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Steering Wheel Squeak 2011 SHO Non-PP

Started by peppelepugh, March 25, 2015, 10:15:20 AM

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peppelepugh

Lets play a game guys, It's called... "NAME.... THAT.... SQUEAK!!!!!"

Here is a video of it, any ideas? I'd like to have a decent idea before I take it into the dealership (if I can't fix it myself) Everything feels fine in the steering wheel, it just squeaks....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iq8sF16_4QQ

Thanks in advance guys!
2011 Kona Blue SHO non-PP: MDesign Carbon Fiber CAI, All interior lights LEDs, LED Puddles, and LED Reverse.

EBC Stage 4 Brake kit, 170* T-stat, 3-Bar MAP, NGK Plugs, PPE Catless-DPs and Tune by Torrie!

SHOdded

#1
Probably needs lithium grease in the joints exposed when the column covers are taken off.

This is from my 2007 Edge FSM:

Steering column squeak, cracks or grinds

Insufficiently lubricated steering shaft bushings
LUBRICATE the steering shaft and shaft tube seals.

Loose or misaligned steering column shrouds
TIGHTEN or ALIGN the steering column shrouds.

Steering wheel rubbing against steering column shrouds
REPOSITION the steering column shrouds.

Upper or lower bearing sleeves out of position
REPOSITION the bearing sleeves. 
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

BiGMaC

Computer speakers can modify sounds a lot... but it doesn't sound like a metalic squeak... it sounds like something plastic or rubber... not sure what to guess as far as origin based on the vid... Can you localize the sound to the top, middle . bottom, etc of the column?

•2013 Taurus SHO nonPP - All Ford factory options, 3BAR MAP, LMS v8 tune (mods for 3BAR, DPs, and T-stat), Paint & plastic correction, CQuart finest all exterior surfaces, limo black window tint,VLED Triton switchbacks, Daytime BrightLites switchback DRLs, full interior and exterior LED conversion, Lamin-X charcoal blackout tail lights and reflectors, PPE catted and coated downpipes, EBPP coated hotpipes with BoVs VTA, MDesign CAI
•2013 F250 CC Lariat 6.7EB Diesel -stock

peppelepugh

Mac, correct. it doesn't sound like a metallic squeak at all. I'd have to get up closer to it tonight.

I've also noticed this only happens when the wheel is turned anywhere to the right of center. uuuuhhhh, lemme word this better.

Set steering wheel 100% straight (so wheels are straight). Turn wheel to the left of 100% straight, there is no squeak. Turn the wheel anywhere to the right of 100% straight and it produces that squeak as seen.
2011 Kona Blue SHO non-PP: MDesign Carbon Fiber CAI, All interior lights LEDs, LED Puddles, and LED Reverse.

EBC Stage 4 Brake kit, 170* T-stat, 3-Bar MAP, NGK Plugs, PPE Catless-DPs and Tune by Torrie!

ZSHO

To me it sounds like exactly what others mentioned,lack of grease by the steering column,just grab a knife or razor blade and insert it between the steering column and it comes off real easy,by removing that maybe you can pinpoint the issue by turning the wheel,also if you can inspect it right above the brake pedal,you will see the steering shaft on top.Z.


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

crash712us

Mine does same thing. On and off. And as he said it isn't metallic in sound. My hunch is its the steering angle sensor.


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2011 tuxedo black non pp, LMS stage 5, Corsa cat back, LMS down pipes, Airaid, Alky control meth injection, Megan Racing coil overs, EBC rotor&pads, Mobsteel grill, 2013 trans cooler. 403whp 417wtq 12.25 @ 110

peppelepugh

Quote from: crash712us on March 27, 2015, 05:32:24 AM
Mine does same thing. On and off. And as he said it isn't metallic in sound. My hunch is its the steering angle sensor.


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BRINGING THIS BACK FROM THE DEAD!

I took the SHO in today to get this among a few other things looked at. Of course the car would not reproduce the issue, but I sent their service manager the video posted along with showed them all the fluid/lube on the cover under the steering column inside the cabin.

Low and behold, there was an issue. There is a bad sensor along with a broken "clunk"/"clonk" spring? (i'll have part numbers in the next day or 2 for you guys.  But apparently it is the spring that controls the lubrication for the electric power steering.  It broke, so when things get hot (nice warm sunny day) it pretty much "over lubes" they system they are saying. which lead to the steering column cover being covered.

I'll have more details as I mentioned before!
2011 Kona Blue SHO non-PP: MDesign Carbon Fiber CAI, All interior lights LEDs, LED Puddles, and LED Reverse.

EBC Stage 4 Brake kit, 170* T-stat, 3-Bar MAP, NGK Plugs, PPE Catless-DPs and Tune by Torrie!

peppelepugh

2011 Kona Blue SHO non-PP: MDesign Carbon Fiber CAI, All interior lights LEDs, LED Puddles, and LED Reverse.

EBC Stage 4 Brake kit, 170* T-stat, 3-Bar MAP, NGK Plugs, PPE Catless-DPs and Tune by Torrie!

SHOdded

2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

peppelepugh

Parts installed: 8E5Z 13K359 AA: Switch Assembly(Turn Signal Switch... I didn't even know it was broken. haha) and AG1Z 14A664A: Cover and contact plate (What It Does. An Air Bag Clockspring installs between the steering wheel and the steering column to  provide a continuous electrical connection between the two, even when the wheel is turned.)

What they were telling me was with the bad clock spring, there was overheating essentially in the steering column. Heating up the grease and causing that puddle in the pic above. 

FROM WIKI: Clock Spring - In vehicle steering systems a clock spring or clockspring is a spiral-wound special rotary electrical connector which allows a vehicle's steering wheel to turn while still making an electrical connection between the steering wheel airbag and/or the vehicle's horn and other devices and the vehicle's electrical systems. The clockspring is located between the steering wheel and the steering column.

Dealership Notes: Found grease leaking from multi function switch, removed and replaced switch, test OK.  Found clock spring rubbing and making noise, removed steering wheel removed and replaced clock spring, reinstalled steering wheel test OK test drove OK. 
2011 Kona Blue SHO non-PP: MDesign Carbon Fiber CAI, All interior lights LEDs, LED Puddles, and LED Reverse.

EBC Stage 4 Brake kit, 170* T-stat, 3-Bar MAP, NGK Plugs, PPE Catless-DPs and Tune by Torrie!

ZSHO



2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|