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Started by brewerp93, September 15, 2015, 12:39:45 AM

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brewerp93

Hey guys so I had something real interesting happen to me yesterday on my way home from work. I was just driving down the highway hopped over a lane to cruise past someone and had felt the car downshift but felt no real power, this immediately had me concerned about my turbos. I had posted a thread before about my car feeling funny at idle like some sort of hesitation, I now think this is from the turbine not spinning freely. But after feeling the lack of power I let off and listened for the BOV since I had vented them and heard nothing I decided to slowly accelerate and try to build some boost and let off to see if I could hear the whooshing sound crossed my fingers expecting the worst and sure enough the sound came. This had me confused but still worried so I babied it for the rest of the commute, after getting off of the highway I obviously had to accelerate but still wanted to be gentle with it. I began to accelerate and sure enough I could feel it again I just wasn't getting any sort of power at all. I proceeded to baby it home since I was so close now and just as I began pulling up to my road I could hear the turbine rattling around. My heart sunk, I called up a tow truck and had it taken to the dealership this morning luckily bought extended warranty with it and they called me back and said that they have 2 new turbos on order right now and are not sure what all else may be wrong with it just yet but they knew that the turbos were no longer functional.

FoMoCoSHO

Sounds just like when a tech forgot to clamp my CAC pipe.

I had a NA SHO and I didn't like it. lol....

BiGMaC

Bummer on part one... Not bad! On part 2

Please tell us about your car... Year, mileage, fuel additive use, tuning etc.  do you check for codes or datalog? If so have you seen any codes, especially under or overboost?

Maybe Ford policy to replace both turbos if one goes.... Dunnp, but wer both of them failed... Seems a bit unusual for simultaneous f allure.

•2013 Taurus SHO nonPP - All Ford factory options, 3BAR MAP, LMS v8 tune (mods for 3BAR, DPs, and T-stat), Paint & plastic correction, CQuart finest all exterior surfaces, limo black window tint,VLED Triton switchbacks, Daytime BrightLites switchback DRLs, full interior and exterior LED conversion, Lamin-X charcoal blackout tail lights and reflectors, PPE catted and coated downpipes, EBPP coated hotpipes with BoVs VTA, MDesign CAI
•2013 F250 CC Lariat 6.7EB Diesel -stock

SHOdded

Bad experience for sure ... but YAY for the extended warranty!  Glad they're taking care of ya :)  I'd find out from them though if they have pics of the turbos and why they think they failed.  The parts won't be returned to you (being warranty work).  Did they check the valves for carbon?  If the problem is upstream, that'd be good to know!
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

66 Galaxie

Glad warranty is covering it.  Question, did dealer comment on your car being VTA?
'14 Flex Tuxedo Black ecoboost

ZSHO

I wonder if being VTA could of escalated the situation in both turbo's being faulty simultaneously.  Z


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

ZSHO

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It also sounds like you were in overboost condition which there are various causes for that,but you might have a PO-234 stored,(turbocharger a overboost condition) hopefully they will resolve your issues quickly.  Z


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

Frozen Taurus

2011 Tuxedo Black SHO non PP, K&N drop in, TCE Big Brake Kit, Megan Racing Coilovers
My other car is a 447 awhp Talon

14SHOCAR

This is EXACTLY what it felt like when this happened:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrhBu5XtafU

I would suggest you ask the dealership to watch the video and look at the clamp. The waste gates are opening because the hose fell off. Hence why you feel no boost.
18 Volvo S90 Inscription - 2.0T Twin Charged - Polestar Tuned.
17 Lincoln MKZ 3.0T GTDI -To Tune, or Not To Tune -- THAT is the question.
15 Road Glide Special - CFR Exhaust, Powder Coated everything, DirtyAir Air ride
14 Taurus SHO (Sold)
LMS 93 V8 3Bar Tune, K&N Intake, LMS 160 t-stat, LMS pre-gapped plugs, Corsa Exhaust

brewerp93

Yeah the NA Taurus is a lot less fun lol, but I just got it in there yesterday morning so I have not figured much out just yet. As for my car right now it is all stock I didn't want to void my warranty by doing anything real crazy yet and lucky I didn't. I run 93 Octane from the pump no additives. And what would under/overboost codes cause? but no I have not checked for any I am still new to turbos. I am at 71xxx miles right now I am covered up to 125000. Also with the VTA I threw the recirc hoses back on before taking it in because I didn't want to have any issues with it. When that hose fell off could you hear something metal on metal and my car was burning oil extremely bad when I turned it on before taking it in. I am not sure if it was both turbos the rep told me they had ordered 2 of them but after it was smoking it was coming out of the exhaust but only on one side the other had no smoke coming out at all.

14SHOCAR

The smoke is indicative of the turbo seals. Those commonly go on these cars.
18 Volvo S90 Inscription - 2.0T Twin Charged - Polestar Tuned.
17 Lincoln MKZ 3.0T GTDI -To Tune, or Not To Tune -- THAT is the question.
15 Road Glide Special - CFR Exhaust, Powder Coated everything, DirtyAir Air ride
14 Taurus SHO (Sold)
LMS 93 V8 3Bar Tune, K&N Intake, LMS 160 t-stat, LMS pre-gapped plugs, Corsa Exhaust

brewerp93

Yeah the smoke wasn't my biggest concern it was all white so it was just burning some oil, but the metal on metal noise is what had me worrying. I plan to try to get a hold of them and see what they found out about it, I am always going back and bugging them to see what they found out. Lucky for me I have a buddy from school that works up there unfortunately not on my car this time, but am going to try to see if I can get him to keep sending me updates on it and hopefully we can get some pictures of the turbos after they pull them because I am real interested in what those look like and I assume you guys would like to as well.

brewerp93

Quote from: 14SHOCAR on September 15, 2015, 12:58:13 PM
This is EXACTLY what it felt like when this happened:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrhBu5XtafU

I would suggest you ask the dealership to watch the video and look at the clamp. The waste gates are opening because the hose fell off. Hence why you feel no boost.
And thank you for this video that is actually exactly what was happening to my car at times I never noticed if that hose was lose or off, and am sad that I can't check it now without the vehicle but I had the same fluctuation of rpms not as much as his did but a similar scenario and then the BOV's would sometimes vent at separate times as well.