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Maintenance Items - 2016 Expl Sport - Where do I start?

Started by Lexingtonian, April 24, 2017, 11:00:34 AM

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SHOdded

No, Blackstone was saying 7,000 on the Mobil1 5W30 for your X, and I am saying looks like 6,000 is more appropriate.  I was using Mark's car/results to illustrate that the right OCI will differ for different type of vehicles and different oils as well.

Mark's SHO is a 2010, and 5W20 was spec'd for that model year, and I think, part of MY 2011 as well.  You should be using 5W30, which you are :)

And your plan is a solid one.  I would say, you should def change the Mobil1 by 6000 miles max.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

hawkeye93

FWIW, I also use Mobil 1 5W-30, and I change every 5K, regardless of what the car's oil monitor says (it often says I have over 40 or 50% remaining).  It's an easy reminder of when I need to change, whenever the odometer reaches a multiple of 5K.  Might be a tad bit too often, but I figure oil changes are one thing I have easy control over, and too often can't really be bad.
2015 Ford Taurus SHO PP 12.219@112.84
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1965 Ford Mustang Convertible 289 4V/T5Z/3.55
1955 Ford Fairlane Club Sedan 272 4V/Fordomatic

Lexingtonian

Quote from: SHOdded on May 07, 2017, 11:14:47 PM
No, Blackstone was saying 7,000 on the Mobil1 5W30 for your X, and I am saying looks like 6,000 is more appropriate.  I was using Mark's car/results to illustrate that the right OCI will differ for different type of vehicles and different oils as well.

Mark's SHO is a 2010, and 5W20 was spec'd for that model year, and I think, part of MY 2011 as well.  You should be using 5W30, which you are :)

And your plan is a solid one.  I would say, you should def change the Mobil1 by 6000 miles max.

Thanks for clearing that up! I'm getting the itch to change my PTU fluid, may give it a go tonight or at least get all of my tooling and bits needed together such as the 1/4" ID Fuel Line and whatever I'm going to use to open the drain plug.
2016 Explorer Sport Metallic
93 Octane AJP Tune (SCT X4)
3Bar MAP
Plugs at .030

Lexingtonian

Quote from: hawkeye93 on May 08, 2017, 08:36:42 AM
FWIW, I also use Mobil 1 5W-30, and I change every 5K, regardless of what the car's oil monitor says (it often says I have over 40 or 50% remaining).  It's an easy reminder of when I need to change, whenever the odometer reaches a multiple of 5K.  Might be a tad bit too often, but I figure oil changes are one thing I have easy control over, and too often can't really be bad.

I'm pretty much in the same boat, long time Mo 1 user. I'll typically run Mobile1 Full Synth around 6K in a gasser. I had a Diesel VW at one point and did Mobile 1 Turbo Diesel Truck oil for 10k intervals religiously. Put 348K miles on the VW before I sold it and it was still running like a sewing machine. I saw somewhere a person in the position to speak on the subject about the efficacy of oil said something to the effect of, "Oil is oil." Essentially some will last a little longer than others, but if you know how long yours lasts and keep the change interval in within the tolerance of that oil, the net result  on the engine is essentially the same. I like a more frequent change interval especially if I'm doing analysis as it would help me catch something that was an issue sooner than later. This last change I sent to Blackstone was at that 4500ish mile mark mostly because I wanted to get the previous oil mixed in with the Mo1 out sooner than later and was naturally curious how things are performing. I drive the truck medium-hard I suppose, It's hard for me to keep my foot out of for sure.
2016 Explorer Sport Metallic
93 Octane AJP Tune (SCT X4)
3Bar MAP
Plugs at .030

SHOdded

3/8 hose for the ptu fluid may work better.  although it should be freely flowing still at this mileage.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

Lexingtonian

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Quote from: SHOdded on May 08, 2017, 10:36:59 AM
3/8 hose for the ptu fluid may work better.  although it should be freely flowing still at this mileage.

I was meaning the 1/4" hose for replacing the PTU Vent hose so I can get the new fluid down from the top. Per this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2t2YR1LVN3s

Were you meaning for pumping back in or suctioning out?
2016 Explorer Sport Metallic
93 Octane AJP Tune (SCT X4)
3Bar MAP
Plugs at .030

MiWiAu

I'm 99% sure I used 5/16" ID hose when I replaced/extended my PTU vent hose. I think 1/4" may be too tight.


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2013 XSport

SHOdded

Quote from: Lexingtonian on May 08, 2017, 10:57:42 AM
I was meaning the 1/4" hose for replacing the PTU Vent hose so I can get the new fluid down from the top.
Ah yes, forgot you have that option. (THWACK self) LOL!
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

Lexingtonian

Quote from: MiWiAu on May 07, 2017, 07:38:03 PM
Quote from: Lexingtonian on May 07, 2017, 08:20:26 AM
How much oil did you get from the PTU when you drained it?

I don't recall exactly. When I first pulled the drain plug, a bunch went straight onto the driveway, so I never got a good measure. LOL Based on what I captured, and what I mopped up, I'd guess 16-17 oz.

I did a refill, drove for a few dozen miles and drained it again. When I drained it the second time, I pulled up on a ramp on just the driver's side, so it was listing toward the drain plug by quite a bit. I got all 18 oz out that I had added when I drained it this way (and didn't lose it in the driveway).

After drain #2, I added fluid from the top with the plug out until fluid coming out looked clean. Not sure how effective this was at flushing out the junk or if I was just wasting oil.



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Did you have to use an oil extractor to get all the fluid out or did the drivers tire on the ramp allow for it to drain sufficiently without it?
2016 Explorer Sport Metallic
93 Octane AJP Tune (SCT X4)
3Bar MAP
Plugs at .030

MiWiAu

Quote from: Lexingtonian on May 13, 2017, 04:48:01 PM
Did you have to use an oil extractor to get all the fluid out or did the drivers tire on the ramp allow for it to drain sufficiently without it?

I did not need an extractor. My understanding is that the extractor is used on the PTU units without the drain plug when fluid must be pumped out of the fill hole. All 2013+ XSports have a drain plug, to my knowledge.


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Macgyver

#25
I do love what you can learn from Blackstone and other online sources concerning fluids. Especially if you are buying a used car etc and want to learn what going on inside. However, I also dont care what Blackstone says. The oil is coming out of my vehicles long before the OEM recommended distance. This applies to any fluid in my vehicles. Also, remember if you are still under warranty. Most clearly state the mileage interval 3500-5000 and /OR 6 months. Which ever comes first

Its only an oil change. It dont cost that much or take that much time. Its not rocket science.

Lexingtonian

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Quote from: Macgyver on May 13, 2017, 06:02:10 PM
I do love what you can learn from Blackstone and other online sources concerning fluids. Especially if you are buying a used car etc and want to learn what going on inside. However, I also dont care what Blackstone says. The oil is coming out of my vehicles long before the OEM recommended distance. This applies to any fluid in my vehicles. Also, remember if you are still under warranty. Most clearly state the mileage interval 3500-5000 and /OR 6 months. Which ever comes first

Its only an oil change. It dont cost that much or take that much time. Its not rocket science.

I'm quite the master of engine oil changes. We were previously discussing PTU oil changes which is a little different bit of Kung-fu first time through. 
2016 Explorer Sport Metallic
93 Octane AJP Tune (SCT X4)
3Bar MAP
Plugs at .030