"How- to" Access Advanced Ford PIDs Using a Scan Tool

adelsin · July 19, 2013, 12:46:02 AM

May need help with it.

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dalum · July 19, 2013, 12:46:17 AM

My ford tech cd still calls it a SJB I think. It was the "fuse box" under the dash I believe I'll have to look at it again tomorrow. The output for my drivers front turn signal got hosed.

breeves002 · July 19, 2013, 01:01:14 AM

Quote from: dalum on July 19, 2013, 12:46:17 AM
My ford tech cd still calls it a SJB I think. It was the "fuse box" under the dash I believe I'll have to look at it again tomorrow. The output for my drivers front turn signal got hosed.

They may not have updated it. I'm 90% sure that its a BCM in the 2013's. It's virtually the same thing, just different terminology. On any car without a gateway module the networks meet up in the instrument cluster. I could be wrong on the BCM, I'll try to find out for sure.

EcoPowerParts · July 19, 2013, 12:54:22 PM

I have confirmation that the devices from Scantool.net:
http://www.scantool.net/obdlink-mx.html
and
http://www.scantool.net/scan-tools/smart-phone/obdlink-bluetooth.html

Can do both HS and MS CAN data logging, I am working on confirming if it is simultaneously.
No switch required.
I'm also working on getting myself set up as a dealer or have them set up some group buys.
Great thing is they are here in Phoenix with me.

breeves002 · July 19, 2013, 01:08:42 PM

Thats great news! Planning on finding out some sweet info on a 2013 tonight so stay tuned!
EDIT: Just read you are trying to find out if it works simultaneously. That is the big question. I knew at least the first could do both.

I'm planning on buying one of these pretty soon: http://batman.homelinux.com/blog/stn1170-bluetooth-obdii-adapter/

It's the STN1170 chip but costs less than the OBDLink MX.

The only thing I could ask for now is access to dealer scan tool software as well as a writable scan tool device. Of course even if I got the dealer software for free, the hardware is crazy expensive.

adelsin · July 19, 2013, 06:00:14 PM

Read in the manual about BCM today... hope that helps. I should be available about 5pm tonight AZ time.

Need to load the laptop with scantool drivers, download and install forscan, and for time's sake, get teamviewer on it. I'm on point to point wireless with no dedicated IP. You may have to settle for skype.

adelsin · July 19, 2013, 09:02:16 PM

I set up FORscan and my adapter... Enabled hscan on the sofyware... Then my awd turned off then on a lot threw some abs codes and then service awd light came on then off...

Couldnt find any of the 4wd pids mentioned in the screenshot. Do i have to do something to get them to show?

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ecoboostsho · July 19, 2013, 09:12:30 PM

Hmmm...mine did something similar with the ABS (threw a code related to ABS but not the 4x4 module) but thought it was just me. Try this. Turn off the car. unplug the adapter. Close Forscan. Restart the car and the adapter. Then try and run Forscan again. Clear the DTC's. Try connecting again. If that doesn't work repeat the "reset".

The code seemed to keep Forscan from working somehow although I could clear it. I'm assuming you don't have any other OBD readers (i.e. Torque) connected at the same time. That would give pretty unpredictable results.

adelsin · July 19, 2013, 09:30:28 PM

I dont jave the 4wd clutch pwm status

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adelsin · July 19, 2013, 09:31:09 PM

I have awd clutch commanded and diagnostic signal

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adelsin · July 19, 2013, 09:55:19 PM

First Row, APP - Accelerator Pedal Position

Second Row, AWD_CLTCH_CMD - AWD Clutch Control Commanded

Third Row, AWD_CLT_DIAGSIG - AWD Clutch Diagnostic Signal

I'm assuming Second Row is the AWD engaging?

One is 0-60 with powerbraking... notice how the clutch control is commanded prior to full launch?

I'm chalking up not having the same settings due to being a 2013. :/

Other is normal driving down street. No traction slip.

breeves002 · July 19, 2013, 11:03:44 PM

Looks like the AWD is working correctly! You can see how its getting ready for you to launch (not quite going full on, but close). Then you can see how you go WOT and it pops up to full on with you.

breeves002 · July 19, 2013, 11:31:15 PM

So some new info today! Connected to HSCAN only to a 2013 SHO. Thank you to adelsin for the help! Our conversation got cut short, but learning new things every day!!

See we have the BdyCM for the Body Control Module which replaced the SJB for the 2013MY! Ran a self test on it and it honked the horn at people he was near

heh! Interestingly enough it goes over HSCAN instead of MSCAN like the SJB on the previous years goes over. It may have an MSCAN section too, but we didn't get to that since his reader ONLY reads HSCAN.

It seems that the AWD module was removed for the 2013MY and is now built directly into the PCM! Interesting! Still need someone that has an OBDLink MX to please connect to MSCAN and show me everything on that side to confirm everything.

adelsin · July 20, 2013, 12:13:39 AM

I may be able to get with 4D and borrow his to see whats connecting. I wonder if I select no to hscan if it displays ms can??

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breeves002 · July 20, 2013, 12:41:18 AM

Quote from: adelsin on July 20, 2013, 12:13:39 AM
I may be able to get with 4D and borrow his to see whats connecting. I wonder if I select no to hscan if it displays ms can??

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Possibly, I'm wondering if FORScan just can't display MSCAN through the STN1170 chip, and only through the ELM327 with a switch.... I'll have to do some research.