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Started by ecobeast13, July 23, 2017, 07:05:59 PM

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SilvererSHO

I run Firestone Firehawk Indy 500's which is a summer tire only.  Very happy with them so far.  I've put about 14,000 miles on them since mounting them back in April, rotated them once and really don't notice much wear yet.  I feel pretty confident I'll get 35,000-40,000 miles out of them.  Now I just need to get some 18" All-Seasons for the winter.
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avidmotion

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bpd1151

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I recently parted ways with my tried, true, and long trusted Continental Extreme Contact DWS's and have chosen to replace them with a new set of Nitto NT555 G2's instead.

The Conti's served me incredibly well I must say, and I highly recommend their use.

However, this change was prompted primarily due to the fact that I no longer drive my SHO in the winter, and also no longer use it as a DD.

Opting for a performance only rated tire, rather than a dedicated all season variant, was appropriate given my aforementioned change in driving habits.

Initial reactions are the Nitto's seem quieter,  and more controlled/responsive than the Conti's

Don't really have enough mileage on them to report anything more than that at this time. The sidewall design does look more appealing IMHO.



StealBlueSho

I have BFGoodrich Sport Comp 2 Summer Tires... 245/45/20's. They are OK for daily driving and do well in the rain. They are terrible in the snow (but the are summer only tires sooo can't hold that against them) and DECENT at best on the track.

They handle much better in the twisties than they do in a straight line. For 1/4 mile runs they really need to be warmed up which we can't do, so no matter how I launch I always get some wheel spin.. frustrating to say the least.

IMHO I would NOT recommend these tires. 

AJP turbo

Quote from: bpd1151 on March 26, 2018, 03:12:05 AM
I recently parted ways with my tried, true, and long trusted Continental Extreme Contact DWS's




Probably because they were old and crusty and dry rotted from lack of use lol
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derfdog15

Quote from: Agentlongwood on July 24, 2017, 12:37:05 PM
I'm in Florida so I run can run a summer tire all year.  I stay away from All-Seasons since there is no need in my climate.  For a summer tire, I cannot recommend the Michelin Pilot Super Sport enough.  I ran them on my previous car (Lexus GS430) and they actually do live up to the hype.  The car stopped HARD during the 2 real panic stops I made while running that tire.  They have amazing grip in the wet, which does matter a lot in Orlando.  That's my $.02

I still usually run all seasons on cars that don't see winter, for daily duty anyway, since they handle wet conditions much better than pure summers. That said, I am going to be running NT555s on my mustang in 315/35 on the rear and I enjoy the nittos. I would have gladly gone to a nitto on my SHO if it wasn't a DD.

Quote from: stealbluesho on March 26, 2018, 08:38:33 AM
I have BFGoodrich Sport Comp 2 Summer Tires... 245/45/20's. They are OK for daily driving and do well in the rain. They are terrible in the snow (but the are summer only tires sooo can't hold that against them) and DECENT at best on the track.

They handle much better in the twisties than they do in a straight line. For 1/4 mile runs they really need to be warmed up which we can't do, so no matter how I launch I always get some wheel spin.. frustrating to say the least.

IMHO I would NOT recommend these tires. 

I ran the sport comp 2 A/S and they actually handled snow pretty alright. Hooked pretty nice as well. To warm mine up I would hot lap the car with a few hard launches. If it was a slow night you could do some john force length launches and back up to staging again.

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StealBlueSho

Quote from: derfdog15 on March 26, 2018, 10:23:26 AM
Quote from: Agentlongwood on July 24, 2017, 12:37:05 PM
I'm in Florida so I run can run a summer tire all year.  I stay away from All-Seasons since there is no need in my climate.  For a summer tire, I cannot recommend the Michelin Pilot Super Sport enough.  I ran them on my previous car (Lexus GS430) and they actually do live up to the hype.  The car stopped HARD during the 2 real panic stops I made while running that tire.  They have amazing grip in the wet, which does matter a lot in Orlando.  That's my $.02

I still usually run all seasons on cars that don't see winter, for daily duty anyway, since they handle wet conditions much better than pure summers. That said, I am going to be running NT555s on my mustang in 315/35 on the rear and I enjoy the nittos. I would have gladly gone to a nitto on my SHO if it wasn't a DD.

Quote from: stealbluesho on March 26, 2018, 08:38:33 AM
I have BFGoodrich Sport Comp 2 Summer Tires... 245/45/20's. They are OK for daily driving and do well in the rain. They are terrible in the snow (but the are summer only tires sooo can't hold that against them) and DECENT at best on the track.

They handle much better in the twisties than they do in a straight line. For 1/4 mile runs they really need to be warmed up which we can't do, so no matter how I launch I always get some wheel spin.. frustrating to say the least.

IMHO I would NOT recommend these tires. 

I ran the sport comp 2 A/S and they actually handled snow pretty alright. Hooked pretty nice as well. To warm mine up I would hot lap the car with a few hard launches. If it was a slow night you could do some john force length launches and back up to staging again.

The A/S are a completely different tire than the summer ones. I would guess for our application the A/S would actually perform better at the track...

Agentlongwood

Quote from: derfdog15 on March 26, 2018, 10:23:26 AM
I still usually run all seasons on cars that don't see winter, for daily duty anyway, since they handle wet conditions much better than pure summers.

Huh?  Summer tires are better in the wet than all seasons.  It rains all the time in summer, so they need to handle water.  The advantage of all seasons is that they maintain traction when it gets colder.  Good summer tires will destroy all seasons in wet traction.
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derfdog15

Quote from: Agentlongwood on March 26, 2018, 11:19:43 AM
Quote from: derfdog15 on March 26, 2018, 10:23:26 AM
I still usually run all seasons on cars that don't see winter, for daily duty anyway, since they handle wet conditions much better than pure summers.

Huh?  Summer tires are better in the wet than all seasons.  It rains all the time in summer, so they need to handle water.  The advantage of all seasons is that they maintain traction when it gets colder.  Good summer tires will destroy all seasons in wet traction.

Probably should clarify. My 'pure summer' definition is restricted to tires like NT555s, which are HORRIBLE in the wet, especially when they're almost 11 inches wide (315/35/17). I'll take an A/S in the wet anyday over an NT555. I guess a legit summer like a pilot sport, or goodyear F1 would be a different story, but I've never run something like that on the back of my stang.
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SilvererSHO

Quote from: Agentlongwood on March 26, 2018, 11:19:43 AM
Quote from: derfdog15 on March 26, 2018, 10:23:26 AM
I still usually run all seasons on cars that don't see winter, for daily duty anyway, since they handle wet conditions much better than pure summers.

Huh?  Summer tires are better in the wet than all seasons.  It rains all the time in summer, so they need to handle water.  The advantage of all seasons is that they maintain traction when it gets colder.  Good summer tires will destroy all seasons in wet traction.


That may be true, but I can't see a dedicated summer tire resisting hydroplaning in HEAVY rain and/or standing water like an All Season tire will.
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Agentlongwood

Quote from: SilvererSHO on March 26, 2018, 04:10:42 PM
Quote from: Agentlongwood on March 26, 2018, 11:19:43 AM
Quote from: derfdog15 on March 26, 2018, 10:23:26 AM
I still usually run all seasons on cars that don't see winter, for daily duty anyway, since they handle wet conditions much better than pure summers.

Huh?  Summer tires are better in the wet than all seasons.  It rains all the time in summer, so they need to handle water.  The advantage of all seasons is that they maintain traction when it gets colder.  Good summer tires will destroy all seasons in wet traction.


That may be true, but I can't see a dedicated summer tire resisting hydroplaning in HEAVY rain and/or standing water like an All Season tire will.
Summer tires are designed to resist hydroplaning. Their compound and tread pattern specifically, are what allow that. All seasons give up wet traction and hydroplane resistance in order to gain cold weather traction and some snow capability. Track tires are an exception. But any summer tire should have better hydroplane resistance than it's all season counterpart. (Pilot super sport vs pilot sport a/s 3, for example)

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Leadfoot

I'm on the second set of Continental DSW 06 tires. the first set lasted 40K but started sounding like a bad hub when they were worn. They're much better than the original Michelins that came with the car, softer ride but holds the corners much better. I upsized to 255 45 20s, fills the wheelwells and no rubbing.
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lamrith

While I have not changed tires on the SHO, I put new tires on my V before I sold it.  I went with the Conti DW (now called Extreme Contact Sport I believe), which is the summer performance version.  I can tell people that they handled rain and wet very very well and they are on the short list of tires for when I need new tires on the SHO. (DW, firehawk Indy500)  I never tracked that car though, so cannot vouch for straight line launch grip.
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TopherSho

I *WANT* those Conti-DWs more than anything.. but they are expensive to replace every 12-18 months..
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avidmotion

I really had good luck and loved the gmax 03 on my G8 gt rwd, so I was going to do the Gmax 05, then I got the ok from the wife to go summers.....I think i will do 245 45 20 with the new GMAX RS summer tire, word is they are awesome. Walmart online 135 shipped for the 245, 360 AA A
http://www.hotrod.com/articles/game-changer-new-g-max-uhp-breaks-pricegrip-barrier/
Also found a 70 dollar rebate on 4 generals until 4-15-18, form on general site
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