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Re: Random Misfires 2010 NonPP SHO, Diagnosis -- No Oil in Engine
« Reply #60 on: April 29, 2018, 11:17:54 AM »
I am almost positive that the filter couldn't have been that dirty.

But the misfire part lined up with the rest of the nonsense. And with the VTA, maybe that is what pulled the oil out?

I guess at this point, I just have to wait for Ford's word. I will be calling them tomorrow for an update.
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Re: Random Misfires 2010 NonPP SHO, Diagnosis -- No Oil in Engine
« Reply #61 on: May 25, 2018, 09:01:17 AM »
After a lot of back and forth with the dealership in TX, they want to ship the car out here because they can not find any exact cause. They also wan't me to pay for the shipping.

The dealership here in AZ can't own up to anything because the TX dealership just gives them a lot of maybes. Maybe it is this. Maybe it is that. Dealership can't do anything about maybes.

The way the dealership presented it to the warranty company was screw up. At the time, they told the warranty company they couldn't find a leak or a failed part so of course they will deny the claim because that is a dealership issue to cover.

Seems like every thing they presented falls back to the AZ dealership. First it was the charge pipe leaking form my BOVs, then they didn't think the right amount of oil was ever put in, then they claimed they thought the timing chain cover wasn't installed correctly. All point back to the dealership here. But all just maybes.
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Re: Random Misfires 2010 NonPP SHO, Diagnosis -- No Oil in Engine
« Reply #62 on: May 25, 2018, 09:21:59 AM »
Unless Ford is willing to work the dealership in AZ and provide assistance in your case, the only other option I see is lawyering up.  Even then, I think it will depend on the lawyer, not the documentation ... :(
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Re: Random Misfires 2010 NonPP SHO, Diagnosis -- No Oil in Engine
« Reply #63 on: December 05, 2018, 06:20:08 AM »
So after many months, final conclusion after the tear down is the dealership believes it to be a low fill scenario. They can't find an external leak to warrant that much of a loss and no signs of ingestion. The actual cause of the motor seizing was the turbo impellers basically began to melt and the engine main bearing became wasted due to the high heat and friction of no oil.


After so much back in forth with the dealership in Texas and them refusing to do a tear down, I was forced to have the car shipped back here to Phoenix to restart the whole process. The dealership here did the tear down and came to the conclusion above. They say it is the only thing that makes sense.

After talking with the GM here of the dealership that did all the work and the oil change, he says they will not claim any responsibility. He says there is no way I would have made it that far and anything could have happened between here and there.

Guess it is time to lawyer up.

Facts on the table are that I did make it that far and less than 24 hours after the oil change. No warning lights at all until I tried to restart the vehicle on the side of the road. After full tear down, no signs of a leak anywhere close to that big or any signs of ingestion.
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Re: Random Misfires 2010 NonPP SHO, Diagnosis -- No Oil in Engine
« Reply #64 on: December 05, 2018, 06:29:07 AM »
sorry to hear the offending dealership is not cooperating, but sometimes you have to take assistance from the means provided by law.  I hope you smack 'em down but good!  You are one patient dude!!!
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Re: Random Misfires 2010 NonPP SHO, Diagnosis -- No Oil in Engine
« Reply #65 on: December 05, 2018, 11:29:41 AM »
X2 sorry to hear about the mischief with this dealer especially with the holidays just around the corner. Best of luck and keep us updated. Z
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