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Tuning with minimal upgrades

Started by lsfox86, January 09, 2017, 03:01:26 PM

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ZSHO

#45
Quote from: lsfox86 on February 10, 2017, 06:52:28 PM
Any input on the LMS 91 v. 93 performance tunes?
I know you claimed 93 octane gasoline is easy to find above but are you using a top tier gas stations such as Shell,BP,Chevron,preferably at a busy station to be more ideal. Z


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

lsfox86

Quote from: ZSHO on February 10, 2017, 07:15:52 PM
Quote from: lsfox86 on February 10, 2017, 06:52:28 PM
Any input on the LMS 91 v. 93 performance tunes?
I know you claimed 93 octane gasoline is easy to find above but are you using a top tier gas stations such as Shell,BP,Chevron,preferably at a busy station to be more ideal. Z

Yes, always fueling up at Shell.
2015 - LMS tune - 160 thermostat - Borla cat back - K&N drop in - HID headlights/fogs - K40 radar

ZSHO

#47
Quote from: lsfox86 on February 10, 2017, 07:22:41 PM
Quote from: ZSHO on February 10, 2017, 07:15:52 PM
Quote from: lsfox86 on February 10, 2017, 06:52:28 PM
Any input on the LMS 91 v. 93 performance tunes?
I know you claimed 93 octane gasoline is easy to find above but are you using a top tier gas stations such as Shell,BP,Chevron,preferably at a busy station to be more ideal. Z

Yes, always fueling up at Shell.
If you have been switching between two tunes for a short period of time would try letting the fuel trims to adjust accordingly before switching between tunes.  Z
AFAIK negligible gains will be had between 91 & 93 octane.


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

shoville

Quote from: lsfox86 on January 09, 2017, 04:58:33 PM
I think I am going to remove my MDesign CAI.

Any particular reason why you thought about removing this CAI, if you don't mind me asking. If removed, would you think about selling.
'14 Taurus SHO    '14 Explorer XLT
Prior:
'08 F-350 King Ranch '12 Ram 1500 Express '05 Chevy 1500 WT
'13 Kia Sportage '99 BMW 550i MSport '04 BMW 325i Sport
'99 Ford Expedition Eddie Bauer '95 Ranger XLT '80 Chevy Malibu

SHOdded

I would advise that you work it out with anyone reselling the MDesign CAI to hlp with "warranty" service.  Unkess yiu are a fabricator you might be SOL if you need replacement parts.  Can you tell I am upset??? LOL
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

16MagSport

IsFox86, are you driving this thing with traction control enabled?  If so, do the 13 button clicks it takes to go into the menu and turn off traction control and trailer sway control.  I read in one of your earlier posts that the LMS tune only takes off a "little" quicker than stock.  My AJP Tune, which I am extremely happy with, takes off WAY quicker than stock.  The power comes in much quicker, like immediately off the line.  Stock, it sucked off the line.  You could tell it wasn't getting WOT off the line and much boost with the stock tune.  Stock, it doesn't really take off until you are up to around 20mph.  My 60ft times at the track went from a best of 2.194 seconds stock to 1.958 seconds.  This is huge and is on a 91 octane tune.  My wife even had it spinning the front tires for the first 5 feet at the track with my first really moderate tune.  It would spin a little before getting the power to the rear.  It never did that stock.  With that said, it doesn't take off nearly as quick with the tune if traction control is turned on.  Turn it off and then you'll feel a difference.  I have a hard time believing that the LMS tune is only a little quicker off the line.  The sluggish launch was definitely my biggest complaint about the Explorer stock and the tune rectified that for sure, but you have to turn off traction control to really feel it.

I have another tune to try but I picked the wrong spot to datalog 5 months ago and I am waiting to test it at the track now after spending $450 on a ticket!  It ran 14.54 stock and 13.81 tuned.  It also picked up 4mph.  Soon I'll be asking AJP for a hotter tune.  I really want 13.5 @ 100mph.  The current tune would probably do it if I ran it on a cold day.  I was not able to get out there when the air was cold.  I only ran it one night tuned and it was Extremely consistent compared to stock.  I won runner up that night.  I broke my collar bone 6 weeks ago and went back in a sling, after just getting out of a sling 5 months ago from shoulder surgery on the other side.  Anyway, I hope to get the Ex back out to the track soon and get some logs and then turn it up a little.  I am definitely happy with the performance daily driving.  He didn't make any shift point changes.  I might ask him about that too.  The only thing I don't like about the stock shift points is how quickly it gets to 3rd and always seems to lock the converter just as I am rolling on the throttle in 3rd and wanting to feel it pull.  It still pulls, but it messes with the senses to roll into it and hear the rpms drop as the converter locks eventhough you are accelerating.  Not a big deal, just the one spot that could use shifting improvement.  This is just unchanged from the stock tune.
2016 Magnetic Explorer Sport 401A  (Wife's DD)  13.55 @ 99.87 mph AJP Tune Only.
1993 Mustang, Big Bore Dart block 347 with Vortech SC, TKO500, 10.84 @ 128.5mph
         (Burned in Cali wildfire)
2006 Dodge Ram, 2WD Quad Cab Hemi, 14.60 @ 92mph
         (Burned in Cali wildfire)