compatibility question

Started by dubcitySHO, March 22, 2018, 06:42:38 AM

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dubcitySHO

I've been having an issue with seeing some KR values and timing being pulled as a result in my tried and true AJP tune.  I was looking over a datalog and noticed my LTFT was hovering around 18% in closed loop operation, and then I finally got a CEL for bank 1 sensor 2 reporting a lean condition.  I checked the voltage of the sensor, and it's not moving and only reporting 0.5 volts so I need to replace the sensor. 

My question is, are both post cat o2 sensors the same part number or does each bank use a specific sensor?  No sense replacing one while ignoring the other.

2018 Magnetic Metallic F-150 XLT FX4 SCrew, 20% 3M Tint, Currently researching reputable F-150 tuners....

SHOdded

#1
8   BA5Z-9G444-A   Oxygen Sensor
TAURUS; 3.5L; W/ TURBO; LOWER; REAR

$65.35   $41.33   
8   BA5Z-9G444-A   Oxygen Sensor
Lower Oxygen Sensor, LEFT

3.5 LITER W/ TURBO, TO 11/ 02/ 2014

$65.35   $41.33   
8   BA5Z-9G444-A   Oxygen Sensor
Lower Oxygen Sensor, RIGHT

3.5 LITER W/ TURBO, TO 11/ 02/ 2014

$65.35   $41.33   

https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/ford,2012,taurus,3.5l+v6+turbocharged,1501990,exhaust+&+emission,oxygen+(o2)+sensor,5132
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

dubcitySHO

Thanks Shodded!   

I'm confused.  :blink:

I know the upstream are the wideband, which are vastly different from the downstream sensors, but those you posted are all the same BA5Z-9G444-A part number for both lower right and left.

I checked rockauto, but saw they didn't have Motorcraft sensors and I didn't know if Bosch or Denso made a similar quality sensor.  I was looking on tasca parts by VIN for them and it appears from their catalog they are the same but you know what they say about stuff on the internet.....
2018 Magnetic Metallic F-150 XLT FX4 SCrew, 20% 3M Tint, Currently researching reputable F-150 tuners....

ZSHO

#3
The rear downstream 02 sensors have the same part numbers.  Z

MOTORCRAFT DY1167 {#BA5Z9G444A} Heated Info
Category: Oxygen (O2) Sensor. $36.79  ea X-2 Needed.

5% Discount Code: 601E7F62B0FC9A
Expires: March 22, 2018


https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=2603656&jsn=259

https://www.rockauto.com/en/partsearch/?partnum=BA5Z9G444A

Here are the front primary 02 sensors changed @ 50K!



2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

SHOdded

Sorry about the confusion, did not check part numbers closely :(  but Z has you covered :)

And def stick with Motorcraft.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

AJP turbo

I would stick with Motorcraft. The Bosch and NTK are great and one of those may even be used for the motorcraft application. But the voltage scale is calibrated for a certain Lambda value so if you use a different sensor you could slightly alter air fuel ratios.
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dubcitySHO

2018 Magnetic Metallic F-150 XLT FX4 SCrew, 20% 3M Tint, Currently researching reputable F-150 tuners....

ZSHO

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Quote from: dubcitySHO on March 22, 2018, 12:31:25 PM
Ordered!  Thanks gentlemen.
Cool Bean's.  :) Glad you're replacing them in (sets) and not individually.
BTW -  I wouldn't be surprised if there shipped out already.  Z 


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

FoMoCoSHO

Quote from: AJP turbo on March 22, 2018, 10:24:31 AM
I would stick with Motorcraft. The Bosch and NTK are great and one of those may even be used for the motorcraft application. But the voltage scale is calibrated for a certain Lambda value so if you use a different sensor you could slightly alter air fuel ratios.
Bosch is listed as the actual OE part for mine and offers a lifetime warranty vs motorcraft 24 mos for about $10.00 more apiece.

derfdog15

Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on March 22, 2018, 04:02:19 PM
Quote from: AJP turbo on March 22, 2018, 10:24:31 AM
I would stick with Motorcraft. The Bosch and NTK are great and one of those may even be used for the motorcraft application. But the voltage scale is calibrated for a certain Lambda value so if you use a different sensor you could slightly alter air fuel ratios.
Bosch is listed as the actual OE part for mine and offers a lifetime warranty vs motorcraft 24 mos for about $10.00 more apiece.

Bosch is my go to brand for sensors tbh. They have amazing quality control, we use them at work on all of our engines and I have only seen 1 'failed' sensor in 2 years of heavy load engine testing with various fuels.
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2016 F150 FX4 Sport - 3.5L V6 Ecoboost - Stock for now

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