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PI Brake Question

Started by dubcitySHO, July 02, 2017, 09:36:20 AM

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dubcitySHO

Do the naturally aspirated PI's have the same brakes as the ecoboost PI's, or are they different like the civilian models?

I have first dibs on a totalled naturally aspirated 2014 PI, and see it as a good opportunity for a master cylinder, brake booster, and caliper/disc upgrade for my '12 non-PP if indeed they are an actual upgrade.
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ZSHO

#1
The PI has a HD suspension and brakes similar to the SHO,larger 13" diameter rotors versus the 11" versions on the CVPI. IIRC. Z

Page 8
http://www.ford.com/resources/ford/microsites/policeinterceptor/pdfs/11_NextGenPoliceIntercepBrochure2_lr.pdf

https://www.ford.com/fordpoliceinterceptor/features/#/durability/durability_07/


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

dubcitySHO

Excellent!  Thanks Z! 

2 of the wheels were damaged in the crash, or they would be on my short list as well.
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ZSHO

Do you have any pics to share?  Best of luck to ya. Z


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

dubcitySHO

Only pics I have til tomorrow afternoon.
2018 Magnetic Metallic F-150 XLT FX4 SCrew, 20% 3M Tint, Currently researching reputable F-150 tuners....

Colorado-SHOBro

Quote from: ZSHO on July 02, 2017, 09:51:37 AM
The PI has a HD suspension and brakes similar to the SHO,larger 13" diameter rotors versus the 11" versions on the CVPI. IIRC. Z

Page 8
http://www.ford.com/resources/ford/microsites/policeinterceptor/pdfs/11_NextGenPoliceIntercepBrochure2_lr.pdf

https://www.ford.com/fordpoliceinterceptor/features/#/durability/durability_07/
This might be true but i don't believe an NA PI brake setup is an upgrade for a 10-12 SHO. I'm showing the same 12.8" rotors for the 10-12 SHO and a 13+ NA PI on rockauto. Same part # and all.
Correct me if i'm wrong but i wanted the OP to be sure before he buys parts.
http://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/ford,2013,taurus,3.5l+v6,1503824,brake+&+wheel+hub,rotor,1896
11' SHO Tuxedo Metallic black-non PP | Highly sophisticated high altitude custom AJP Turbo E30 3Bar tune w/Wastegate mod | Cat'd ceramic PPE downpipes |170 stat| SP542 plugs .028 | PP trans cooler | H&R springs | RX catch can

12.8@108 @ 6,000ft DA.

ZSHO

#6
Quote from: Colorado-SHOBro on July 03, 2017, 12:03:41 PM
Quote from: ZSHO on July 02, 2017, 09:51:37 AM
The PI has a HD suspension and brakes similar to the SHO,larger 13" diameter rotors versus the 11" versions on the CVPI. IIRC. Z

Page 8
http://www.ford.com/resources/ford/microsites/policeinterceptor/pdfs/11_NextGenPoliceIntercepBrochure2_lr.pdf

https://www.ford.com/fordpoliceinterceptor/features/#/durability/durability_07/
This might be true but i don't believe an NA PI brake setup is an upgrade for a 10-12 SHO. I'm showing the same 12.8" rotors for the 10-12 SHO and a 13+ NA PI on rockauto. Same part # and all.
Correct me if i'm wrong but i wanted the OP to be sure before he buys parts.
http://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/ford,2013,taurus,3.5l+v6,1503824,brake+&+wheel+hub,rotor,1896
I appreciate your input and would never try to Steer anybody wrong !!!

I specifically quoted the above mentioned article and that was all. Z

HEAVY-DUTY ANTI-LOCK DISC BRAKES CONTRIBUTE TO EXTREME HIGH PERFORMANCE.

Police Interceptor don't just need to go fast, they must also come to rapid halts – under control. Developed in association with the Los Angeles
County Sheriff's Department and the Michigan State Police, this unique system strikes an ideal balance between stopping power and long wear life. It boasts an increased swept area via larger 13" diameter rotors versus the 11" versions on the CVPI.
The unique inverted hat-vented rotor design and unique calipers add to the high thermal capacity.

http://www.ford.com/resources/ford/microsites/policeinterceptor/pdfs/11_NextGenPoliceIntercepBrochure2_lr.pdf


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

dubcitySHO

Vehicle overall is a bust.  The salvage yard doesn't feel the calipers are safe to sell, and the master cylinder reservoir is destroyed.  Rock auto is prob gonna be my source for at least the master cylinder and booster with the gracious code they posted in their vendor thread.
2018 Magnetic Metallic F-150 XLT FX4 SCrew, 20% 3M Tint, Currently researching reputable F-150 tuners....

Colorado-SHOBro

Quote from: ZSHO on July 03, 2017, 01:01:50 PM
Quote from: Colorado-SHOBro on July 03, 2017, 12:03:41 PM
Quote from: ZSHO on July 02, 2017, 09:51:37 AM
The PI has a HD suspension and brakes similar to the SHO,larger 13" diameter rotors versus the 11" versions on the CVPI. IIRC. Z

Page 8
http://www.ford.com/resources/ford/microsites/policeinterceptor/pdfs/11_NextGenPoliceIntercepBrochure2_lr.pdf

https://www.ford.com/fordpoliceinterceptor/features/#/durability/durability_07/
This might be true but i don't believe an NA PI brake setup is an upgrade for a 10-12 SHO. I'm showing the same 12.8" rotors for the 10-12 SHO and a 13+ NA PI on rockauto. Same part # and all.
Correct me if i'm wrong but i wanted the OP to be sure before he buys parts.
http://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/ford,2013,taurus,3.5l+v6,1503824,brake+&+wheel+hub,rotor,1896
I appreciate your input and would never try to Steer anybody wrong !!!

I specifically quoted the above mentioned article and that was all. Z

HEAVY-DUTY ANTI-LOCK DISC BRAKES CONTRIBUTE TO EXTREME HIGH PERFORMANCE.

Police Interceptor don't just need to go fast, they must also come to rapid halts – under control. Developed in association with the Los Angeles
County Sheriff's Department and the Michigan State Police, this unique system strikes an ideal balance between stopping power and long wear life. It boasts an increased swept area via larger 13" diameter rotors versus the 11" versions on the CVPI.
The unique inverted hat-vented rotor design and unique calipers add to the high thermal capacity.

http://www.ford.com/resources/ford/microsites/policeinterceptor/pdfs/11_NextGenPoliceIntercepBrochure2_lr.pdf
right. all correct and good info as usual Z. I just wanted to give the OP a fair warning that the police brake system may not offer much of an upgrade on a 10-12 SHO.


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11' SHO Tuxedo Metallic black-non PP | Highly sophisticated high altitude custom AJP Turbo E30 3Bar tune w/Wastegate mod | Cat'd ceramic PPE downpipes |170 stat| SP542 plugs .028 | PP trans cooler | H&R springs | RX catch can

12.8@108 @ 6,000ft DA.

dubcitySHO

Thanks to both of you guys.  I was under the impression that Police Interceptor equaled Performance Package across the board minus the basic interior and bland tail lights.

Appreciate all the input!  :beer2:
2018 Magnetic Metallic F-150 XLT FX4 SCrew, 20% 3M Tint, Currently researching reputable F-150 tuners....