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Brake pads and drag racing.

Started by TopherSho, April 19, 2017, 04:54:27 PM

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TopherSho

So like many my SHO is a DD,  but i intend on drag racing with friends 3-4 times a year,  15-20 passess per night. (80 at max). 

I know from my high speed datalogging the brakes are useless after stopping ''moderately" firmly from 110.   I know enough to get in trouble,  and that EBC seems to be the rotor and pad of choice.  But i do not know if i need stage-1,  stage-2 or better.

given my usage .. what is the great internetz recommendations ?

FYI my plan is to do all four sets at once and have a performance shop do the work.
2010 non-pp, 98k miles, 3-bar,  .026 plugs, SNOW-KIT STG1, AJPTurbu tune#35, 15.5+psi
Best 0-60 public road 4.35s
Best 1/4 of 12.61 no DA correction

peppelepugh

You'll want at minimum their Red-Stuff Pads. But Yellow Stuff is one stop higher when it comes to "aggressiveness".
2011 Kona Blue SHO non-PP: MDesign Carbon Fiber CAI, All interior lights LEDs, LED Puddles, and LED Reverse.

EBC Stage 4 Brake kit, 170* T-stat, 3-Bar MAP, NGK Plugs, PPE Catless-DPs and Tune by Torrie!

SHOdded

ya, bpd was running the YellowStuff before he took the leap to TCE/Wilwood brakes.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

TopherSho

2010 non-pp, 98k miles, 3-bar,  .026 plugs, SNOW-KIT STG1, AJPTurbu tune#35, 15.5+psi
Best 0-60 public road 4.35s
Best 1/4 of 12.61 no DA correction

TopherSho

there is only a 120$ difference between the YellowStuff and RedStuff.  I think im going yellow on that principal alone.

*but* how dirty are these things going to get?  Their dust rating is super low..
2010 non-pp, 98k miles, 3-bar,  .026 plugs, SNOW-KIT STG1, AJPTurbu tune#35, 15.5+psi
Best 0-60 public road 4.35s
Best 1/4 of 12.61 no DA correction

bpd1151

Quote from: SHOdded on April 20, 2017, 09:12:07 AM
ya, bpd was running the YellowStuff before he took the leap to TCE/Wilwood brakes.
Veru true.

I ran the EBC Yellow Stuff prior to taking the giant leap into the Wilwood's.

I didn't experience much dust from what I recall and the yellow's served me well. You'll enjoy them.

You may want to check out their "Orange Stuff" pads too. I think that's their newest/lastest and greatest offerings from what I understand.

Good luck.

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TopherSho

Quote from: bpd1151 on April 20, 2017, 11:33:29 AM
Quote from: SHOdded on April 20, 2017, 09:12:07 AM
ya, bpd was running the YellowStuff before he took the leap to TCE/Wilwood brakes.
Veru true.

I ran the EBC Yellow Stuff prior to taking the giant leap into the Wilwood's.

I didn't experience much dust from what I recall and the yellow's served me well. You'll enjoy them.

You may want to check out their "Orange Stuff" pads too. I think that's their newest/lastest and greatest offerings from what I understand.

Good luck.

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Orange stuff !  even better ...
2010 non-pp, 98k miles, 3-bar,  .026 plugs, SNOW-KIT STG1, AJPTurbu tune#35, 15.5+psi
Best 0-60 public road 4.35s
Best 1/4 of 12.61 no DA correction

bamsho

What year is your car.  I just had new tires put on this morning.  I had them look at my brakes cause after racing a full season last year, I figured they were toast.  I was surprised when they told me I have over half of pads left.  I have well over 200 passes on the car.  Guess the OEM PP pads hold up pretty good.
2013 white Gen 5.  Gearhead Intercooler, Turbosmart wastegate actuators, Alky Controls meth kit, Livernois catted downpipes,  Livernois Corsa cat back black etched tips.  2016 True Street Champion.

SHOdded

2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

lamrith

Quote from: bpd1151 on April 20, 2017, 11:33:29 AM
Quote from: SHOdded on April 20, 2017, 09:12:07 AM
ya, bpd was running the YellowStuff before he took the leap to TCE/Wilwood brakes.
Veru true.

I ran the EBC Yellow Stuff prior to taking the giant leap into the Wilwood's.

I didn't experience much dust from what I recall and the yellow's served me well. You'll enjoy them.

You may want to check out their "Orange Stuff" pads too. I think that's their newest/lastest and greatest offerings from what I understand.

Good luck.

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Any issues with noise on the EBC's?  I know on m last car I upgraded to a harder pad for performance and they howled bigtime, ended up pulling them off as it was not livable for a daily driver..
'13 Sho PP, SCT x4, AJP 92-Octane rev6 (14psi&20spark) NGK 6510, 3Bar, K&N CAI, PPE Catted DP, Dynomax Axleback, 20*9.5 Voxx Lago w/ 275/40-20 GMAX AS-05.

bpd1151

Quote from: lamrith on April 20, 2017, 05:43:21 PM
Quote from: bpd1151 on April 20, 2017, 11:33:29 AM
Quote from: SHOdded on April 20, 2017, 09:12:07 AM
ya, bpd was running the YellowStuff before he took the leap to TCE/Wilwood brakes.
Veru true.

I ran the EBC Yellow Stuff prior to taking the giant leap into the Wilwood's.

I didn't experience much dust from what I recall and the yellow's served me well. You'll enjoy them.

You may want to check out their "Orange Stuff" pads too. I think that's their newest/lastest and greatest offerings from what I understand.

Good luck.

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Any issues with noise on the EBC's?  I know on m last car I upgraded to a harder pad for performance and they howled bigtime, ended up pulling them off as it was not livable for a daily driver..
No, not really.

Keep in mind, with both EBC, & most other upgraded, aftermarket pads, the warmer they get, the better they bite.

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lamrith

Quote from: bpd1151 on April 20, 2017, 06:19:46 PM
Quote from: lamrith on April 20, 2017, 05:43:21 PM
Quote from: bpd1151 on April 20, 2017, 11:33:29 AM
Quote from: SHOdded on April 20, 2017, 09:12:07 AM
ya, bpd was running the YellowStuff before he took the leap to TCE/Wilwood brakes.
Veru true.

I ran the EBC Yellow Stuff prior to taking the giant leap into the Wilwood's.

I didn't experience much dust from what I recall and the yellow's served me well. You'll enjoy them.

You may want to check out their "Orange Stuff" pads too. I think that's their newest/lastest and greatest offerings from what I understand.

Good luck.

Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk
Any issues with noise on the EBC's?  I know on m last car I upgraded to a harder pad for performance and they howled bigtime, ended up pulling them off as it was not livable for a daily driver..
No, not really.

Keep in mind, with both EBC, & most other upgraded, aftermarket pads, the warmer they get, the better they bite.

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yeah I did not have EBC's it was another brand but a harder performance compound and the noise was unbearable until they got warm.  I will put the EBC's on my list for sure, thanks!
'13 Sho PP, SCT x4, AJP 92-Octane rev6 (14psi&20spark) NGK 6510, 3Bar, K&N CAI, PPE Catted DP, Dynomax Axleback, 20*9.5 Voxx Lago w/ 275/40-20 GMAX AS-05.

SHOdded

Porterfield pads are oft quoted for autox/racing, as are Carbotech.  I found Hawk HPS to be unsuitable for use with Baer rotors, but others like them a lot.  I like PFC products, but others dislike them, LOL.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

MiWiAu

FWIW, I have the EBC dimpled/slotted GD Sport rotors and YellowStuff pads on my Explorer. Other than the helicopter noises from the rotor slots (which is only audible with the windows down), the brakes are pretty quiet, especially with daily driving. If I'm braking really aggressively, I can get the brakes to resonate which can cause some cabin drone, but it doesn't bother me, since it only happens under very heavy braking.

As bpd indicated, I have noticed that the bite is very consistent and actually improves as they heat up.

They do dust a bit (more so on the front, which is typical), but so far, the touchless car was is enough to remove most of the dust.

I'm happy with them, and I'd make the same choice again. :)


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