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New End Links and Traction Bars - from First-SHO

Started by EcoPowerParts, July 07, 2013, 10:54:59 AM

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This was originally written up by First SHO


This was his first post when he was engineering it:
First of, these are in the experimental stage and before I offer up all details, I need to make sure these will work without failure as I had to change a few things from the units I purchased.

There were some bolt changes, spacers that I made and welding will need to be done for the installation. I am just showing the parts and temporary install as the welding will be done later this week.

I have not worked on the rear end links yet until the front is complete, so there may be modifications that need to be made from the photos shown.

I hope this works out good for us and will give more details later.

Front End Link


Traction Bar


Rear End Link


Front End Link Comparo


The front hole on the lower control arm is the location of the traction bar mount.


Front End Link Installed


Traction Bar Temp Install





This is his post with all the parts and items required to build the setup:
OK, so here is my writeup.

Traction Bars

http://racinglineperformance.com/shop/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=77&idcategory=21

Must replace control arm bolt with ½-13 x 4" bolt. I used stainless.

Mount front helm joint with bushings to control arm first. Align traction bar attached to bracket for proper weld point and then weld bracket to frame. Adjust traction bar with suspension in the ride position. Do not over tighten.

Front End Links

http://racinglineperformance.com/shop/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=81&idcategory=21

Must replace bolts with http://www.boltdepot.com/Product-Details.aspx?product=6774

I also had to make some bushings for the strut mount and the sway-bar mount. I have extras, for those who take on the project.

Rear End Links – No Modification, just mount, adjust and tighten

http://racinglineperformance.com/shop/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=85&idcategory=21

Limit Straps – For use ONLY at the track and must be attached at the track.

http://www.pacificcustoms.com/RA18114.html Straps

http://www.pacificcustoms.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=AC510050&Store_Code=PC&search=clevis&filter_cat=&PowerSearch_Begin_Only=&sort=&range_low=&range_high= Clevis

The clevis is the only thing you will use, as room will not allow the use of a pin with retainer. I made two new pins to be tack welded within the clevis. Purchase kit below and cut two pieces 3" long and heat wrap clevis to strap. Be sure to cover entire clevis. This will protect springs from rub damage.

http://www.homedepot.com/p/t/202204318?catalogId=10053&langId=-1&keyword=cpgi-hs-splice-kit-1%2F0&storeId=10051&N=5yc1v&R=202204318#.USjW0qX_Sao

Drill out the upper hole to allow some play, about 5/8" as you want the strap to give when turning. Apply dip coat to the hole to minimize clevis thread damage.

Replace the factory lower strut bolt with a modified 10.9 M14 x 2.0 120 long https://www.fastenal.com/web/products/detail.ex?sku=11113742 The threads need to be ¾ longer, so you will need to take a thread die and do that yourself.

Use the same stock lock nut to secure bolt. Add a M14 x 2.0 nut for space, washer then limit strap, washer and new lock nut.

Bolt the lower limit strap into position, then feed the clevis through the new hole. Add harden washer and nut. At this time mount wheels and let rest on tires. Tighten nut until desired squat is achieved, then add second lock nut. Note, the clevis will have to be cut in order to shut the hood. You have 5/8" clearance from the top of the strut mount to the hood shock support. If you remove the hood shock support you have 1 5/8" clearance, so cut for your needs.

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bpd1151

OUTSTANDING WRITE UP FROM FIRSTSHO!

Thnx Mike & Mike for both writing this tutorial, as well as for having transferred it on over here, for all fellow EBPF members to enjoy, learn from, & perhaps to make use of, on their own Eco applications!

Way to go! :ok:

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TimmyATL

So is this modification worth the money to help limit wheel hop/spinning to the front wheels. I only ask because I am kind of old school of spinning is not winning. I feel that with this and some better tires can be very helpful at the track.
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Skydogs

Back from the dead lol I will be adding these to my sho i will update with pics and results. :)
Boost and meth life!!
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610" Merlin 8.3 whipple on Meth 1,300 HP Pump gas
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ZSHO



2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

Skydogs

Boost and meth life!!
13 SHO PP  Meth tuned by AJP Turbo!!!!
610" Merlin 8.3 whipple on Meth 1,300 HP Pump gas
17 Thunder Cat 300 HP Tuned
17 X3 Can-am 200 HP Tuned

Skydogs

 Hey guys trying to order the track bars and I have no luck? On there web page I don't have a tab to add to cart? I sent them a e-mail as well no reply yet?
Boost and meth life!!
13 SHO PP  Meth tuned by AJP Turbo!!!!
610" Merlin 8.3 whipple on Meth 1,300 HP Pump gas
17 Thunder Cat 300 HP Tuned
17 X3 Can-am 200 HP Tuned

bpd1151

@skydog.....

Just a heads up before you head down this path, especially if you are having ordering difficulties.

This set up, although expectations were high,  the end results were less than desired and did NOT assist the OP (FirstSHO Mike) in reducing, or limiting front wheel spin/hop.

Just wanted to let you know. Maybe the ordering difficulty is an omen.

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bamsho

H&R springs or coilover with def help with front lift.  Wheel spin depends on what tires you are running and track temp and prep.
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Skydogs

 Thank you guys very much!! I do have lower springs in, I will play with a few other things in the mean time.
Skydog
Boost and meth life!!
13 SHO PP  Meth tuned by AJP Turbo!!!!
610" Merlin 8.3 whipple on Meth 1,300 HP Pump gas
17 Thunder Cat 300 HP Tuned
17 X3 Can-am 200 HP Tuned

Macgyver

No one has done it on the SHO as far as I can tell and it does work for other platforms. Unsure whether a heavy car like this will benefit as other mods have tamed the wheel hop. But Urethaning the Engine mounts helps tremendously with other platforms.

bpd1151

Quote from: Macgyver on December 18, 2017, 03:59:29 PM
No one has done it on the SHO as far as I can tell and it does work for other platforms. Unsure whether a heavy car like this will benefit as other mods have tamed the wheel hop. But Urethaning the Engine mounts helps tremendously with other platforms.
Very true.

I am aware of two persons who reached out privately to two separate vendors regarding this potential mod (better motor mounts) & much to their dismay, (like so many other things it seems with this platform) it was a no-go / no-dice / no-luck.

Thus the challenges we each face, and always have, for a platform that has relatively low production/sales numbers.

Sigh.

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avidmotion

Dont forget the DIYs you can make your own urethane bushings if you have an idea of what durometer you need.....just saying G8 list did it....
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Macgyver

#13
I brought this up before. All you need is some time, Youtube, and liquid urethane.

http://www.energysuspensionparts.com/diymmi

Before.

During.

After.

Not sure how much the motor twists on acceleration and such. They will make the interior noisier.

These mounts are for a 2014 Nissan Juke RS 6 speed FWD. They help three ways at least. Faster response and more predictable shifts. Way less wheel hop. Better more predictable handling. Here is a video of my Juke on a Dyno. Engine doesnt move now.

https://youtu.be/Fw8N-8eDssY

Macgyver

There is definitely movement.

Check out this Dyno video.

https://youtu.be/XykNKojmhkY

They dont look that hard to do either. It just takes time and the car will be down as the Urethane needs to cure a couple of days unless you buy a new set of mounts and use them so you have race day mounts and DD mounts. Not sure how hard they are to do. Both mounts on the Juke can be done in 15mins.

If Advance is correct.......

https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/anchor-torque-strut-mount-3218/10658093-P?searchTerm=Motor+mount

https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/anchor-engine-mount-3305/11441364-P?searchTerm=Motor+mount

https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/anchor-torson-arm-torq-strt-3219/10658095-P?searchTerm=Motor+mount