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Started by Usmcsho, April 19, 2017, 08:12:28 AM

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f8tlSHO

i attached both the full log a one i cut out everything other than the relevant info.
2013 Non PP Unleashed 93 E20 3 Bar Tune, K&N drop in 12.491 @ 110.96 120's IAT
Now tuned by ajp...looking to go faster
E30 tune on14psi full weight including 2 child seats,race like a real street car.
12.433 @110.8 140's IAT; Mustang Dyno 332hp / 386tq

16MagSport

I am pretty sure your computer's clock is accurate, so the way you calculated your 0-60 should be perfect.  That is what I was doing.  Are you logging to a PC or directly to X4?


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2016 Magnetic Explorer Sport 401A  (Wife's DD)  13.55 @ 99.87 mph AJP Tune Only.
1993 Mustang, Big Bore Dart block 347 with Vortech SC, TKO500, 10.84 @ 128.5mph
         (Burned in Cali wildfire)
2006 Dodge Ram, 2WD Quad Cab Hemi, 14.60 @ 92mph
         (Burned in Cali wildfire)

16MagSport

Okay, Wallace shows 5.18 0-60 for me and I got 5.51 from my log.  This was my 13.81 @ 98.24mph.  I think the head start you get at the track before you trip the beams makes a big difference.  The log will show longer to your trap speed than your slip as well.  Just going from a shallow stage to a deep stage is worth over a tenth in the 60ft.


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2016 Magnetic Explorer Sport 401A  (Wife's DD)  13.55 @ 99.87 mph AJP Tune Only.
1993 Mustang, Big Bore Dart block 347 with Vortech SC, TKO500, 10.84 @ 128.5mph
         (Burned in Cali wildfire)
2006 Dodge Ram, 2WD Quad Cab Hemi, 14.60 @ 92mph
         (Burned in Cali wildfire)

f8tlSHO

Quote from: 16MagSport on May 01, 2017, 11:25:43 PM
I am pretty sure your computer's clock is accurate, so the way you calculated your 0-60 should be perfect.  That is what I was doing.  Are you logging to a PC or directly to X4?


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I do both, but that was to a laptop.. yeah exactly what I thought


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2013 Non PP Unleashed 93 E20 3 Bar Tune, K&N drop in 12.491 @ 110.96 120's IAT
Now tuned by ajp...looking to go faster
E30 tune on14psi full weight including 2 child seats,race like a real street car.
12.433 @110.8 140's IAT; Mustang Dyno 332hp / 386tq

f8tlSHO

Quote from: 16MagSport on May 01, 2017, 11:40:38 PM
Okay, Wallace shows 5.18 0-60 for me and I got 5.51 from my log.  This was my 13.81 @ 98.24mph.  I think the head start you get at the track before you trip the beams makes a big difference.  The log will show longer to your trap speed than your slip as well.  Just going from a shallow stage to a deep stage is worth over a tenth in the 60ft.


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Yeah, the cars computer picks up movement right away..


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2013 Non PP Unleashed 93 E20 3 Bar Tune, K&N drop in 12.491 @ 110.96 120's IAT
Now tuned by ajp...looking to go faster
E30 tune on14psi full weight including 2 child seats,race like a real street car.
12.433 @110.8 140's IAT; Mustang Dyno 332hp / 386tq

TSS

#35
Quote from: SHOdded on April 21, 2017, 06:25:30 PM
Brucelinc's mks did 3.9s all day, based on the Aeroforce gauge.

As does my MKS (same year and tune as Bruce).  3.94 actually per my Aeroforce.  3.92 per my G-Tech.   No mods other than "4X Plus" 3 Bar tune with the soft 1-2 shift modification.
2010 Steel Blue Metallic MKS Ecoboost: LME 3-Bar Tuned; tint; 20" Factory rims Permachromed

2017 Summit White Buick Envision Premium AWD 2.0 Turbo
2017 Silver Cadillac XTS V-Sport Platinum  3.6 Twin Turbo; LME tuned.

bamsho

The only issue using Aeroforce for times, is that if there any tire spin, that comes into play.  I did couple passes at the track usinh mine.  It was showing times, before I crossed the end of the traps.  Was about tenth or better off.
2013 white Gen 5.  Gearhead Intercooler, Turbosmart wastegate actuators, Alky Controls meth kit, Livernois catted downpipes,  Livernois Corsa cat back black etched tips.  2016 True Street Champion.

TopherSho

#37
Something to keep in mind is LMS does boost mapping.  They are *likely* playing with the wastegate to keep pressures higher than normal... and they also can control a great deal of the shifting behaviors versus SCT's limited interaction with the PTU's.  this can account for quite a bit of gained time 1/4 mile in the 1st half of the track...

After that 1/8th things normalize out from a number of youtube vids and then 'same/similar power' but lighter sports cars start pulling us in,  on a 1/2 mile track we'd lose a bit more than we currently win with regard to SHO vs stock v8 2015+ stangs and very similar sport car weight/power profiles.





2010 non-pp, 98k miles, 3-bar,  .026 plugs, SNOW-KIT STG1, AJPTurbu tune#35, 15.5+psi
Best 0-60 public road 4.35s
Best 1/4 of 12.61 no DA correction

f8tlSHO

Quote from: TopherSho on May 02, 2017, 12:19:40 PM
Something to keep in mind is LMS does boost mapping.  They are *likely* playing with the wastegate to keep pressures higher than normal... and they also can control a great deal of the shifting behaviors versus SCT's limited interaction with the PTU's.  this can account for quite a bit of gained time 1/4 mile in the 1st half of the track...

After that 1/8th things normalize out from a number of youtube vids and then 'same/similar power' but lighter sports cars start pulling us in,  on a 1/2 mile track we'd lose a bit more than we currently win with regard to SHO vs stock v8 2015+ stangs and very similar sport car weight/power profiles.
What do you mean interaction with the ptu? The ptu is strictly mechanical isn't it?


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2013 Non PP Unleashed 93 E20 3 Bar Tune, K&N drop in 12.491 @ 110.96 120's IAT
Now tuned by ajp...looking to go faster
E30 tune on14psi full weight including 2 child seats,race like a real street car.
12.433 @110.8 140's IAT; Mustang Dyno 332hp / 386tq

AJP turbo

Quote from: f8tlSHO on May 02, 2017, 09:43:29 PM
Quote from: TopherSho on May 02, 2017, 12:19:40 PM
Something to keep in mind is LMS does boost mapping.  They are *likely* playing with the wastegate to keep pressures higher than normal... and they also can control a great deal of the shifting behaviors versus SCT's limited interaction with the PTU's.  this can account for quite a bit of gained time 1/4 mile in the 1st half of the track...

After that 1/8th things normalize out from a number of youtube vids and then 'same/similar power' but lighter sports cars start pulling us in,  on a 1/2 mile track we'd lose a bit more than we currently win with regard to SHO vs stock v8 2015+ stangs and very similar sport car weight/power profiles.
What do you mean interaction with the ptu? The ptu is strictly mechanical isn't it?


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What is boost mapping?..i think you may be over thinking it topher
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92BlackGT

Quote from: f8tlSHO on May 02, 2017, 09:43:29 PM
Quote from: TopherSho on May 02, 2017, 12:19:40 PM
Something to keep in mind is LMS does boost mapping.  They are *likely* playing with the wastegate to keep pressures higher than normal... and they also can control a great deal of the shifting behaviors versus SCT's limited interaction with the PTU's.  this can account for quite a bit of gained time 1/4 mile in the 1st half of the track...

After that 1/8th things normalize out from a number of youtube vids and then 'same/similar power' but lighter sports cars start pulling us in,  on a 1/2 mile track we'd lose a bit more than we currently win with regard to SHO vs stock v8 2015+ stangs and very similar sport car weight/power profiles.
What do you mean interaction with the ptu? The ptu is strictly mechanical isn't it?


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correct. there arent any clutches in the PTU, the clutches are rearward of the driveshaft before the RDU. the PTU and driveshaft are spinning while driving at all times.
'14 Taurus SHO - non PP, Unleashed E20 tune, 3 bar - 12.91 @ 106.5 mph
'93 Mustang Coupe - AFR 165's, FTI cam, ported Cobra intake - 13.05 @ 105.6 mph

bamsho

Livernois is able to do more with the Torque Management, if that is what you are referring too.
2013 white Gen 5.  Gearhead Intercooler, Turbosmart wastegate actuators, Alky Controls meth kit, Livernois catted downpipes,  Livernois Corsa cat back black etched tips.  2016 True Street Champion.

TopherSho

Quote from: AJP turbo on May 02, 2017, 10:10:24 PM
Quote from: f8tlSHO on May 02, 2017, 09:43:29 PM
Quote from: TopherSho on May 02, 2017, 12:19:40 PM
Something to keep in mind is LMS does boost mapping.  They are *likely* playing with the wastegate to keep pressures higher than normal... and they also can control a great deal of the shifting behaviors versus SCT's limited interaction with the PTU's.  this can account for quite a bit of gained time 1/4 mile in the 1st half of the track...

After that 1/8th things normalize out from a number of youtube vids and then 'same/similar power' but lighter sports cars start pulling us in,  on a 1/2 mile track we'd lose a bit more than we currently win with regard to SHO vs stock v8 2015+ stangs and very similar sport car weight/power profiles.
What do you mean interaction with the ptu? The ptu is strictly mechanical isn't it?


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What is boost mapping?..i think you may be over thinking it topher

maybe!  i have had a lot of caffeine ..  but they do list boost-mapping as a service. 
2010 non-pp, 98k miles, 3-bar,  .026 plugs, SNOW-KIT STG1, AJPTurbu tune#35, 15.5+psi
Best 0-60 public road 4.35s
Best 1/4 of 12.61 no DA correction