So this arrived today

[staged_sho]

Just want to point out when I had my SHO with the LME 4+X tune, I used ACES IV, I still had audible knock under moderate partial throttle runs.  Obviously Torque Pro reflected this.  Ran an E85 blend next tank, and didn't experience any of that.  I stopped using ACES IV, and that's just my personal experience.

[ZSHO]

I would simply mention that all results may vary depending on the type,year and current mileage,condition of your current vehicle and the same rule may apply when using any such type of fuel,oil,additives.  Z

[FoMoCoSHO]

Just want to point out when I had my SHO with the LME 4+X tune, I used ACES IV, I still had audible knock under moderate partial throttle runs.  Obviously Torque Pro reflected this.  Ran an E85 blend next tank, and didn't experience any of that.  I stopped using ACES IV, and that's just my personal experience.

This is why I have urged caution for those wanting to run a 100 octane race tune. (does anybody even know how to quantify that?) I think there is another member here along with AGF that had an OAR drop. I think DX runs a hot tune on his SHO but OAR never hit -1 on it.

"Octane" with a given fuel will be consistent from vehicle to vehicle, "octane effect" will not IMHO so I strongly urge caution and I think the best path is using a tuner along with logs and turning up the wick slowly.

Personally, I don't use ACES for the "octane effect", I use corn. (Brian is not a fan) I do use ACES for the lubricity left behind for the reduction in bore wear and its ability to reduce preignition fighting hot spots which I believe is valid and I think I've pinned down the ingredients. Also I have so much corn in the tank that there is no way I could add anything to testing. I'd have to piss in the gas tank after an all night bender to see a oar drop which is currently maxed at -1.15.

I have done some research into trade secrets laws, particularly with regard to MSDS. It seems equitable to all parties so I am comfortable with having discussion about it if AGF is OK with me staying in the thread.

[AnotherGreenFusion]

Been away dealing with life stuff. I am ok with whatever discussion, in short if you can find the information on open public sources without a login/password or signing of an NDA its not a trade secret despite that the owner of the data may want to try and claim. Even if it was a trade secret, once it is out in the public sphere it no longer is. If you have access to confidential data I would not even mention anything from it if I were you. If it is something that you can click access to without a login wall, click agreement or signing of an NDA it is safe to share however that does not mean the party that owns it could not try and make your life a living hell in court (as usual the guy with the most money often wins just by filing motions and dragging things out to drain you).


Source: I am actually an IP law nut and have been for 20+ years (started with basic copyright) and actually work at a patent law services firm.

[jbrown9999]

Did the results ever come back in for the oil tests?

[ZSHO]

FYI- The OP has NOT been active since November 18, 2016!  Z   

[SHOdded]

Even his website is out of date, so IDK.