Rumor - Ford Ecoboost DI Retrofit Kit for Ecoboost Gen 1 Engines

[Lexingtonian]

I was hanging with some friends over the weekend. One of them works at a Ford Truck Manufacturing facility. (This is just about the point where you can take me with a grain of salt. By the way)

We were talking Ford trucks, then the Ecoboost Engine and I naturally asked if he was aware of the Valve Coking issue (I was curious what he knew). He was aware and began telling me how they've hopefully fixed it in the Gen 2 engines (which I already knew) by fueling some above the valves to keep them clean. It was then that he said something I hadn't heard. He said some of the Michigan guys were in recently talking about that issue and said they were looking to develop a retrofit kit for Gen 1 engines for valve cleaning which should run around $1200 and should be an easy install. That's where my ears when to defcon 1. I began asking questions about it as he said it was to be designed to be easy to install. Which got me thinking about the additional "bits" required and then I began asking questions about the "easy" part as it would seem to me that a injectors would need to be added at top of the intake (sounds like drilling required), fuel rail changes and ECM Programming to make the system aware of such a kit. That's where his knowledge was limited and he really didn't know the logistics of it. Just that it was something that was being discussed.

I know this sounds like a pretty, "Hey, I have a buddy of a buddy of a buddy that works at Ford that told me......" narrative but I'm simply sharing what was discussed. I'm curious, those of you more intimate with the Ecoboost 3.5, what would theoretically be needed to retrofit a top of valve cleaning kit?

I hadn't seen this posted anywhere else so I thought I'd drop it here. If it's something that's already been discussed by all means remove the thread.

Thanks all

Lex -

[TopherSho]

I was hanging with some friends over the weekend. One of them works at a Ford Truck Manufacturing facility. (This is just about the point where you can take me with a grain of salt. By the way)

We were talking Ford trucks, then the Ecoboost Engine and I naturally asked if he was aware of the Valve Coking issue (I was curious what he knew). He was aware and began telling me how they've hopefully fixed it in the Gen 2 engines (which I already knew) by fueling some above the valves to keep them clean. It was then that he said something I hadn't heard. He said some of the Michigan guys were in recently talking about that issue and said they were looking to develop a retrofit kit for Gen 1 engines for valve cleaning which should run around $1200 and should be an easy install. That's where my ears when to defcon 1. I began asking questions about it as he said it was to be designed to be easy to install. Which got me thinking about the additional "bits" required and then I began asking questions about the "easy" part as it would seem to me that a injectors would need to be added at top of the intake (sounds like drilling required), fuel rail changes and ECM Programming to make the system aware of such a kit. That's where his knowledge was limited and he really didn't know the logistics of it. Just that it was something that was being discussed.

I know this sounds like a pretty, "Hey, I have a buddy of a buddy of a buddy that works at Ford that told me......" narrative but I'm simply sharing what was discussed. I'm curious, those of you more intimate with the Ecoboost 3.5, what would theoretically be needed to retrofit a top of valve cleaning kit?

I hadn't seen this posted anywhere else so I thought I'd drop it here. If it's something that's already been discussed by all means remove the thread.

Thanks all

Lex -

And then you re-purpose it for METH injection

[SHOdded]

Possibly talking about PFI in addition to the DI.  The Japanese have had this combo setup for some time.  The newest Ford GT also has this IIRC.  And Mike of EcoPowerParts has designed & developed the PFI kit for the transverse 3.5EB engines.

Will be interesting if Ford provides such a kit also.

[Gjkrisa]

This would be awesome!
If they do it in a good way that we also can tune the extra injectors although I feel bad for Mike as he's done the hard work already for Ford to just start offering this it's like when someone makes a great app or mod for an iPhone and then apple says sorry we want that you can't get money for your app because we are going to bake it into the os already.

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[Lexingtonian]

I'd just keep in mind that it's vapor at this point. I had no awareness that someone else was developing a kit when I posted. I think that's really encouraging though. I just checked out Mikes Website and appreciate the point that way as well.

[metroplex]

There's a 5th injector kit for the GM LNF (2.0L inline 4 EcoTec GTDI), so this wouldn't be impossible to do on the EcoBoost, just requires hardware, time, etc...

[EcoPowerParts]

I have heard about this for the past year, I hope it does come to fruition but I think it will be tough or you'll have to change your heads as there's no relief for the PFI injector.

[Macgyver]

What year Fords are the Gen 1 motors in ?

[SkinnyTick]

The gen2 is in the new 2017 Raptor, Ford GT and 2017 F150s, everything else is gen1.

Definitely would be nice to get "an easy to instal" retrofit kit.