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Introduction 2013 PP SHO

Started by avidmotion, May 26, 2016, 01:14:31 PM

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avidmotion

Greetings Everyone!
I am new to the SHO forum. I did own a 1995 SHO. I was previously with the Buick Regal GS list, and then two Pontiac G8 GT lists, the G8 FORUM and the high performance Gr888 list which was an open list, a fun list, where everything, names, products, services were all open season, just no meanness.
My name is Joe and I have a problem.
I like to modify my vehicle and can't stop myself.
I used to slowly moddify my cars because of finances , until they had 100,000+ miles on them and they were perfect. But the had 100,000 + miles on them. With the G8 I went right out and followed the forum recipe for mid 12's and for 127,000 miles I was happy. Best time 12.58@109.78, driven right off the street to Atco nj racetrack. I could snap off 5 or 6 13.00's hotlapped, driven from Gas station to track, babyseat in back, stock tires, stock tire pressures, trunk full of: full size spare, 3 ton jack, sports equipment, tools,  etra parts, hiking boots and clothes and coats.
I never made it to the track with my last set up: version 2 Vararam Ram Air CAI, Yella Terra aluminum 1.85 roller rockets, Comp Cams custom Pro pushrods, PRC .600 Beehive springs, light exhaust port, clean up and slight port. Or with my ported and polished MAF, Balduccis Racing rebuilt trans with extra Red Alto clutches and steels, new lightweight flex plate and CircleD 3000 rpm stall. Custom VMS tune. I will always wonder what it would have done with all the new goodies. I fixed everything right before I traded it in, I put new Russel ss brake lines, changed diff fluid, put on new FE3 GXP struts and shocks, BMR poly bushings, Whiteline
Poly bearings. New EBC rotors and Hawk Performance's HPS braking compound with unique Ferro-Carbon matrix. I was preparing the car for long distance travel this summer, then decided on the SHO and a warranty, AWD was a definite plus.
After the dealer bend over encounter and the G8 traded in, I got a FORD Taurus SHO -2013 with Performance package , 35,500 miles, Ford certified, 402a package, and moonroof. Black with metalflake exterior and with charcoal and black leather interior. It has new Chinese Zenna Argus UHP tires rated 420 AA/A. Cool looking tread pattern, but all season not PP spec summer tires. I looked them up on net and they had a following saying works as good any good UHP tire and got great marks from M3 guys and Mustang guys. I can't break them loose in the rain , seem a little loud but drive smooth, straight and has great traction so far in mostly wet NJ conditions.
Unfortunately I have only been able to drive the SHO in the rain, 136 miles and now it is in the shop.
Wiper fluid motor. No fluid squirting. Reservoir is full. Dead no noise.
Distinct whining gear noise middle of car, worse faster you go, over 35  gets real loud at 65.
The Rpm flutters on the tach, like bad plugs, or missing...The car set a SES code on dash.(p0456-purge valve gross leak detected)
The tach needle flutters just above 500, ....low?
Stalled at idle 4 times, once at a light....but starts right back up. Seems to drive ok, no odd noises, taps or smoke. The
Brake fluid is like Belgium chocolate brown.
The dealer called said, wiper fluid motor is dead,the stalling and rpm fluttering was  purge valve leak and the whine is from the rear axle, and they are replacing the axle but may take up to a week to get parts. This is my SHO introduction....

Sp542@.028, windstorm CAI, MSD coils, AO GH TUNE, GH intercooler, All Amsoil, General Gmax-rs summer tires, +PP, PP PADS,EDC rotors, Colinite 476s wax, used PPE DPs, Resonator | 3rd Cat Delete with custom X pipe, Dicunzolo Gen2 Trans Mounts|, 3 bar, stock thermostat,  TRACY LEWIS DESIGNED Team RXP, the Original oil separator.

ZSHO

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Welcome aboard the E.B.P.F Joe & neighbor,i'm out in Jersey almost every weekend visiting law enforcement buddy's of mine,when did you purchase the SHO? It sounds like the dealer is taking good care of you considering the Diagnosis and hopefully there providing you with a loaner,best of luck and keep us updated and thanks for joining.  Z


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

SHOdded

Welcome, avidmotion, glad to have another Gen 2 owner on here :D  Congrats on picking up the '13 SHO!  Seems like it does need some TLC though, and it is now in the right hands for that!  Yeah, would have been cool to get some numbers on your G8 with the last mods :(

If the purge valve replacement does not solve the flutter issue, may be looking at a torque converter issue.  Be sure to bring that up in conversation and have them annotate in writing at least.  Confirm that the halfshaft issue does not exist on your SHO.

You'll have to do all the fluids (trans/PTU/RDU [though not RDU in this case]/brake/coolant) before you can even begin to evaluate the car honestly.  Check the hoses, intake tract and intercooler, all that.  If the rear valve cover has not been replaced already, find out whether they will cover under warranty, esp. if you find pooling oil anywhere.

Check out the TSBs/Recalls here:
http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,3836.0.html
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

avidmotion

Thank you, already have a nice list of to do ' s for my "new" car, newer vehicle and warranty was supposed to make my life easier. Going to miss that header v8 combo and rear wheel drive locking differential torque, stoplight King!
Sp542@.028, windstorm CAI, MSD coils, AO GH TUNE, GH intercooler, All Amsoil, General Gmax-rs summer tires, +PP, PP PADS,EDC rotors, Colinite 476s wax, used PPE DPs, Resonator | 3rd Cat Delete with custom X pipe, Dicunzolo Gen2 Trans Mounts|, 3 bar, stock thermostat,  TRACY LEWIS DESIGNED Team RXP, the Original oil separator.

sholxgt

Welcome avid!

I don't think you'll miss that rear drive combo once you bring the SHO up on boost and launch with the traction control turned off.  In completely stock trim, these cars pull 1.7-1.8 short times and it's repeatable on most road surfaces.

None of my rear drive cars could do that on the street without slicks.
Current - 2019 F150 Platinum FX4 3.5 EB
Formerly -2013 MKS Ecoboost Premium
PPE Catted DP's, 170 Reische TS, K&N Drop In, AJP Tune only at track - 12.87@106

glock-coma

2010 red candy metallic non PP 402B
AJPTURBO 2 BAR Tune Stock 14.1@100.3 / Tuned 12.83@107.7
K&N panel, RX OCC, Sp-534 @.30 Tint 50%F-35%R BOV bypass
1997 SHO silver frost (sold)
1990 SHO triple black 5-speed (saved my life)

avidmotion

Well I should have read these posts over again.....have new PTU, new rear differential axle end to axle end, now have rear oil separator valve cover problem Ford cpo warranty will not cover, driver side mirror is nearly black, not under warranty.  Ford wants 330 to replace. (Wants 750+ for oil separator ).....passengers side turbo leak, though they say it's the oil separator making the turbo all oily wet....I think I should have kept the G8........
Sp542@.028, windstorm CAI, MSD coils, AO GH TUNE, GH intercooler, All Amsoil, General Gmax-rs summer tires, +PP, PP PADS,EDC rotors, Colinite 476s wax, used PPE DPs, Resonator | 3rd Cat Delete with custom X pipe, Dicunzolo Gen2 Trans Mounts|, 3 bar, stock thermostat,  TRACY LEWIS DESIGNED Team RXP, the Original oil separator.