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2015 SHO tune issue

Started by SVTCruz, April 04, 2016, 10:14:18 AM

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SVTCruz

Has anyone ever heard of or experienced their SHO's battery dying with a tune? I have a 2015 Taurus SHO non-PP. Ever since I got it tuned if I leave the car sitting for 24hrs the battery will go fully dead. When I return it back to stock I can leave the car sitting for days with no problem. I tested this out several times with the same results. I even left it with Ford for about a week and the car passed the battery test, alternator test and draw test. For now I will prefer to keep the tuner's name out of this, pending on how this problem is taken care of.

SHOdded

Seems really odd that a tune would do this, should not affect the vehicle when it's turned off.  I would check current draw with the tune loaded, so the old pull one fuse at a time thing to figure out if there's a particular circuit involved.  Security, audio/video are usually the heavyduty culprits.  Do you hear any relays clicking or lights switching on/off when the SHO's turned off (with tune loaded)?
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

SVTCruz

Quote from: SHOdded on April 04, 2016, 10:23:07 AM
Seems really odd that a tune would do this, should not affect the vehicle when it's turned off.  I would check current draw with the tune loaded, so the old pull one fuse at a time thing to figure out if there's a particular circuit involved.  Security, audio/video are usually the heavyduty culprits.  Do you hear any relays clicking or lights switching on/off when the SHO's turned off (with tune loaded)?

No I don't hear anything with the tune loaded and the vehicle off, but I'll double check later. Everything is stock except for the tune and the 3 bar map sensor. Could it be a defective map senor?

SHOdded

#3
Hard to imagine that itty-bitty sensor being so much trouble!  But if it is shorting, sure could draw down the battery.  Easy to check with a multimeter though, or simply disconnect the connector with the engine off and check the amp draw on the battery before/after.

Good time to make sure the connectors on the sensor are clean (electrical parts cleaner/MAF cleaner, or simply compressed air), as they can also cause a short when put together.  After cleaning, add some dielectric grease before snapping back together, helps keep water & dirt out.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

ZSHO

Does the Battery management system appear on the screen (battery saver)? Z


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

AJP turbo

I don't even see anything in SCT software for battery ANYTHING.....What model battery do you have? That BXT 650 is garbage
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ZSHO

I was curious if you have a obd adapter plugged in the port?


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

BiGMaC

Have you gotten a revised tune? Have you asked your tuner? Is everything off ... Everything... When you flash the tune?

•2013 Taurus SHO nonPP - All Ford factory options, 3BAR MAP, LMS v8 tune (mods for 3BAR, DPs, and T-stat), Paint & plastic correction, CQuart finest all exterior surfaces, limo black window tint,VLED Triton switchbacks, Daytime BrightLites switchback DRLs, full interior and exterior LED conversion, Lamin-X charcoal blackout tail lights and reflectors, PPE catted and coated downpipes, EBPP coated hotpipes with BoVs VTA, MDesign CAI
•2013 F250 CC Lariat 6.7EB Diesel -stock

BiGMaC

Quote from: ZSHO on April 04, 2016, 11:02:31 AM
I was curious if you have a obd adapter plugged in the port?
Good thought Z.

•2013 Taurus SHO nonPP - All Ford factory options, 3BAR MAP, LMS v8 tune (mods for 3BAR, DPs, and T-stat), Paint & plastic correction, CQuart finest all exterior surfaces, limo black window tint,VLED Triton switchbacks, Daytime BrightLites switchback DRLs, full interior and exterior LED conversion, Lamin-X charcoal blackout tail lights and reflectors, PPE catted and coated downpipes, EBPP coated hotpipes with BoVs VTA, MDesign CAI
•2013 F250 CC Lariat 6.7EB Diesel -stock

SVTCruz

I ordered a new map bar just to be on the safe side. I will make sure everything is clean and use dielectric in the connector. When i turn off the car i unplug everything. I was sent a new tune the week before i dropped the car off with Ford, but the samething happened. I have the factory battery from ford. But as stated Ford said it passed. They said they even let the car sit for 3 days and it still starts up just fine. When I pick up the car later I'll check for a draw with the tune installed

SVTCruz

Quote from: ZSHO on April 04, 2016, 10:32:23 AM
Does the Battery management system appear on the screen (battery saver)? Z

Yeah i did notice a prompt on the screen when the car wouldnt start

SVTCruz

Quote from: BiGMaC on April 04, 2016, 11:02:44 AM
Have you gotten a revised tune? Have you asked your tuner? Is everything off ... Everything... When you flash the tune?

I believe the interior lights were still on while i was loading the tune. Could that be the issue?

ZSHO

#12
I would also simply check the settings on the left side of the instrument cluster to make sure if any feature was changed especially after loading a tune.  Z


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

BiGMaC

Quote from: SVTCruz on April 04, 2016, 11:28:00 AM
Quote from: BiGMaC on April 04, 2016, 11:02:44 AM
Have you gotten a revised tune? Have you asked your tuner? Is everything off ... Everything... When you flash the tune?

I believe the interior lights were still on while i was loading the tune. Could that be the issue?
Not sure, but for the MyCal directions say everything off, don't open doors or operate anything electrical (windows, radio, glovebox light, etc), and don't let people touch the door handles (operates the unlock solenoid)... You might try a reflash under these conditions.

•2013 Taurus SHO nonPP - All Ford factory options, 3BAR MAP, LMS v8 tune (mods for 3BAR, DPs, and T-stat), Paint & plastic correction, CQuart finest all exterior surfaces, limo black window tint,VLED Triton switchbacks, Daytime BrightLites switchback DRLs, full interior and exterior LED conversion, Lamin-X charcoal blackout tail lights and reflectors, PPE catted and coated downpipes, EBPP coated hotpipes with BoVs VTA, MDesign CAI
•2013 F250 CC Lariat 6.7EB Diesel -stock

SVTCruz

Quote from: BiGMaC on April 04, 2016, 11:39:50 AM
Quote from: SVTCruz on April 04, 2016, 11:28:00 AM
Quote from: BiGMaC on April 04, 2016, 11:02:44 AM
Have you gotten a revised tune? Have you asked your tuner? Is everything off ... Everything... When you flash the tune?

I believe the interior lights were still on while i was loading the tune. Could that be the issue?
Not sure, but for the MyCal directions say everything off, don't open doors or operate anything electrical (windows, radio, glovebox light, etc), and don't let people touch the door handles (operates the unlock solenoid)... You might try a reflash under these conditions.

Yeah ill definitley give it a try