tial wastegate for charge piping

[Linemonkey]

Quick question. What is the diameter of the dump tube? I found several like this, on ebay, with the vband already welded. Would this work?

http://m.ebay.com/itm/Universal-Stainless-Dump-tube-Flanged-for-V-Band-for-Tial-MVS-38mm-Wastegate-/262830922805?nav=SEARCH

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[MiWiAu]

Quick question. What is the diameter of the dump tube? I found several like this, on ebay, with the vband already welded. Would this work?

http://m.ebay.com/itm/Universal-Stainless-Dump-tube-Flanged-for-V-Band-for-Tial-MVS-38mm-Wastegate-/262830922805?nav=SEARCH

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I'm pretty sure the outlet flange is a smaller diameter than the inlet, so you'd want to make sure that flange is compatible with the inlet side, otherwise you might need to weld a second larger flange to step up the diameter. (See picture 4 in post #66 above. I welded two vband flanges together to go from 1.5" tube up to the inlet diameter.

As far as OD of the tube, you'd need 1.5" to match the OD of the noisemaker port.


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[AJP turbo]

Quick question. What is the diameter of the dump tube? I found several like this, on ebay, with the vband already welded. Would this work?

http://m.ebay.com/itm/Universal-Stainless-Dump-tube-Flanged-for-V-Band-for-Tial-MVS-38mm-Wastegate-/262830922805?nav=SEARCH

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I think, but you will need to take one of the Vbands that come with the tial wastegate and weld it to the the Vband on the dumptube you buy. The vband on the dump tube you buy is meant to go on the outlet of the wastegate.....The way I did mine, I connected the dumptube to from the noisemaker hole to the INLET of the wastegate and the Vband on the tial is smaller if I remember.

So essentially you weld one of the tial vbands to the vband of the dumptube so you can use the clamp to connect the dumptube to the inlet of the tial gate then I just used rad hose to connect the dumptube to the noisemaker hole.

[Linemonkey]

I see. That makes sense. Thanks for the reply!

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[derfdog15]

The sizing on the MV-S is 1.75" for the OD for the VBand side that you need.

I detailed all of my parts used, for my setup, here: http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,7171.msg109449.html#msg109449

[Linemonkey]

The sizing on the MV-S is 1.75" for the OD for the VBand side that you need.

I detailed all of my parts used, for my setup, here: http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,7171.msg109449.html#msg109449

Thanks a lot. I don't know how I missed that

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[derfdog15]

The sizing on the MV-S is 1.75" for the OD for the VBand side that you need.

I detailed all of my parts used, for my setup, here: http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,7171.msg109449.html#msg109449

Thanks a lot. I don't know how I missed that

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No problem man, there are a plethora of threads on teh boost regulator mod, everyone does it a little different

[lamrith]

Could I use these parts to craft this for my car since there are no other options available yet?

https://www.amazon.com/Turbo-Valve-Flange-Adapter-Type-S/dp/B00U4A3GGG/ref=sr_1_21?ie=UTF8&qid=1478420246&sr=8-21&keywords=bov+t+pipe

https://www.amazon.com/Bolt-External-Exhaust-Manifold-Wastegate/dp/B00N1B62G6/ref=pd_sbs_263_2?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=Z8G2B2QHSSNKD6P4SSB0

I'd have to cut my intake hope to splice the t-pipe in, but it *shouls* work, shouldn't it? The 2.5" t-pipe is just for an example. I have to go measure the hose to make sure that's the right size.

I wouldn't use that wastegate on the turbo, but it should be fine in this application, right? Other than not being able to build boost, I can't imagine anything catastrophic happening even if the cheap WG fails. Also, since that WG only comes with 2 springs, can I use a boost controller to fine tune it?

Obviously this has to wait until SCT decides I'm allowed to get a tune...

BOT,
How did your install turn out?  I was looking at those exact parts myself.  I am keeping my eye open for WG options, and see a great many with that 2 bolt flange setup.  The trick I am having is finding an adjustable one that goes to the pressures we need.

[BOT_ROCKET]

Could I use these parts to craft this for my car since there are no other options available yet?

https://www.amazon.com/Turbo-Valve-Flange-Adapter-Type-S/dp/B00U4A3GGG/ref=sr_1_21?ie=UTF8&qid=1478420246&sr=8-21&keywords=bov+t+pipe

https://www.amazon.com/Bolt-External-Exhaust-Manifold-Wastegate/dp/B00N1B62G6/ref=pd_sbs_263_2?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=Z8G2B2QHSSNKD6P4SSB0

I'd have to cut my intake hope to splice the t-pipe in, but it *shouls* work, shouldn't it? The 2.5" t-pipe is just for an example. I have to go measure the hose to make sure that's the right size.

I wouldn't use that wastegate on the turbo, but it should be fine in this application, right? Other than not being able to build boost, I can't imagine anything catastrophic happening even if the cheap WG fails. Also, since that WG only comes with 2 springs, can I use a boost controller to fine tune it?

Obviously this has to wait until SCT decides I'm allowed to get a tune...

BOT,
How did your install turn out?  I was looking at those exact parts myself.  I am keeping my eye open for WG options, and see a great many with that 2 bolt flange setup.  The trick I am having is finding an adjustable one that goes to the pressures we need.

I ended up snagging SteelBlu's old tial, but I'm not going to install until: A) AJP gets the tuning kinks worked out for my car, and B) I get the full intake built and tuned.

[Macgyver]

Forgive me for not knowing as I am new to the SHO scene. Coming from a Nissan Juke Nismo RS. This is a whole different beast.

Question. Can you use a MBC with this motor?

If so and you want to stop Boost spiking. We solved this with a MBC. Last year while Dynoing. My Boost solenoid failed completely. During a pull mind you. Lets just say my tuner caught the over boost in time. 26psi(and it was still climbing) when he shut her down. So. We sourced another Solenoid at the Nissan dealer($60) and to prevent this from happening again. He plumbed a MBC in the boost circuit to act as a relief valve. The solenoid still controls the boost but the MBC is adjusted so it cannot go over a certain adjusted PSI. Set the Boost to 20psi and MBC to just a little over that and no more boost spikes. It works awesome.

I dont know if this idea can be used in this situation since there are two turbos etc. Its above my understanding of this engine at this point.

[Vortech347]

Dumb question after reading through this.  I understand how it makes fuel and boost control better but does it make an actual difference in ET/HP?

[FoMoCoSHO]

Dumb question after reading through this.  I understand how it makes fuel and boost control better but does it make an actual difference in ET/HP?

Nope, just controls nasty boost spikes which helps with pressure drops on the rail.

[StealBlueSho]

Dumb question after reading through this.  I understand how it makes fuel and boost control better but does it make an actual difference in ET/HP?

Nope, just controls nasty boost spikes which helps with pressure drops on the rail.

I would venture to say if anything, it might lower peak hp/tq since your not dealing with those big spikes anymore... but it would create a smoother torque/HP curve....

There are a couple dynos with and without it...

[AJP turbo]

I wouldnt be surprised if it helped power a bit...everything is more efficient if the throttle is open

[StealBlueSho]

I wouldnt be surprised if it helped power a bit...everything is more efficient if the throttle is open

Yup, smoother power band... less peaks and valleys on a dyno sheet...

Open throttle vs throttle controlled load has been proven to increase power on the Ford Focus.