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E85 Blenders please chime in.

Started by Blackhawk, August 14, 2017, 02:37:04 PM

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Colorado-SHOBro

Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on August 20, 2017, 11:18:07 AM
Quote from: Colorado-SHOBro on August 15, 2017, 01:28:39 PM
QuoteI've tested every possible blend, including straight E85...
FoMo. . . Are you pretty settled in on E45 tune in your sig being the happy place for the blends you've tested? At a certain level did you reach a point of diminishing returns on increasing the Ethanol content? Just curious for some feedback since your the pioneer of the E blend testing with Brad.
Love E45...easy to mix and now we have full pressure on the rail...Brad is a tuning wizard!

I think the point of diminishing returns is about E65 but don't get me wrong, E45 has plenty of effective octane.
nice. what sort of mpg you seeing w/ the E45?
i just stepped from E20 to E30 and the FRP didn't drop any measurable amount so i'm curious how much E the car would handle( i also have the wastegate mod which helps). IIRC 13+ cars can maintain a little more rail pressure than my 11 tho


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11' SHO Tuxedo Metallic black-non PP | Highly sophisticated high altitude custom AJP Turbo E30 3Bar tune w/Wastegate mod | Cat'd ceramic PPE downpipes |170 stat| SP542 plugs .028 | PP trans cooler | H&R springs | RX catch can

12.8@108 @ 6,000ft DA.

FoMoCoSHO

Quote from: Colorado-SHOBro on August 20, 2017, 12:33:35 PM
Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on August 20, 2017, 11:18:07 AM
Quote from: Colorado-SHOBro on August 15, 2017, 01:28:39 PM
QuoteI've tested every possible blend, including straight E85...
FoMo. . . Are you pretty settled in on E45 tune in your sig being the happy place for the blends you've tested? At a certain level did you reach a point of diminishing returns on increasing the Ethanol content? Just curious for some feedback since your the pioneer of the E blend testing with Brad.
Love E45...easy to mix and now we have full pressure on the rail...Brad is a tuning wizard!

I think the point of diminishing returns is about E65 but don't get me wrong, E45 has plenty of effective octane.
nice. what sort of mpg you seeing w/ the E45?
i just stepped from E20 to E30 and the FRP didn't drop any measurable amount so i'm curious how much E the car would handle( i also have the wastegate mod which helps). IIRC 13+ cars can maintain a little more rail pressure than my 11 tho


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19.3 last tank... 20 minutes HWY + 20 city twice daily 5 days a week.


f8tlSHO

I just drove about 100 miles prob 75 miles highway.. with cruise at 63mph. Avg mpg was 28.2 on e30


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2013 Non PP Unleashed 93 E20 3 Bar Tune, K&N drop in 12.491 @ 110.96 120's IAT
Now tuned by ajp...looking to go faster
E30 tune on14psi full weight including 2 child seats,race like a real street car.
12.433 @110.8 140's IAT; Mustang Dyno 332hp / 386tq

SHOdded

2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

joe raptor

How much e-blend to use in the car safely ? Can I go 50-50 ?? I have now e-30 :-)

FoMoCoSHO

Quote from: joe raptor on August 22, 2017, 10:56:51 AM
How much e-blend to use in the car safely ? Can I go 50-50 ?? I have now e-30 :-)
Not unless you're willing to change when and how much power enrichment is applied.




f8tlSHO

Quote from: SHOdded on August 21, 2017, 10:49:20 PM
Pretty good for E30
On the way to my destination I only got about 20.5mpg, but my avg speed was closer to 75-80 still using cruise control. Which I thought was a drastic change for 10-15 mph


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2013 Non PP Unleashed 93 E20 3 Bar Tune, K&N drop in 12.491 @ 110.96 120's IAT
Now tuned by ajp...looking to go faster
E30 tune on14psi full weight including 2 child seats,race like a real street car.
12.433 @110.8 140's IAT; Mustang Dyno 332hp / 386tq

SHOdded

Ya, fell off a cliff there.  Wonder why.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

f8tlSHO

Quote from: SHOdded on August 22, 2017, 05:56:53 PM
Ya, fell off a cliff there.  Wonder why.
I thought about logging it... lol


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2013 Non PP Unleashed 93 E20 3 Bar Tune, K&N drop in 12.491 @ 110.96 120's IAT
Now tuned by ajp...looking to go faster
E30 tune on14psi full weight including 2 child seats,race like a real street car.
12.433 @110.8 140's IAT; Mustang Dyno 332hp / 386tq

Brucelinc

With my old MKS as well as my new Conti, I have found that speed makes a huge difference.  Driven in the 60 MPH range, my MKS would get close to 30 MPG but at 75-80 it would be closer to 24-25. 

Regarding E85, my wife's naturally aspirated Taurus is a flex fuel vehicle but E85 drops the mileage pretty dramatically - at least 4 MPG.  On the flip side, I have been running one of Brad's E-tunes in my Continental and using approximately an E40 blend and my fuel mileage is just as good or better as when I run E10.  Apparently, the advanced timing is making up for typical characteristics of poorer mileage with Ethanol. 

f8tlSHO

Quote from: Brucelinc on August 23, 2017, 09:23:00 AM
With my old MKS as well as my new Conti, I have found that speed makes a huge difference.  Driven in the 60 MPH range, my MKS would get close to 30 MPG but at 75-80 it would be closer to 24-25. 

Regarding E85, my wife's naturally aspirated Taurus is a flex fuel vehicle but E85 drops the mileage pretty dramatically - at least 4 MPG.  On the flip side, I have been running one of Brad's E-tunes in my Continental and using approximately an E40 blend and my fuel mileage is just as good or better as when I run E10.  Apparently, the advanced timing is making up for typical characteristics of poorer mileage with Ethanol.
You dog!!!! Already at e40!!!! Lol


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2013 Non PP Unleashed 93 E20 3 Bar Tune, K&N drop in 12.491 @ 110.96 120's IAT
Now tuned by ajp...looking to go faster
E30 tune on14psi full weight including 2 child seats,race like a real street car.
12.433 @110.8 140's IAT; Mustang Dyno 332hp / 386tq

Brucelinc

Quote from: f8tlSHO on August 23, 2017, 01:50:31 PM
Quote from: Brucelinc on August 23, 2017, 09:23:00 AM
With my old MKS as well as my new Conti, I have found that speed makes a huge difference.  Driven in the 60 MPH range, my MKS would get close to 30 MPG but at 75-80 it would be closer to 24-25. 

Regarding E85, my wife's naturally aspirated Taurus is a flex fuel vehicle but E85 drops the mileage pretty dramatically - at least 4 MPG.  On the flip side, I have been running one of Brad's E-tunes in my Continental and using approximately an E40 blend and my fuel mileage is just as good or better as when I run E10.  Apparently, the advanced timing is making up for typical characteristics of poorer mileage with Ethanol.
You dog!!!! Already at e40!!!! Lol
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Only to save a few cents on fuel, you understand.  Only an unruly hooligan would have an E40 tune in their Continental for performance gains.   :laughing1:

StealBlueSho

Quote from: Brucelinc on August 23, 2017, 02:36:46 PM
Quote from: f8tlSHO on August 23, 2017, 01:50:31 PM
Quote from: Brucelinc on August 23, 2017, 09:23:00 AM
With my old MKS as well as my new Conti, I have found that speed makes a huge difference.  Driven in the 60 MPH range, my MKS would get close to 30 MPG but at 75-80 it would be closer to 24-25. 

Regarding E85, my wife's naturally aspirated Taurus is a flex fuel vehicle but E85 drops the mileage pretty dramatically - at least 4 MPG.  On the flip side, I have been running one of Brad's E-tunes in my Continental and using approximately an E40 blend and my fuel mileage is just as good or better as when I run E10.  Apparently, the advanced timing is making up for typical characteristics of poorer mileage with Ethanol.
You dog!!!! Already at e40!!!! Lol
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Only to save a few cents on fuel, you understand.  Only an unruly hooligan would have an E40 tune in their Continental for performance gains.   :laughing1:


And from what I hear wants his AFR darn near close to stoich....


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FoMoCoSHO

Quote from: StealBlueSho on August 23, 2017, 09:39:10 PM
Quote from: Brucelinc on August 23, 2017, 02:36:46 PM
Quote from: f8tlSHO on August 23, 2017, 01:50:31 PM
Quote from: Brucelinc on August 23, 2017, 09:23:00 AM
With my old MKS as well as my new Conti, I have found that speed makes a huge difference.  Driven in the 60 MPH range, my MKS would get close to 30 MPG but at 75-80 it would be closer to 24-25. 

Regarding E85, my wife's naturally aspirated Taurus is a flex fuel vehicle but E85 drops the mileage pretty dramatically - at least 4 MPG.  On the flip side, I have been running one of Brad's E-tunes in my Continental and using approximately an E40 blend and my fuel mileage is just as good or better as when I run E10.  Apparently, the advanced timing is making up for typical characteristics of poorer mileage with Ethanol.
You dog!!!! Already at e40!!!! Lol
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Only to save a few cents on fuel, you understand.  Only an unruly hooligan would have an E40 tune in their Continental for performance gains.   :laughing1:


And from what I hear wants his AFR darn near close to stoich....


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Lol,  I thought it was just me...

FoMoCoSHO

If I had a beefy pump like Bruce's conti I would upblend to E65 and turn off enrichment completely.

Let's get real, I'm gonna do it anyway.

For science.

Lol.