Performance gains and Fords Duel fuel injection?

[6500rpm]

We recently had a 2018 F150 5.0L in our shop with a blown engine and got my first look at Fords duel fuel injection set up. I haven't looked up any training material yet, but it really makes me curious what performance gains are possible and if anyone has heard any whisper's about any plans to use the design in SHO style 3.5L. Seems to me with Flex fuel, Ecoboost, and Duel injection it's a path to easy HP without the carbon issues of DI only. If the forum has any good threads on Duel injection, throw me a bone and post a link, the system really peaked my curiosity.

[Agentlongwood]

The details of that kind of stuff seems WAAAAYYYY above my head.  But I do believe someone is running a meth system that has 6 ports drilled into the intake manifold to spray meth accurately and evenly into each cylinder.  I suppose it's theoretically possible to do that but add a fuel injector into each port instead of meth injection...  The cost and complexity of running a second fuel system seems like it would be prohibitive, I imagine.  But I truly don't know.

[polskifacet]

Usually they put 1 or 2 port injectors that cover all cylinders well enough. I think lexus was the first to do dual injection main stream in 2006.

[autobahn terror]

Mike B at ecopower parts sells the exact system for the SHO. It is indeed expensive, but worth it if you don't want to mess with refilling a meth tank all the time.

[SHOdded]

https://blog.caranddriver.com/explained-why-some-engines-have-both-port-and-direct-injection/

http://www.enginelabs.com/news/fords-gen-ii-3-5l-ecoboost-set-for-2017-f-150/

http://www.greencarcongress.com/2016/05/20160503-f150.html

[bpd1151]

The problem I've heard with running an entire second set of injectors is that it taxes the crap out of the LPFP.

So one would have to look at picking up aftermarket LPFP's, and a pair of them at that since the SHO employs two of them in a saddle bag type of manner.

Given the HUGE gains meth provides, as well as the cooling and cleaning aspects, I'd lean more towards a meth setup personally.

Honestly, refilling the (meth) tank is not really much effort at all.

Just my .02 cents.

[Agentlongwood]

The problem I've heard with running an entire second set of injectors is that it taxes the crap out of the LPFP.

So one would have to look at picking up aftermarket LPFP's, and a pair of them at that since the SHO employs two of them in a saddle bag type of manner.

The system at Eco Power Parts does include a drop-in single pump that puts out 416 lph.  While the system does seem very pricey at $3900, it does seem to be pretty comprehensive.  The power per dollar seems to side heavily with meth, that's hard to argue.  But hey maybe there's some untapped potential with the EPP fueling solution since so few people have tried it.

[SHOdded]

I believe it also is E85 ready, IIRC.