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14-psi tune update .. followup.

Started by TopherSho, June 09, 2017, 02:24:37 PM

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SHOdded

3300 rpm?  Wow.  I thought 2500 rpm was pretty much the max for stock bb launches.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

Colorado-SHOBro

Quote from: SHOdded on July 16, 2017, 06:52:38 PM
3300 rpm?  Wow.  I thought 2500 rpm was pretty much the max for stock bb launches.
given my thin air here i've found 2300rpm is a sweet spot for me. . . or at least that gives me the best 0-60 time. i mainly watch my MAP # on the x4 when launching and raise rpm til its at ~3lbs of boost


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12.8@108 @ 6,000ft DA.

TopherSho

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Quote from: SHOdded on July 16, 2017, 06:52:38 PM
3300 rpm?  Wow.  I thought 2500 rpm was pretty much the max for stock bb launches.

It was by pure accident, I was boosted to 2300 and foot suck on my old mat for a second .. it made horrificly bad noises and wheel hop.

Don't do it.

BUT! brakes held just fine 😅
2010 non-pp, 98k miles, 3-bar,  .026 plugs, SNOW-KIT STG1, AJPTurbu tune#35, 15.5+psi
Best 0-60 public road 4.35s
Best 1/4 of 12.61 no DA correction

SHOdded

2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

TopherSho

Quote from: TopherSho on July 16, 2017, 06:21:45 PM
Yeah you may be right.  But I can't help but think 100 and 105 times even in testing are critical.  Everyone here runs 100 in the 1/4 so i my head the best 100 time off track would be equally as good on the track??

At this point I will take any advise. 

I do have to be carefully at launch I have found I can brake boost to 3300 rpm.. and then launch it is scary as ####.. the wheel hop is SO BAD it disengages the front drive and only powers the back enough to get off the track.  (No error codes) ..

I plan on racing in the furnace again (PIR) to test the effectiveness of the 15/85 spray .. I have a feeling water is not my soultion and I wasted time and money ..

I just do not know why she won't run a 12 of any kind..

last log before running the tack this Friday with my new water injection. I do not think it is helping despite the spark being in the low 20's in high rpm .. i have gained a bunch of spark but it just is not moving the car. 

I think that's it. This car cannot do any kind of 12 on pump gas despite all the right boxes being checked.  good launch, good tires, no spin upshift, high spark for pump gas.. bummed a bit. 

i will still race it friday to see how the water/meth deals with lane and line up heat which was a major reason for buying it.  with a previous 13.09 i had hoped water would get me in the high 12's by negating the boost heat build up but it appears that is not the case. 



2010 non-pp, 98k miles, 3-bar,  .026 plugs, SNOW-KIT STG1, AJPTurbu tune#35, 15.5+psi
Best 0-60 public road 4.35s
Best 1/4 of 12.61 no DA correction

Vortech347

Quote from: TopherSho on July 16, 2017, 09:33:29 PM
Quote from: SHOdded on July 16, 2017, 06:52:38 PM
3300 rpm?  Wow.  I thought 2500 rpm was pretty much the max for stock bb launches.

It was by pure accident, I was boosted to 2300 and foot suck on my old mat for a second .. it made horrificly bad noises and wheel hop.

Don't do it.

BUT! brakes held just fine 😅

If I flash anything higher than around 2400 mine will save itself, dump boost and close the TB.
Matt H.
2013 SHO Performance Pack, Daily, AJPTurbo tuned
2003 SVT Cobra 497rwhp/491rwtq, Self tuned, Cruiser
1990 Mustang GT 570rwhp/530twtq, Self tuned, Open Track
2017 F150 XLT 5.0

f8tlSHO

Quote from: Vortech347 on July 20, 2017, 07:00:41 PM
Quote from: TopherSho on July 16, 2017, 09:33:29 PM
Quote from: SHOdded on July 16, 2017, 06:52:38 PM
3300 rpm?  Wow.  I thought 2500 rpm was pretty much the max for stock bb launches.

It was by pure accident, I was boosted to 2300 and foot suck on my old mat for a second .. it made horrificly bad noises and wheel hop.

Don't do it.

BUT! brakes held just fine

If I flash anything higher than around 2400 mine will save itself, dump boost and close the TB.
Yeah I have had this happen, just goes limp when you leave the line...


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2013 Non PP Unleashed 93 E20 3 Bar Tune, K&N drop in 12.491 @ 110.96 120's IAT
Now tuned by ajp...looking to go faster
E30 tune on14psi full weight including 2 child seats,race like a real street car.
12.433 @110.8 140's IAT; Mustang Dyno 332hp / 386tq

derfdog15

I think your air is hurting your times a LOT. My SHO on straight 93 ran a best of 12.87 with CAI, weld-in mufflers, and an Airaid. Temp was mid -high 50s and it was an evening run with a reasonable DA.
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TopherSho

Quote from: derfdog15 on July 21, 2017, 10:33:17 AM
I think your air is hurting your times a LOT. My SHO on straight 93 ran a best of 12.87 with CAI, weld-in mufflers, and an Airaid. Temp was mid -high 50s and it was an evening run with a reasonable DA.

Yeah.. i know if i drop in new DP,s and catback it will fix it,  but my warranty still has 3 more years on it and it covers exhaust as well as turbos and extra bits.   When i am under 2 years warranty i will probably go big and do the pipes, full exhaust and a meth kit tune.

2010 non-pp, 98k miles, 3-bar,  .026 plugs, SNOW-KIT STG1, AJPTurbu tune#35, 15.5+psi
Best 0-60 public road 4.35s
Best 1/4 of 12.61 no DA correction

f8tlSHO

Quote from: TopherSho on July 21, 2017, 11:19:42 AM
Quote from: derfdog15 on July 21, 2017, 10:33:17 AM
I think your air is hurting your times a LOT. My SHO on straight 93 ran a best of 12.87 with CAI, weld-in mufflers, and an Airaid. Temp was mid -high 50s and it was an evening run with a reasonable DA.

Yeah.. i know if i drop in new DP,s and catback it will fix it,  but my warranty still has 3 more years on it and it covers exhaust as well as turbos and extra bits.   When i am under 2 years warranty i will probably go big and do the pipes, full exhaust and a meth kit tune.
You don't need downpipes and catback to go fast...I think derf was referring to your altitude maybe.


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2013 Non PP Unleashed 93 E20 3 Bar Tune, K&N drop in 12.491 @ 110.96 120's IAT
Now tuned by ajp...looking to go faster
E30 tune on14psi full weight including 2 child seats,race like a real street car.
12.433 @110.8 140's IAT; Mustang Dyno 332hp / 386tq

TopherSho

2010 non-pp, 98k miles, 3-bar,  .026 plugs, SNOW-KIT STG1, AJPTurbu tune#35, 15.5+psi
Best 0-60 public road 4.35s
Best 1/4 of 12.61 no DA correction

f8tlSHO

Quote from: TopherSho on July 21, 2017, 01:23:03 PM
Hmm I'm almost sea level..
Dunno then, I'm almost sea level also.. 12.9 with just 93 tune filter and 3bar


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2013 Non PP Unleashed 93 E20 3 Bar Tune, K&N drop in 12.491 @ 110.96 120's IAT
Now tuned by ajp...looking to go faster
E30 tune on14psi full weight including 2 child seats,race like a real street car.
12.433 @110.8 140's IAT; Mustang Dyno 332hp / 386tq

TopherSho

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Quote from: f8tlSHO on July 21, 2017, 01:43:06 PM
Quote from: TopherSho on July 21, 2017, 01:23:03 PM
Hmm I'm almost sea level..
Dunno then, I'm almost sea level also.. 12.9 with just 93 tune filter and 3bar


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Yeah i am out of ideas as well on this.  All i can think now is my 20's are a issue with rotation mass on launch,  and I lose a lot more HP at the tail end of my dyno than other people do. 

well see tonight what 85% water does in regards to keeping spark up.   I am not expecting much to be honest.  well see though.  I don't want to go meth tune .. but i might..
2010 non-pp, 98k miles, 3-bar,  .026 plugs, SNOW-KIT STG1, AJPTurbu tune#35, 15.5+psi
Best 0-60 public road 4.35s
Best 1/4 of 12.61 no DA correction

TopherSho

Running 13.4x at Woodburn today.

Temp of box asphalt is 140f,.  Lanes are 110

IAT sensor is only recoding a 40f.  Drop from 160f

I have to drill and tap my intake .. since snow mentioned 6" from IAT to get it wet that's my only option as next nozzle is to big

Slips and a log later
2010 non-pp, 98k miles, 3-bar,  .026 plugs, SNOW-KIT STG1, AJPTurbu tune#35, 15.5+psi
Best 0-60 public road 4.35s
Best 1/4 of 12.61 no DA correction

TopherSho

Using temp gun iat2 housing is 175+ f
2010 non-pp, 98k miles, 3-bar,  .026 plugs, SNOW-KIT STG1, AJPTurbu tune#35, 15.5+psi
Best 0-60 public road 4.35s
Best 1/4 of 12.61 no DA correction