Topher if it makes you feel better I never broke 12's even with downpipes. The meth got me running 12.5. That was with tunes from unleashed and bcb. In currently working with brad on a meth tune and am liking where it is going. Too hot to track it right now for trying to run a number anyway. You really should look at what the shos in your area are running as opposed to the internet. I thought I was a turd until I was 3 tenths faster than a guy with similar mods. Track conditions and weather make a huge difference.
