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'13 SHO PP brakes on NON-PP?

Started by Citationdoc, March 17, 2016, 02:07:17 AM

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Citationdoc

I've picked thru this forum pretty carefully but haven't found answer so far. Can 13 PP brakes be put on a non-PP (also a '13)?  I'm looking pretty seriously at Powerstop drilled/slotted but the PP brakes seem to have strong following. Any thoughts appreciated!

Flying in the air AND on the ground!
2013 SHO Green Gem Metallic
LMS Stage 1, Windstorm CAI, 3 bar MAP, 160 TS

ZSHO

I dont think they will fit even though Ford always updates there parts,do you have a vibration when stopping at high speeds. Z 


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

SHOdded

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Caliper-to-wheel clearance issues, Z?  Probably have to have at least 20 inch OEM wheels.  May work with 19", but with a spacer?  You can get remanned calipers at the auto parts store, but make sure they give you the right product and have a solid exchange policy just in case.

Here's how to spot the right calipers (in addition to different brake pads, "the pp for 13+ also come with silicon seals and drilled pistons in the calipers for much better/higher heat tolerance. Youll know the pp's by the signature red silicone seals. "), as pic'd by mrhighcaliber ...
http://shoforum.com/index.php?threads/2013-brake-retrofit.131238/#post-1446255


I think the master cylinder and brake booster are the same across the Taurus line, so you would be spared that upgrade.

(non-PP)
BRCF-213 Front Disc Brake Caliper Police Version SHO ; SHO, Less Version Packages; LH
BRCF-212 Front Disc Brake Caliper Police Version SHO ; SHO, Less Version Packages; RH
BRCF-211 Rear Disc Brake Caliper Police Version SHO ; SHO, Less Version Packages; LH
BRCF-210 Rear Disc Brake Caliper Police Version SHO ; SHO, Less Version Packages; RH

(PP)
BRCF-209 Front Disc Brake Caliper Police Version SHO ; SHO, SHO Package 1; LH, Service Part May Differ From Production
BRCF-208 Front Disc Brake Caliper Police Version SHO ; SHO, SHO Package 1; RH, Service Part May Differ From Production
BRCF-238 Rear Disc Brake Caliper Police Version SHO ; SHO, SHO Package 1; LH
BRCF-237 Rear Disc Brake Caliper Police Version SHO ; SHO, SHO Package 1; RH

The caliper brackets, brake splash shield and brake vacuum supply manifold are also different, based purely on pricing.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

panther427

The only difference where the pads and piston inside the calipers. The rotors are the same
2013 SHO

SHOdded

More great info assembled by mrhighcaliber over on shoforum regarding PP vs non PP brakes for 2013+
https://shoforum.com/index.php?threads/2010-brake-upgrades.135961/#post-1479095

Quote13+ SHO Calipers:
• PP - Same size as Non PP
• PP - has red high temp silicon seals
• PP - has drilled pistons
• Usually noted as "Heavy Duty brakes" for both pp and non pp.
•PP - usually denoted as "Sho Pkg" or something similar, in addition to the "Heavy duty brakes" designation.
• Same size and interchangeable : PP and Non PP.

13+ SHO Booster/ MC:
• Same P/N - PP and Non PP

13+ SHO pads:
• PP - Semi Metallic
• Non PP - ceramic
• Same size and interchangeable, PP and Non PP
• Usually denoted as "Sho Pkg" or something similar, in addition to the "heavy duty brakes" designation.

13+ SHO Rotors:
• Same PP and Non PP
•Usually denoted as the "heavy duty brakes"

"Standard duty" brake designations are for 13+taurus that are NOT the SHO.

The booster, master cylinder, calipers, pads and rotors are all new for the 13+ SHO vs the 10-12 SHO. These parts can all be retro fitted to the 10-12 models.

Rockauto.com 2013+ SHO Screen Shot:

•Non pp usually says "w/o version Pkg"
•PP is "sho Pkg 1"
•Non SHO is "standard duty"

AutoZone, O'Reilly's, etc use slightly different designations.

Always Use the "54xx" in the part number as your guide. If it has "54xx" for the calipers, it is for the 13+ SHO. If it's a motorcraft part, then "brcf2xx" is the 13+ sho calipers. The br is BRake Caliper Front {BRCF} the 2 means its for heavy duty/sho. Then the other 2 numbers...I don't know. But they're different depending on the position of the caliper or if it's pp. BRCR would be brake caliper rear.

Motorcraft Rotors use a similar designation. BRake Rotor Front {BRRF} then a 2 for the heavy duty/sho. And then 2 more numbers. BRRR would be brake rotor rear.

All of this is confusing, but don't stop asking questions. The 2013+ sho brakes with semi metalic pad are to the brakes what a 3bar map and tune is for the powertrain.


2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!