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MKS sub with pictures

Started by Scott4957, June 12, 2016, 03:09:53 PM

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Scott4957

Finally pulled the trunk apart to see what was in there. Its a 10" sub, dual 2 ohm voice coil free air. The cover makes a bit of an enclosure but is by no means sealed, in fact it has a bunch of holes in it. I measured the opening and it is exactly 10 inches so it should fit just about any 10 inch sub as most are under 10 inches for the hole. The stock sub is dropped in from the top which means I have to figure out how to pull the rear deck apart, that sucks. Once I get that apart I will likely mount the new sub from the bottom so I don't have to deal with that again. Here are some pictures.





2013 Lincoln MKS EcoBoost, AJP Tuned

sholxgt

#1
Thanks!  Are my eyes deceiving me or is that the smallest magnet on a 10" sub of all time?

Looks like a really, really well braced deck though.  I bet that thing could handle a more serious subwoofer. 

Can you tell yet if the other speakers are isolated from the trunk?
Current - 2019 F150 Platinum FX4 3.5 EB
Formerly -2013 MKS Ecoboost Premium
PPE Catted DP's, 170 Reische TS, K&N Drop In, AJP Tune only at track - 12.87@106

Scott4957

Quote from: sholxgt on June 12, 2016, 03:13:47 PM
Thanks!  Are my eyes deceiving me or is that the smallest magnet on a 10" sub of all time?

Looks like a really, really well braced deck though.  I bet that thing could handle a more serious subwoofer. 

Can you tell yet if the other speakers are isolated from the trunk?
They are, I can't even see them.

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2013 Lincoln MKS EcoBoost, AJP Tuned

glock-coma

The sub magnet is probably neodymium, which would explain its small size.
The opening where the seats would fold down looks identical to the SHO.
2010 red candy metallic non PP 402B
AJPTURBO 2 BAR Tune Stock 14.1@100.3 / Tuned 12.83@107.7
K&N panel, RX OCC, Sp-534 @.30 Tint 50%F-35%R BOV bypass
1997 SHO silver frost (sold)
1990 SHO triple black 5-speed (saved my life)

sholxgt

Wow!  Looks like if I want to stick with my idea of just replacing the factory speaker to see if I get an improvement, I have very limited speaker options.

Searching for a 2 ohm, DVC, 10" sub that is free air capable I've only found one suitable candidate.  The Kicker CompD 40CWD102. 

https://www.amazon.com/Kicker-40CWD102-CompD-inch-Subwoofer/dp/B00BGRMCI4/ref=sr_1_1?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1465766416&sr=1-1&keywords=40CWD102

On the bright side, it would be the cheapest sub I ever bought. LOL
Current - 2019 F150 Platinum FX4 3.5 EB
Formerly -2013 MKS Ecoboost Premium
PPE Catted DP's, 170 Reische TS, K&N Drop In, AJP Tune only at track - 12.87@106

glock-coma

Are you planning on using the factor amp? If not you can use any combo of ohm/voice coil. 
2010 red candy metallic non PP 402B
AJPTURBO 2 BAR Tune Stock 14.1@100.3 / Tuned 12.83@107.7
K&N panel, RX OCC, Sp-534 @.30 Tint 50%F-35%R BOV bypass
1997 SHO silver frost (sold)
1990 SHO triple black 5-speed (saved my life)

sholxgt

#6
Quote from: glock-coma on June 12, 2016, 05:34:55 PM
Are you planning on using the factor amp? If not you can use any combo of ohm/voice coil.

I am considering the idea of just installing an upgraded speaker and seeing if it meets my needs.  Figure I could add an amplifier later if it didn't.

Being a 2ohm DVC sub though makes that a little harder since it limits the choices.  Plus, if I decided later that I wanted to add an amplifier, I would need one that is 1 ohm stable I think?  Been a while since I've dug into this topic.
Current - 2019 F150 Platinum FX4 3.5 EB
Formerly -2013 MKS Ecoboost Premium
PPE Catted DP's, 170 Reische TS, K&N Drop In, AJP Tune only at track - 12.87@106

glock-coma

You could go 4 ohm or 1 ohm with dvc 2 ohm sub.

I don't think you'll  notice a huge difference with just a different sub.  Not sure what the sensitivity is on the factory sub but the kicker is 86.2 db.
2010 red candy metallic non PP 402B
AJPTURBO 2 BAR Tune Stock 14.1@100.3 / Tuned 12.83@107.7
K&N panel, RX OCC, Sp-534 @.30 Tint 50%F-35%R BOV bypass
1997 SHO silver frost (sold)
1990 SHO triple black 5-speed (saved my life)

TX MKS-T

I had a heck of a time trying to add a sub to the exisitng THX system which ended in me finally scrapping the addition. The factory AMP is a complex piece and trying to use a clean sweep to get a l ine convertor added didnt work either. Outside of replacing all speakers and factory amp I saw no other way of adding some wanted punch to the factory system. Id like to see how the sub replacement turns out since I didnt explore that route, im subing to this thread :)
2010 MKS-T * K&N Drop In/Power Stop Rotors
2007 Tundra TRD 5.7 - The Toy Hauler
2014 Mitsu Outlander - Kid Hauler

Scott4957

TX, i'm surprised you had so much trouble. Everyone seems to have had good luck using the LC2I to pull a signal off one of the speak outputs. I have placed an order for everything I need, the LC2I will be here tomorrow, and on Wednesday the Rockford R500X1D, Kappa 120.9w "went with the 12in" and a wiring kit. I will start with a free air/IB setup first to answer the question of whether or not it will work well. If I don't like it I'll build a sealed enclosure that will mount to the bottom of the rear deck.

I'm guessing the wiring diagram is different from the Sony that is posted. If anyone knows the best wires to tap for the LC2I please let me know, I assume I will only need one pair running mono. I also assume you need to tap the outputs from the amp to get vol control?
2013 Lincoln MKS EcoBoost, AJP Tuned

TX MKS-T

Yeah same hear having wired numerous systems but the THX setup is a whole other beast. I used the same line convertor your going with as well. I ended up pulling signal coming out of the amp but had no volume control off it and no other wires offered signal. Your 13 could be different though, fingers crossed you succeed though !

Oh and I researched for hours to locate wiring diagram for the THX and its like hush hush to find anything on ours.
2010 MKS-T * K&N Drop In/Power Stop Rotors
2007 Tundra TRD 5.7 - The Toy Hauler
2014 Mitsu Outlander - Kid Hauler

Scott4957

Quote from: TX MKS-T on June 13, 2016, 10:50:16 AM
Yeah same hear having wired numerous systems but the THX setup is a whole other beast. I used the same line convertor your going with as well. I ended up pulling signal coming out of the amp but had no volume control off it and no other wires offered signal. Your 13 could be different though, fingers crossed you succeed though !

Oh and I researched for hours to locate wiring diagram for the THX and its like hush hush to find anything on ours.

Oh fun, that doesn't give me the warm fuzzys. I would think worst case you could pull from the existing sub leads, not sure what the range is. It is usually avoided so you can get a full range signal and let the LC2I do the work.
2013 Lincoln MKS EcoBoost, AJP Tuned

glock-coma

I would try to tap the rear door coaxial signal for the sub. That way you can set the crossover to your liking and not be handcuffed by the facp try rear sub signal.
Obviously you'll have to get a wiring diagram for the factory amp.
2010 red candy metallic non PP 402B
AJPTURBO 2 BAR Tune Stock 14.1@100.3 / Tuned 12.83@107.7
K&N panel, RX OCC, Sp-534 @.30 Tint 50%F-35%R BOV bypass
1997 SHO silver frost (sold)
1990 SHO triple black 5-speed (saved my life)

Scott4957

Quote from: glock-coma on June 13, 2016, 10:57:51 AM
I would try to tap the rear door coaxial signal for the sub. That way you can set the crossover to your liking and not be handcuffed by the facp try rear sub signal.
Obviously you'll have to get a wiring diagram for the factory amp.

Hmmm, maybe Kevin can get that for me. I guess worst case I can pull the rear door panel and look at the wiring. Need to make sure I get the polarity correct as well. My concern with the sub output is bass roll off, though the LC2i can handle that as well. I have no idea what the cross over points are either. Its just super easy to get to so it would be nice if I could use it.
2013 Lincoln MKS EcoBoost, AJP Tuned

glock-coma

The lci2 has bass restoration so it will compensate for any factory roll off.
You can try at the sub wiring for the signal, but only use one set of +/-
You might be fine with the factory xover. 
2010 red candy metallic non PP 402B
AJPTURBO 2 BAR Tune Stock 14.1@100.3 / Tuned 12.83@107.7
K&N panel, RX OCC, Sp-534 @.30 Tint 50%F-35%R BOV bypass
1997 SHO silver frost (sold)
1990 SHO triple black 5-speed (saved my life)