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No Boost Ecoboost... Need help!

Started by Victorious Secret, August 15, 2017, 11:17:18 PM

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derfdog15

Quote from: sholxgt on August 18, 2017, 01:05:31 PM
Nope, not normal :(  Looks like at minimum the seal has gone bad.

How many miles on the car?  Any warranty by chance?

If not, I'd say it's time for a turbo upgrade :)

Seconded. For sure sure looks like the seal has blown. Brad may have more insight, but IMO, blown seal could be leading to turbulence, etc. within the signal the ECM/PCM is recieving, leading to the wastegate command as a fail safe of sorts.

How does the other turbo look?
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2016 F150 FX4 Sport - 3.5L V6 Ecoboost - Stock for now

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Victorious Secret

No warranty, 72k and some change, just tried contacting Mike at EPP for a stock turbo upgrade with billet wheels.

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Victorious Secret

With the side to side play I had in my turbo(s) will I be able to simply replace the CHRA?

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Victorious Secret

Got two new OEM turbos and mounting hardware ordered anyone interested in oem outer housing for $250 a piece plus shipping? That's core refund price at Ford. Mike assured me the outer shells would work withe new CHRA just decide to go this route.

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ZSHO

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Quote from: Victorious Secret on August 20, 2017, 09:41:32 AM
Got two new OEM turbos and mounting hardware ordered anyone interested in oem outer housing for $250 a piece plus shipping? That's core refund price at Ford. Mike assured me the outer shells would work withe new CHRA just decide to go this route.

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Due post a pic of the items up for sale with your "username" on a post it as per Forum rules in the dedicated section below,thanks and best of luck with the install. Z

https://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/board,30.0.html


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

Victorious Secret

My bad. Once they are off the vehicle I will put in classified section. Just gauging interest.

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SHOdded

Check the oil feed lines also as they are known to leak.  Might be worth replacing outright at the same time.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

Victorious Secret

Solid recommendation. After doing some research Chilton suggests removing the front lower subframe assembly to R&R the right hand turbo. Is this absolutely necessary or have other members completed a RH turbo swap on the SHO without removing the subframe? If so to any members how did you complete the task and what are some tips and techniques, I should keep in mind?

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Victorious Secret

Turbochargers and mounting harware arrived today. Then off to Revolutions Performance here in Colorado Springs for installation. I hope to have all this worked out by the end of the week. More to follow.

BTW, was just in San Antonio visiting family. God bless those in the path of Hurricane Harvey, my hat goes off to the volunteer and communities that are coming together to help one another out.

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SHOdded

Glad to hear the community feeling is alive & well.  Best wishes & prayers.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

JDW1

So you could have used your old turbo with new CHRA from EPP? 

I just replaced my PCV and ancillary parts but still have power loss.  I'm hoping it's not the turbos but planning for the worst. 


Quote from: ZSHO on August 20, 2017, 09:47:21 AM
Quote from: Victorious Secret on August 20, 2017, 09:41:32 AM
Got two new OEM turbos and mounting hardware ordered anyone interested in oem outer housing for $250 a piece plus shipping? That's core refund price at Ford. Mike assured me the outer shells would work withe new CHRA just decide to go this route.

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Due post a pic of the items up for sale with your "username" on a post it as per Forum rules in the dedicated section below,thanks and best of luck with the install. Z

https://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/board,30.0.html
13 SHO, Unleashed 3bar Tune, 1 step cooler NGK's, MDesign CAI, 170 t-stat and meth.

Victorious Secret

Absolutely the CHRA'S could have been replaced. The housing were undamaged. It seems pretty simple once the turbo's are out. I went this route for the warranty provided on the OEM parts and had a performance shop do the work since I really wasn't comfortable dropping the sub-assembly or engine cradle.

I will let you know and post the pics once the turbos are removed and replaced.

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JDW1

Good to know.  Interested in performance boost on those upgraded CHRA's too.  Thanks. 


Quote from: Victorious Secret on September 06, 2017, 09:19:33 AM
Absolutely the CHRA'S could have been replaced. The housing were undamaged. It seems pretty simple once the turbo's are out. I went this route for the warranty provided on the OEM parts and had a performance shop do the work since I really wasn't comfortable dropping the sub-assembly or engine cradle.

I will let you know and post the pics once the turbos are removed and replaced.

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13 SHO, Unleashed 3bar Tune, 1 step cooler NGK's, MDesign CAI, 170 t-stat and meth.

Victorious Secret

Got my SHO back yesterday, special thanks to Revolutions Performance here in Colorado Springs for doing a phenomenal job.

She easily hitting and holding commanded boost, now to finish up the tuning.

The problem was the front turbo was completely blown, with tons of side to side shaft play. The fins had hit the sides of the housing. The  rear turbo was good but I had both turbos replaced.

Thanks for all the help and support you guys. Even though the outcome was near worst case scenario the SHO is back on the road and better than ever.




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SHOdded

Jaw dropping silence.  Wow, blown turbo.  These things crap at a moment's notice.  Gotta b careful making mods to an obviously complex system.

Hooray for getting up and running so quick, always a mood lifter!
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!