Best Bang for 2500

zach_435 · May 14, 2016, 03:42:30 PM

Curious if you guys can give me some guidance on what the best upgrades/upgrade will be to get the most hp for around 2500.

ZSHO · May 14, 2016, 03:55:52 PM

Definitely Meth injection along with a nice set of PPE Catted DP from info@ecopowerparts.com ,both can be had for well under that price range including install,more info can be found here. Z http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,808.0.html

SHOdded · May 14, 2016, 04:05:26 PM

^ x2. Since you are already tuned, you are ahead in the numbers game. Don't know if you have added the 3 bar & TStat mods yet. Those are musthaves also. Adjustable end links for better alignment options. Spring for an all-Amsoil setup in the powertrain: Engine oil, trans, PTU, RDU (Motor City Synthetics is a vendor on here you can use). Maybe a brake fluid flush too. Not sure if the exhaust cutouts will fit, contact Mike @ EcoPowerParts on that.

Brakes & cooling are pretty well taken care of with the Perf Pkg.

FoMoCoSHO · May 14, 2016, 04:09:57 PM

Is maintaining warranty plausibility important?

Meth makes that really difficult.

BiGMaC · May 14, 2016, 09:31:50 PM

Here's a link to a thread that's about 18 months old.... So prices are low... But the info is pretty accurate. Both Z and FoMoCo are correct.

http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,808.msg7294.html#msg7294

I'm waiting on my extended warranty to do it, but meth should be good for 60-70 AWHP and equivalent torque increases. Down pipes can add 12-17 AWHP depending on cats or not...but they will shift your power curve down about 400rpm giving you the power sooner... That's what it did on my SHO on the dyno... And on my butt dyno too. There is always the ATP Bolt on turbo upgrade also.... Adds about 60-70% increase in both impeller and compressor capability.

BTW... Noticed your sig. Where did you get the Megan coilovers?... I've been waiting for some that will fit a '13+

zach_435 · May 15, 2016, 01:35:21 AM

Thanks for the input guys i appreciate it.

But i think after looking at ATP's website I'm leaning more towards the turbo upgrade. I also think that if I don't touch anything else in there I could still get away with any warranty work as the they look identical to the stock turbos.

seeing that an f150 that was making 500 whp and 530 tq ran a 12.8 i think this could get me deep into the 12's.

who all on here has done just the turbo upgrade and a tune with a 3 bar curious of the results. I am trying to make this thing look and sound as stock as possible to create the ultimate sleeper.

AJP turbo · May 15, 2016, 07:18:12 AM

I would love to tune on atp turbos....might not even need a 3 bar....13-15 psi on bigger turbos would probably have awsome output

BiGMaC · May 15, 2016, 09:00:40 AM

bpd1151 is the only member that I'm sure has those upgraded ATP turbos... Maybe he'll chime in.

Still wondering where you got those Megan coilovers to fit your '15...

bpd1151 · May 15, 2016, 09:24:34 AM

What's the question??

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ZSHO · May 15, 2016, 09:28:57 AM

Quote from: BiGMaC on May 15, 2016, 09:00:40 AM
bpd1151 is the only member that I'm sure has those upgraded ATP turbos... Maybe he'll chime in.

Still wondering where you got those Megan coilovers to fit your '15...

Tom think they are Megan Prototype's,more info can be found here. Z http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,5733.msg90541.html#msg90541 Hopefully Mike from EPP will have an update. IDK.

ZSHO · May 15, 2016, 10:05:50 AM

Quote from: bpd1151 on May 15, 2016, 09:24:34 AM
What's the question??

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Mike think the OP wants to know if a Tune & upgraded ATP turbo's will put him in the Deep 12's,thanks. Z

AJP turbo · May 15, 2016, 10:14:05 AM

I would be upset if turbos didnt get me into the high 11's

bpd what boost do you run in the atp's and meth or no?

bpd1151 · May 15, 2016, 10:41:05 AM

Quote from: AJP turbo on May 15, 2016, 10:14:05 AMI would be upset if turbos didnt get me into the high 11's

bpd what boost do you run in the atp's and meth or no?

Anyone can be upset as they want.... The fact is, there have only been a total of 5 late model SHO owners who have broken into the 11's AJP.

Me, Jacob, Darelli, FirstSHO, and one other.

The 11's have proven incredibly elusive for the SHO platform. It takes heaps of work to get these fat pigs hurdling down the track to cross over into those realms.

So discouraging in fact, that of the 5, only 2 still have possession of their SHO's. That would be me, and then Jacob.

Looking at the OP's signature, I see he has some supporting hardware to compliment a potential turbo upgrade. Doesn't really detail his "custom" exhaust work, or to what extent that entails. Also, suffice to say, him running 10.5" wide rims at all four corners isn't helping.

He also goes onto compare the F150 (which as we all know, has different/hardened internals, as well as different, larger turbos) so to compare what an F150 is doing, to a SHO, isn't necessarily appropriate either.

Has the OP run his SHO at the track with the mods currently installed? If not, should do so.

This will give him at least a baseline to work from, and a reasonable target range of times to head towards.

I would say simply slapping on the ATP's, and then adjusting the tune file to take advantage of them, he would really be testing the limitations of the SHO's internals. At least to the degree of expecting any longevity out of it.

Also, without any supporting fuels mods, and me being generous.....

I would really be surprised if he were to eek out a 12.2 at best.

To answer your boost question though AJ......

Daily Driver Tune File (400awhp) = 18lbs
Stage 1 Track File (525awhp) = 22lbs
Stage 2 Track File (617awhp) = 26lbs

And yes to the Methanol. 100%. No watering it down / diluting it.

SHOdded · May 15, 2016, 11:32:46 AM

If only we could achieve McLaren 650s type performance with the SHO ...

It takes time & money, like everything else. Until the SHO goes full aluminum bodied, I don't see that really happening at a reasonable cost. EPA & Insurance being just 2 of the reasons.

BiGMaC · May 15, 2016, 02:52:25 PM

Quote from: SHOdded on May 15, 2016, 11:32:46 AM
If only we could achieve McLaren 650s type performance with the SHO ... It takes time & money, like everything else. Until the SHO goes full aluminum bodied, I don't see that really happening at a reasonable cost. EPA & Insurance being just 2 of the reasons.

Agree... Aluminum would cut the weight by 1000lbs. I bet... But alas I'm pretty sure the US Taurus is being discontinued. Also, don't confuse the 3.5TT GDI in the 650S or the '17 Ford GT with the ones in our SHOs... I get the trade news, and it is a very different engine despite displacement...