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2013 non pp sho E20 15psi,14psi, stock w/E20

Started by f8tlSHO, February 20, 2017, 06:42:29 PM

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f8tlSHO

Not sure, I don't remember how to even look that up. Maybe plug it in to the car and get info that way... it's been awhile..KLDHF sounds familiar but not positive


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2013 Non PP Unleashed 93 E20 3 Bar Tune, K&N drop in 12.491 @ 110.96 120's IAT
Now tuned by ajp...looking to go faster
E30 tune on14psi full weight including 2 child seats,race like a real street car.
12.433 @110.8 140's IAT; Mustang Dyno 332hp / 386tq

FoMoCoSHO

Quote from: f8tlSHO on February 22, 2017, 10:03:09 PM
Not sure, I don't remember how to even look that up. Maybe plug it in to the car and get info that way... it's been awhile..KLDHF sounds familiar but not positive


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Yeah, plug in the X4 and select vehicle info...

f8tlSHO

Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on February 22, 2017, 10:01:59 PM
Quote from: f8tlSHO on February 22, 2017, 09:34:57 PM
Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on February 22, 2017, 09:13:23 PM
F8TL, you've got mail!

i just went out and tried it, nothing showed on the gauge or the log from what i can tell
Looks like all sorts of fail in that log.
Maybe I didn't transfer it correctly. As far as I know there is only 1 way


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2013 Non PP Unleashed 93 E20 3 Bar Tune, K&N drop in 12.491 @ 110.96 120's IAT
Now tuned by ajp...looking to go faster
E30 tune on14psi full weight including 2 child seats,race like a real street car.
12.433 @110.8 140's IAT; Mustang Dyno 332hp / 386tq

FoMoCoSHO

Quote from: f8tlSHO on February 22, 2017, 10:04:24 PM
Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on February 22, 2017, 10:01:59 PM
Quote from: f8tlSHO on February 22, 2017, 09:34:57 PM
Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on February 22, 2017, 09:13:23 PM
F8TL, you've got mail!

i just went out and tried it, nothing showed on the gauge or the log from what i can tell
Looks like all sorts of fail in that log.
Maybe I didn't transfer it correctly. As far as I know there is only 1 way


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I don't think its you, different strategies may have different memory addresses.

f8tlSHO

Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on February 22, 2017, 09:57:53 PM
Quote from: f8tlSHO on February 22, 2017, 09:34:57 PM
Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on February 22, 2017, 09:13:23 PM
F8TL, you've got mail!

i just went out and tried it, nothing showed on the gauge or the log from what i can tell
What is your strategy?




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2013 Non PP Unleashed 93 E20 3 Bar Tune, K&N drop in 12.491 @ 110.96 120's IAT
Now tuned by ajp...looking to go faster
E30 tune on14psi full weight including 2 child seats,race like a real street car.
12.433 @110.8 140's IAT; Mustang Dyno 332hp / 386tq

FoMoCoSHO

Quote from: f8tlSHO on February 23, 2017, 06:23:29 AM
Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on February 22, 2017, 09:57:53 PM
Quote from: f8tlSHO on February 22, 2017, 09:34:57 PM
Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on February 22, 2017, 09:13:23 PM
F8TL, you've got mail!

i just went out and tried it, nothing showed on the gauge or the log from what i can tell
What is your strategy?




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Try this....offline

When you go into the screen before you actually select the pids, make sure you select your strategy.

Once you get to the screen to select pids click load config then merge my config file and save it.

Load that to the X4 and let me know.

FYI, mine did not work the first time out, sometimes SCT is just quirky. IIRC, I had to validate a couple of times before it worked.

f8tlSHO

Tried this several times, no luck... this is frustrating..


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2013 Non PP Unleashed 93 E20 3 Bar Tune, K&N drop in 12.491 @ 110.96 120's IAT
Now tuned by ajp...looking to go faster
E30 tune on14psi full weight including 2 child seats,race like a real street car.
12.433 @110.8 140's IAT; Mustang Dyno 332hp / 386tq

FoMoCoSHO

Quote from: f8tlSHO on February 23, 2017, 10:06:06 PM
Tried this several times, no luck... this is frustrating..


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Maybe we can sweet talk AJP into addressing this with SCT...

f8tlSHO

Here is the picture I have been waiting for..
Run 1 15psi e20
Run 2 14psi e20(loaded tune on dyno)
Run 3 stock with e20 fuel map(loaded tune on dyno)

This shows that higher boost does not always pay off



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2013 Non PP Unleashed 93 E20 3 Bar Tune, K&N drop in 12.491 @ 110.96 120's IAT
Now tuned by ajp...looking to go faster
E30 tune on14psi full weight including 2 child seats,race like a real street car.
12.433 @110.8 140's IAT; Mustang Dyno 332hp / 386tq

derfdog15

Quote from: f8tlSHO on March 01, 2017, 03:46:21 PM
Here is the picture I have been waiting for..
Run 1 15psi e20
Run 2 14psi e20(loaded tune on dyno)
Run 3 stock with e20 fuel map(loaded tune on dyno)

This shows that higher boost does not always pay off



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I dont see the green line at all?

I think the run # on the min/max/avg is not the same as the colors below? Looks like 14 and 15 psi are pretty identical, +1 peak HP on 15psi (with adaptive) vs. + 5 peak tq on 14psi without adaptive. Where temperature, etc. the same at the start of these runs? if the car was heatsoaked/hotter on that 15psi pull then it would have been pulling spark.

I could see there being difference from 14-15 psi depending on conditions and efficiency, but based on the max numbers it looks pretty negligible (if conditions were the same). Lack of adaptive means the 14psi may be slightly better if it was fully adapted as well. IMO for your case, I would run that 14psi tune.

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f8tlSHO

Quote from: derfdog15 on March 01, 2017, 04:10:22 PM
Quote from: f8tlSHO on March 01, 2017, 03:46:21 PM
Here is the picture I have been waiting for..
Run 1 15psi e20
Run 2 14psi e20(loaded tune on dyno)
Run 3 stock with e20 fuel map(loaded tune on dyno)

This shows that higher boost does not always pay off



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I dont see the green line at all?

I think the run # on the min/max/avg is not the same as the colors below? Looks like 14 and 15 psi are pretty identical, +1 peak HP on 15psi (with adaptive) vs. + 5 peak tq on 14psi without adaptive. Where temperature, etc. the same at the start of these runs? if the car was heatsoaked/hotter on that 15psi pull then it would have been pulling spark.

I could see there being difference from 14-15 psi depending on conditions and efficiency, but based on the max numbers it looks pretty negligible (if conditions were the same). Lack of adaptive means the 14psi may be slightly better if it was fully adapted as well. IMO for your case, I would run that 14psi tune.
Yeah I agree 100% the 14psi tune will keep the pressure numbers at a better level also. The car sat for 30 minutes with the hood up before it was put on dyno, then another 15 minutes on the dyno with 2 big fans running while strapping it down. So I think if anything the 15psi tune had the advantage.


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2013 Non PP Unleashed 93 E20 3 Bar Tune, K&N drop in 12.491 @ 110.96 120's IAT
Now tuned by ajp...looking to go faster
E30 tune on14psi full weight including 2 child seats,race like a real street car.
12.433 @110.8 140's IAT; Mustang Dyno 332hp / 386tq

StealBlueSho

Quote from: f8tlSHO on March 01, 2017, 05:55:16 PM
Quote from: derfdog15 on March 01, 2017, 04:10:22 PM
Quote from: f8tlSHO on March 01, 2017, 03:46:21 PM
Here is the picture I have been waiting for..
Run 1 15psi e20
Run 2 14psi e20(loaded tune on dyno)
Run 3 stock with e20 fuel map(loaded tune on dyno)

This shows that higher boost does not always pay off



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I dont see the green line at all?

I think the run # on the min/max/avg is not the same as the colors below? Looks like 14 and 15 psi are pretty identical, +1 peak HP on 15psi (with adaptive) vs. + 5 peak tq on 14psi without adaptive. Where temperature, etc. the same at the start of these runs? if the car was heatsoaked/hotter on that 15psi pull then it would have been pulling spark.

I could see there being difference from 14-15 psi depending on conditions and efficiency, but based on the max numbers it looks pretty negligible (if conditions were the same). Lack of adaptive means the 14psi may be slightly better if it was fully adapted as well. IMO for your case, I would run that 14psi tune.
Yeah I agree 100% the 14psi tune will keep the pressure numbers at a better level also. The car sat for 30 minutes with the hood up before it was put on dyno, then another 15 minutes on the dyno with 2 big fans running while strapping it down. So I think if anything the 15psi tune had the advantage.


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Funny, I think Brad ran into this and LMS did as well when they were dyno testing... here was a point of no return with the boost.

f8tlSHO

Here is the same Dyno graph just labeled correctly for each run, so it is spelled out.
2013 Non PP Unleashed 93 E20 3 Bar Tune, K&N drop in 12.491 @ 110.96 120's IAT
Now tuned by ajp...looking to go faster
E30 tune on14psi full weight including 2 child seats,race like a real street car.
12.433 @110.8 140's IAT; Mustang Dyno 332hp / 386tq