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Started by A 01 Badger, June 07, 2016, 05:55:03 PM

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A 01 Badger

June 07, 2016, 05:55:03 PM
Not sure if related or coincidence but I updated sync on Friday and had a dead battery on Monday after not touching the car all weekend. So dead that after a jump Monday morning and running it for 8 hours straight it was dead today. Ran it again all day and shut it off for 30 min. Dead. Alternator shot?  Something with the update screw with the system?  I haven't tested battery or alternator yet but am late for a meeting and waiting for a jump. Anyone else experience this issue with latest update?  Probably not related but who knows
Sold - 2013 SHO w/ PP LMS 93 Tune, 3 Bar, NGK Iridium Plugs, MDesign CAI,  30% tint

2018 XSport - AJP Turbo tune, Steeda Rear Sway Bar and Rear Trailing Arms

2011 Audi S4 mt6 - EPL Stage 2 tune, Injen intake, EPL supercharger pulley, RDX Billet trans mount, ECS sub frame inserts, JXB Performance Short Throw shift kit.

SHOdded

#1
June 07, 2016, 06:16:10 PM
Could be Sync itself, or could be the battery was already on its' last legs.  Is the battery original to the car?  If so, it's probably overdue for replacement.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

BiGMaC

#2
June 07, 2016, 10:06:54 PM
Quote from: A 01 Badger on June 07, 2016, 05:55:03 PM
Not sure if related or coincidence but I updated sync on Friday and had a dead battery on Monday after not touching the car all weekend. So dead that after a jump Monday morning and running it for 8 hours straight it was dead today. Ran it again all day and shut it off for 30 min. Dead. Alternator shot?  Something with the update screw with the system?  I haven't tested battery or alternator yet but am late for a meeting and waiting for a jump. Anyone else experience this issue with latest update?  Probably not related but who knows
Haven't had a problem with computer updates.... But my dealer did replace the battery on my '13 SHO about a year ago without being asked under the extended Ford maintenance when I was in for an oil change. (free at time done)... They told me the battery was week.

•2013 Taurus SHO nonPP - All Ford factory options, 3BAR MAP, LMS v8 tune (mods for 3BAR, DPs, and T-stat), Paint & plastic correction, CQuart finest all exterior surfaces, limo black window tint,VLED Triton switchbacks, Daytime BrightLites switchback DRLs, full interior and exterior LED conversion, Lamin-X charcoal blackout tail lights and reflectors, PPE catted and coated downpipes, EBPP coated hotpipes with BoVs VTA, MDesign CAI
•2013 F250 CC Lariat 6.7EB Diesel -stock

A 01 Badger

#3
June 07, 2016, 10:49:32 PM
Had a chance to check everything. No draw anywhere in the system while car is off. Put a 30 amp quick charge in it and started to smell acid. It appears there is some type of relief valve at the top of the battery which was allowing a little vapor and liquid to escape.  Not sure why the charger would cause it to get so hot. Anyway, got it to barely turn over and start when the battery got to 10.5 volts. Once running, pushing 14.4 volts so alternator is good. Guess it could be coinincidence that the battery went dead right after sync update. Bought the car used from dealer and I can't find a date on the battery so I am going to assume it's Original to the car and would be between 3-4 years old with 52000 miles on it. Side of motor raft battery says 3 year replacement, year 4-5 prorated.   Will call dealer tomorrow to see if they will help. If not, any recommendations on an upgraded battery? 
Sold - 2013 SHO w/ PP LMS 93 Tune, 3 Bar, NGK Iridium Plugs, MDesign CAI,  30% tint

2018 XSport - AJP Turbo tune, Steeda Rear Sway Bar and Rear Trailing Arms

2011 Audi S4 mt6 - EPL Stage 2 tune, Injen intake, EPL supercharger pulley, RDX Billet trans mount, ECS sub frame inserts, JXB Performance Short Throw shift kit.

FoMoCoSHO

#4
June 07, 2016, 10:58:44 PM
When I need my fourth battery that I have to pay for I will put the biggest baddest one that will fit.

A 01 Badger

#5
June 07, 2016, 11:38:22 PM
Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on June 07, 2016, 10:58:44 PM
When I need my fourth battery that I have to pay for I will put the biggest baddest one that will fit.
My sediments exactly, was more looking to see if anyone had an idea of what that battery was? 
Sold - 2013 SHO w/ PP LMS 93 Tune, 3 Bar, NGK Iridium Plugs, MDesign CAI,  30% tint

2018 XSport - AJP Turbo tune, Steeda Rear Sway Bar and Rear Trailing Arms

2011 Audi S4 mt6 - EPL Stage 2 tune, Injen intake, EPL supercharger pulley, RDX Billet trans mount, ECS sub frame inserts, JXB Performance Short Throw shift kit.

FoMoCoSHO

#6
June 07, 2016, 11:56:19 PM Last Edit: June 08, 2016, 12:03:22 AM by FoMoCoSHO
Motorcraft 850

It is in the Ford parts catalog for the Taurus.

I think it's actually bigger than the PI battery.

http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detail/MOT2/BXT65850.oap?ck=Search_03321_1122163_-1&pt=03321&ppt=C0005

SHOdded

#7
June 08, 2016, 01:03:07 AM
If you can shell out for an AGM battery (such as the Odyssey), so much the better.  But the Motorcraft Tough Max 850 is also a good place to start.

More than likely the case cracked on the battery currently in the car.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

A 01 Badger

#8
June 08, 2016, 12:03:57 PM
Should the 850 have been standard?

Optima doesn't have a battery that is a direct fit. Any others?
Sold - 2013 SHO w/ PP LMS 93 Tune, 3 Bar, NGK Iridium Plugs, MDesign CAI,  30% tint

2018 XSport - AJP Turbo tune, Steeda Rear Sway Bar and Rear Trailing Arms

2011 Audi S4 mt6 - EPL Stage 2 tune, Injen intake, EPL supercharger pulley, RDX Billet trans mount, ECS sub frame inserts, JXB Performance Short Throw shift kit.

SHOdded

#9
June 08, 2016, 01:04:57 PM
How did you look up Optima choices?  Their website sucks when it comes to that, you have to check battery sizes instead.  Odyssey, if you can find it, is a solid choice.  But you will find AGMs under many brands including local stores like Sears, Advance Auto, etc.  Most of the good batteries are made by Johnson Controls anyway.  So if you stick with good ole lead acid, you might want to look into an Interstate (don't know if they have AGM).

And yes, 850 should have been standard for these cars.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

sholxgt

#10
June 08, 2016, 01:17:22 PM
FWIW, the dealer put a 650cca Motorcraft in mine.  Not sure what the original battery was.
Current - 2019 F150 Platinum FX4 3.5 EB
Formerly -2013 MKS Ecoboost Premium
PPE Catted DP's, 170 Reische TS, K&N Drop In, AJP Tune only at track - 12.87@106

ZSHO

#11
June 08, 2016, 02:01:57 PM Last Edit: June 08, 2016, 02:07:41 PM by ZSHO
The Motorcraft BXT-65-850 is Definitely a great battery and have it almost two years now and the Ford dealer gave me the free upgrade because i'm such a nice person,lol under warranty and its the same size as the MC-650 but its roughly 10+pounds heavier and the 65 is the fitment for your vehicle.  Z  :)


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

A 01 Badger

#12
June 08, 2016, 02:22:37 PM
Quote from: SHOdded on June 08, 2016, 01:04:57 PM
How did you look up Optima choices?  Their website sucks when it comes to that, you have to check battery sizes instead.  Odyssey, if you can find it, is a solid choice.  But you will find AGMs under many brands including local stores like Sears, Advance Auto, etc.  Most of the good batteries are made by Johnson Controls anyway.  So if you stick with good ole lead acid, you might want to look into an Interstate (don't know if they have AGM).

And yes, 850 should have been standard for these cars.

I did use the website , tried to take the easy way out. I feel like the 850 is sufficient, I will see what he dealer says ( sitting there now using them free wifi and drinking the free soda.)

I agree JCI makes most batteries and living in Milwaukee I am prone to support them but knowing people who work their I have been told they actually started reducing capacity in their batteries because they were lasting too long, which is troublesome but I guess you gotta make money somehow.

I can get a Duracell AGM with 750 cca for $169. Seems almost too cheap. Anyone have experience with Duracell as an automotive battery ?
Sold - 2013 SHO w/ PP LMS 93 Tune, 3 Bar, NGK Iridium Plugs, MDesign CAI,  30% tint

2018 XSport - AJP Turbo tune, Steeda Rear Sway Bar and Rear Trailing Arms

2011 Audi S4 mt6 - EPL Stage 2 tune, Injen intake, EPL supercharger pulley, RDX Billet trans mount, ECS sub frame inserts, JXB Performance Short Throw shift kit.

sholxgt

#13
June 08, 2016, 02:26:28 PM Last Edit: June 08, 2016, 02:28:16 PM by sholxgt
To the best of my knowledge, Duracell does not make automotive batteries.  They just license their name.

Edit: looked it up.  They are made by East Penn.  I am not familiar with their other brands.  They appear to be a private label company mostly.
Current - 2019 F150 Platinum FX4 3.5 EB
Formerly -2013 MKS Ecoboost Premium
PPE Catted DP's, 170 Reische TS, K&N Drop In, AJP Tune only at track - 12.87@106

SHOdded

#14
June 08, 2016, 02:43:15 PM Last Edit: June 08, 2016, 03:02:58 PM by SHOdded
Very few reviews on Duracell AGMs, majority on Sams Club site.  4/5

AC Delco AGM seems to be favored on Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/ACDelco-65AGM-Professional-Automotive-Battery/dp/B00LCFHKCS


Odyssey:
http://www.amazon.com/Odyssey-65-PC1750T-Automotive-LTV-Battery/dp/B00249GW9S

Interstate Battery Options:
http://www.interstatebatteries.com/b/automotive-truck/2010/ford/taurus/N-lZzihwsuZ1z0twgeZ1z0tvn9Zzihwsq
Mega-Tron Plus 65 Automotive Battery Six-Year Performance 850 CCA might be a good choice.
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Motorcraft Battery Specs:
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!
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