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H&R Springs,Motorcraft,Strut,Shocks Install!!

Started by ZSHO, September 07, 2017, 09:30:13 AM

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Macgyver

Quote from: ZSHO on September 16, 2017, 01:33:09 PM
(Quick Update)  coming from a Big-Naughty-4400 lb-Girl.

Good thing this big girls still has a gap. Not many do when they get large and lower. LOLOL

ZSHO

#16
Here are a couple of closeup pics of the Front for comparison. Z  :)     
                                            Before


                                              After


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

Macgyver

Yeah that looks perfect. I am not gonna do Coil overs on her so Springs it is after the AJP tune.

ZSHO

#18
Here's another quick update after a couple hundred miles!!!

1)Took out the family and the wife noticed the car bouncing immediately and had no clue the springs were changed.

2)Wife opens the passenger door and scrapes the door on the curb.

3)During a highway cruise the wife says she feels like vomiting.

4)Son later states that he feels nauseous.

5)First time in four years i bottom out when driving alone.

Here are my final thoughts!!!. Its my DD So if you live in a tough terrain area,roads a second car is a must,thanks.  Z


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

SHOdded

2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

ZSHO



2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

SHOdded

2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

ZSHO

Quote from: SHOdded on September 22, 2017, 07:42:36 AM
I see your strategy now ... LOL!
MANU you know me good. Lol.
Don't you love when a plan comes together .Z  :)


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

hawkeye93

#23
Quote from: ZSHO on September 07, 2017, 09:30:13 AM
The H&R Springs should be here Tomorrow,along with a set of MC front struts and figured let me kill two birds with one stone while in the process.lol.  Z

The Motorcraft front Struts can be found below for my 13 PP-SHO.  Z  :)

MOTORCRAFT AST12321 {#AST12256, DG1Z18124U} Front Left; w/ Black Calipers; w/o Painted Calipers
   
$54.79  
MOTORCRAFT AST12323 {#AST12257, DG1Z18124W} Front Right; w/ Black Calipers; w/o Painted Calipers
$54.79

Grand Total $113.09 which includes shipping for the Struts.

http://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/ford,2013,taurus,3.5l+v6+turbocharged,1503823,suspension,strut,7584

13+NON-PP SHO Front Struts Part numbers can be found below.

MOTORCRAFT AST12329 {#AST12250, DG1Z18124E, DG1Z18124Y}
Front Left; w/ Painted Calipers
$52.99

MOTORCRAFT AST12328 {#AST12251, DG1Z18124F, DG1Z18124X}
Front Right; w/ Painted Calipers
$54.89

Z, not to be a *ick, but I think you have the PP and non-PP parts reversed.  I looked up the parts for my 2015 PP on Tasca's site, and it shows the DG1Z-18124-X and -Y for "W/SHO PKG 1," and -U and -W for "W/O SHO PKG 1."  If you installed the non-PP struts, that might explain the nauseating ride.

Also, using the non-PP struts may cause them to fail prematurely.  The Tire Rack reviews of the H&R springs include a guy who installed KYB GR-2 shocks & struts on his BMW, and they couldn't handle the rate of the springs.
2015 Ford Taurus SHO PP 12.219@112.84
PPE catless DP, Gearhead IC, SP-534, Reische 170, 3 bar, hybrid meth system, tunes from Unleashed, Livernois, Brew City Boost & AJP

1965 Ford Mustang Convertible 289 4V/T5Z/3.55
1955 Ford Fairlane Club Sedan 272 4V/Fordomatic

ZSHO

Quote from: hawkeye93 on September 22, 2017, 09:12:34 AM
Quote from: ZSHO on September 07, 2017, 09:30:13 AM
The H&R Springs should be here Tomorrow,along with a set of MC front struts and figured let me kill two birds with one stone while in the process.lol.  Z

The Motorcraft front Struts can be found below for my 13 PP-SHO.  Z  :)

MOTORCRAFT AST12321 {#AST12256, DG1Z18124U} Front Left; w/ Black Calipers; w/o Painted Calipers
   
$54.79  
MOTORCRAFT AST12323 {#AST12257, DG1Z18124W} Front Right; w/ Black Calipers; w/o Painted Calipers
$54.79

Grand Total $113.09 which includes shipping for the Struts.

http://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/ford,2013,taurus,3.5l+v6+turbocharged,1503823,suspension,strut,7584

13+NON-PP SHO Front Struts Part numbers can be found below.

MOTORCRAFT AST12329 {#AST12250, DG1Z18124E, DG1Z18124Y}
Front Left; w/ Painted Calipers
$52.99

MOTORCRAFT AST12328 {#AST12251, DG1Z18124F, DG1Z18124X}
Front Right; w/ Painted Calipers
$54.89

Z, not to be a *ick, but I think you have the PP and non-PP parts reversed.  I looked up the parts for my 2015 PP on Tasca's site, and it shows the DG1Z-18124-X and -Y for "W/SHO PKG 1," and -U and -W for "W/O SHO PKG 1."  If you installed the non-PP struts, that might explain the nauseating ride.

Also, using the non-PP struts may cause them to fail prematurely.  The Tire Rack reviews of the H&R springs include a guy who installed KYB GR-2 shocks & struts on his BMW, and they couldn't handle the rate of the springs.
I verified and confirmed it with my Ford dealer and www.fordparts.com which is based on your actual vin number. Z

PP -Struts- MOTORCRAFT AST12321   DG1Z18124U
PP-Struts-  MOTORCRAFT AST12323    DG1Z18124W

Rear Shocks PP-SHO. 18125(ASH-23482) DG1Z-18125-F

http://www.fordparts.com/Commerce/CatalogResults.aspx?v=1fahp2kt5dg183206&cat=Suspension&catId=40792865&scat=Shocks+and+Struts&scatId=40845281#Search


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

hawkeye93

#25
But the VIN doesn't include option info, like PP.  Also, it would seem to make sense that the PP parts would have "later" part numbers.  I think you have the correct rear shocks, but the wrong front struts.

Don't take my word for it:

https://www.tascaparts.com/oem-parts/ford-strut-dg1z18124u/

https://www.tascaparts.com/oem-parts/ford-strut-dg1z18124x/
2015 Ford Taurus SHO PP 12.219@112.84
PPE catless DP, Gearhead IC, SP-534, Reische 170, 3 bar, hybrid meth system, tunes from Unleashed, Livernois, Brew City Boost & AJP

1965 Ford Mustang Convertible 289 4V/T5Z/3.55
1955 Ford Fairlane Club Sedan 272 4V/Fordomatic

ZSHO

#26
Quote from: hawkeye93 on September 22, 2017, 10:17:14 AM
But the VIN doesn't include option info, like PP.  Also, it would seem to make sense that the PP parts would have "later" part numbers.  I think you have the correct rear shocks, but the wrong front struts.

Don't take my word for it:

https://www.tascaparts.com/oem-parts/ford-strut-dg1z18124u/

https://www.tascaparts.com/oem-parts/ford-strut-dg1z18124x/
I appreciate your input Hawkeye!!!! but here are the actual PP-SHO Part numbers. Z

PP -Struts-  MOTORCRAFT AST12321   DG1Z18124U
PP- Struts-  MOTORCRAFT AST12323    DG1Z18124W




2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

hawkeye93

Do you still have the ones you replaced?  What part numbers do they have?
2015 Ford Taurus SHO PP 12.219@112.84
PPE catless DP, Gearhead IC, SP-534, Reische 170, 3 bar, hybrid meth system, tunes from Unleashed, Livernois, Brew City Boost & AJP

1965 Ford Mustang Convertible 289 4V/T5Z/3.55
1955 Ford Fairlane Club Sedan 272 4V/Fordomatic

ZSHO

#28
Quote from: hawkeye93 on September 22, 2017, 10:32:04 AM
Do you still have the ones you replaced?  What part numbers do they have?
There are unfortunately revised part numbers.(supersession).
I also changed the Strut mounts for a peace of mind.
It sounds like you want to change yours too! maybe,perhaps.Lol.  Z


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

hawkeye93

#29
I have considered it, yes.  But not if it's going to be a bouncy ride like you described.  I'm not trying to start a flame war.  I researched the parts on Tasca, and noticed they differed from yours, that's all.

It'll be a while before I install springs.  I have to make sure my new $900 tires go unnoticed first.  The wife is always watching...
2015 Ford Taurus SHO PP 12.219@112.84
PPE catless DP, Gearhead IC, SP-534, Reische 170, 3 bar, hybrid meth system, tunes from Unleashed, Livernois, Brew City Boost & AJP

1965 Ford Mustang Convertible 289 4V/T5Z/3.55
1955 Ford Fairlane Club Sedan 272 4V/Fordomatic