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Turbo oil line help

Started by Elchupanibre, November 17, 2017, 11:43:25 AM

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Elchupanibre

Hello everyone, its my first post, came here specifically to ask a question. I have been following this forum for a while, but now need some advise
I have a 2011 SHO. Had few issues with it so far. Now my passenger side turbo oil line is rusted right through, leaking oil. 64,000 miles, just off drivetrain warranty. Dealer wants $100 for parts, $750 for labor and $89 for wheel alignment afterwards. Also just off the extended Ford warranty, im kinda upset that no one ever found this, since obviously it took a while to get to this situation. My local shop is telling me to call the manufacturer, which i think is pointless since its off warranty. Obviously this is not a driveway job, but just wanted to see if anyone has any suggestions. Thanks is advance

SHOdded

Sorry to hear!  If you are just out of powertrain warranty, one option is to approach Ford for financial assistance, 4,000 miles might be a bit much, but no harm in asking.  The leak ... was it just discovered?  I haven't know Ford to cover hoses (in this case oil line feed), certainly they stick it to you sometimes like in the case of the power steering hose on the Edge.  Again, no harm in asking!

As far as effort to get to it & DIY, this is basically what you have to do
Removal

NOTICE: Whenever turbocharger air intake system components are removed, always cover open ports to protect from debris. It is important that no foreign material enter the system. The turbocharger compressor vanes are susceptible to damage from even small particles. All components should be inspected and cleaned, if necessary, prior to installation or reassembly.

With the vehicle in NEUTRAL, position it on a hoist. Refer to Section 100-02 .
Remove the Air Cleaner (ACL) assembly. Refer to Section 303-12 .
Disconnect the wastegate control valve hose from the LH turbocharger assembly.

Remove the 2 bolts from the top of the LH exhaust manifold heat shield.

Loosen the clamp and remove the LH turbocharger intake tube from the turbocharger.

Remove the LH turbocharger oil supply tube bolt and sealing washer.
Discard the sealing washer and oil supply tube filter.

Drain the cooling system. Refer to Section 303-03 .
Remove the LH catalytic converter. Refer to Section 309-00 .
Remove the bottom bolt and the LH exhaust manifold heat shield.

Remove the 2 LH oil return tube-to-turbocharger bolts.
Remove and discard the gasket.

Remove the LH turbocharger oil return tube from the oil pan.
Discard the 2 O-ring seals.

NOTE: Lubricate the oil pan bore with clean engine oil.

Using 2 new O-ring seals, install the LH turbocharger oil return tube to the oil pan.

Using a new gasket, install the LH turbocharger oil return tube and the 2 bolts.
Tighten to 10 Nm (89 lb-in).

NOTE: Align the marks for the LH turbocharger intake tube.

Install LH turbocharger intake tube and tighten the clamp.
Tighten to 5 Nm (44 lb-in).

Install the oil supply tube filter, washer and bolt.
Install the new oil supply tube filter in the oil supply tube block.
Slide the new washer onto the oil supply tube block.
Install the bolt into the oil supply tube block.

Install the LH turbocharger oil supply tube.
Tighten to 40 Nm (30 lb-ft).

NOTE: Make sure the turbocharger wastegate regulating valve hose does not contact the exhaust manifold heat shield.

Connect the wastegate control valve hose to the LH turbocharger assembly.

Install the LH exhaust manifold heat shield and the bottom bolt.
Do not tighten the bolts at this time.

Install the 2 top LH exhaust manifold heat shield bolts.
Tighten to 12 Nm (106 lb-in).

Tighten the LH exhaust manifold heat shield bottom bolt.
Tighten to 12 Nm (106 lb-in).

Install the LH catalytic converter. Refer to Section 309-00 .
Fill and bleed the cooling system. Refer to Section 303-03 .
Install the ACL assembly. Refer to Section 303-12 .
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

pmezo33

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Which turbo is having the problem - front or rear?  Supply or return oil line?

Elchupanibre

Passenger side, im not sure, if its supply or return. I was told by an independent shop its the top line, and can only be done by Ford

pmezo33

Quote from: Elchupanibre on November 17, 2017, 06:09:12 PM
Passenger side, im not sure, if its supply or return. I was told by an independent shop its the top line, and can only be done by Ford

That's probably the rear one then.  The front one is on the drivers side.

Return line is fairly simple.  Cat needs to be dropped, but you've got a clean shot at it once that's out of the the way.  You just need to remove the two bolts that hold it to the bottom of the turbo and pull the other side out of the oil pan.  The supply line of the rear turbo is not fun.  The banjo bolt is just tucked under the exhaust manifold and is really difficult to get to from the top and to get a torx bit on it.  Subframe probably needs to be dropped to get access to it because of ford's terrible design.

Elchupanibre

Thank you for some good pointers. I probably wouldnt mind tackling this job, if i knew what i was doing. Unfortunately it seems a bit much. I may try calling Ford, see what they say, otherwise have to come up with cash .

sholxgt

If it ends up being out of your pocket, I'd look for a good private shop in your area.  Use the internet to your advantage and find a quality mechanic in your area.

Also, use the quote you got from the dealer to order the needed parts from an online Ford OEM parts place.  Independent mechanics generally pay more for parts than you will buying online.  They just use a local parts department at a dealership and don't get the best pricing.
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Elchupanibre

My local place I usually go to, said only Ford can do the job due to special tools. Dont know if thats true or i was just brushed off

pmezo33

Quote from: Elchupanibre on November 17, 2017, 07:41:56 PM
My local place I usually go to, said only Ford can do the job due to special tools. Dont know if thats true or i was just brushed off

That's a lie

Elchupanibre

Just an update, I contacted Ford, they contacted my local dealership, who offered to split the cost 50/50. Im happy with that!

SHOdded

2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!