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Ford 3.5 Ecoboost Application for Certification

Started by FoMoCoSHO, June 10, 2015, 10:58:34 PM

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FoMoCoSHO

June 10, 2015, 10:58:34 PM
http://www.epa.gov/otaq/datafiles/FOI_FFMXV03.5VEP_APP_UPD_R00.PDF

So I was researching our fuel pump and came across this.

Lots of interesting changes including....

Injector O rings upgraded to handle methanol...

The upgraded cam cover pcv assembly...

They changed the pump voltage max to enhance fuel pressure out of the HPFP...(funny story last night I got a wild hair and went for an hour drive after I added 4 gallons of corn to the 1.5 of E30 in my tank. )

Intercepter PTU added code to increase prime time from 10sec to 12 sec...

It's a long document but it has lots of cool info, calibrations, curb weights, loaded weights, etc.

Enjoy


FoMoCoSHO

#1
June 10, 2015, 11:09:42 PM
Calibration change...

"Set parameter "Fuel_type_pri"  = 1 for gas, single fuel"

Huh, wonder what the other options are?

SHOdded

#2
June 11, 2015, 05:14:41 AM Last Edit: June 11, 2015, 05:30:19 AM by SHOdded
Nice find, FoMoCoSHO, interesting reading ...  Particularly, for me, pg 77 and 82+.  Those looking for updated part numbers will enjoy pg 88.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

SHOdded

#3
June 11, 2015, 09:09:49 AM Last Edit: June 11, 2015, 09:14:05 AM by SHOdded
Title: Application for FORD MOTOR COMPANY 2013 model year test group DFMXV03.5VEP (Update)
Abstract: This test group contains a 3.5 liter engine certified to Federal Tier 2 Bin 5 standards. List of vehicle divisions and models: FORD DIVISION: EXPLORER AWD, FLEX AWD, TAURUS AWD, TAURUS POLICE AWD LINCOLN TRUCK: MKS AWD, MKT AWD, FORD DIVISION: FLEX AWD, TAURUS AWD LINCOLN TRUCK: MKS AWD, MKT AWD
Document Date: 07/18/2012   
Compliance Document Type: Applications

PDF
http://iaspub.epa.gov/otaqpub/display_file.jsp?docid=29137&flag=1
RELATED DOCUMENTS
http://iaspub.epa.gov/otaqpub/publist1.jsp#

Additional searches can be done from this page:
http://iaspub.epa.gov/otaqpub/
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

J-Will

#4
June 11, 2015, 03:04:16 PM
I am curious:
because this is an application, was it approved?
how far can Ford deviate from the application during actual production?
2014 Factory Order SHO (non pp) Deep Impact Blue
Gearhead Automotive Performance Tune
3-bar
SP-542 plugs w/ GH gap

ecoboostsho

#5
June 12, 2015, 09:06:18 AM
Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on June 10, 2015, 10:58:34 PM
http://www.epa.gov/otaq/datafiles/FOI_FFMXV03.5VEP_APP_UPD_R00.PDF


They changed the pump voltage max to enhance fuel pressure out of the HPFP...(funny story last night I got a wild hair and went for an hour drive after I added 4 gallons of corn to the 1.5 of E30 in my tank. )


Great stuff!  Thanks for sharing.  I'm wondering what voltage they are talking about though in relation to the high pressure fuel pump as it is mechanical and the maximum pressure would be determined by that not a raised voltage?  The ECU signal just controls the valve that regulates the pressure but that wouldn't allow for higher pressures...strange.
2013 White SHO w/PP, Gearhead Tuned, 3 Bar, 160T, Plugs...Mess with the Bull and you'll get the Horn. :)
Previous 2011 Tuxedo Black SHO w/PP - 12.89 1/4 Mile

SHOdded

#6
June 12, 2015, 09:24:45 AM Last Edit: June 12, 2015, 09:29:45 AM by SHOdded
Probably trying to get more volume out of the LPFP so the HPFP and injectors are fed adequately.  Isn't that what the Boost A Pump mod does?
http://www.kennebell.net/KBWebsite/Accessories_pg/Boost%20A%20Pump/layouts/boostapump.htm
Principles of operation:
http://www.kennebell.net/KBWebsite/Common/pdfs/BAPtheory_kens.pdf
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

FoMoCoSHO

#7
August 31, 2015, 07:53:05 PM
Quote from: ecoboostsho on June 12, 2015, 09:06:18 AM
Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on June 10, 2015, 10:58:34 PM
http://www.epa.gov/otaq/datafiles/FOI_FFMXV03.5VEP_APP_UPD_R00.PDF


They changed the pump voltage max to enhance fuel pressure out of the HPFP...(funny story last night I got a wild hair and went for an hour drive after I added 4 gallons of corn to the 1.5 of E30 in my tank. )


Great stuff!  Thanks for sharing.  I'm wondering what voltage they are talking about though in relation to the high pressure fuel pump as it is mechanical and the maximum pressure would be determined by that not a raised voltage?  The ECU signal just controls the valve that regulates the pressure but that wouldn't allow for higher pressures...strange.
Unless through programming the fuel pump is artificially held below its mechanical limits (it is) and what the cam lobe will allow.

Our pump is good for 3k PSI, Ford locked it down to 2150

"The HDP 5 has an integrated demand
control for metering
the amount of fuel
supplied into the high pressure fuel
system and an overpressure relief valve to
limit the maximum fuel pressure"



FoMoCoSHO

#8
August 31, 2015, 07:57:12 PM
Drat!

Page is gone...

SHOdded

#9
August 31, 2015, 10:13:33 PM
I did attach the PDF earlier in this thread
http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,4873.msg77567.html#msg77567

so info's still there, I think?
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

FoMoCoSHO

#11
August 31, 2015, 10:24:14 PM Last Edit: August 31, 2015, 10:26:37 PM by FoMoCoSHO
Start page for all Ford vehicles starting with 2016

http://iaspub.epa.gov/otaqpub/publist1.jsp?page=1

Nope, the link goes to main search, just select Ford Motor Company and all under docs and they will come right up starting with 2016

AJP turbo

#12
September 01, 2015, 08:37:21 AM
What is the purpose of this s application?
SCT Dealer/Custom Calibrator                        
Specializing in 3.5 Ecoboost   
Remote/email custom tuning including E85 blends 
Authorized retailer for all SCT devices. 
 
Former:2014 PP SHO
3 bar 93 tune, Airaid, Stainless Works non catted DP's  
405whp/520tq
Dyno
     
Current:2016 F150 2.7 Ecoboost
Tuning in progress

SHOdded

#13
September 01, 2015, 09:04:51 AM
Since it's an EPA document, my guess would be primarily emissions related, which nowadays covers a VAST variety of equipment.  So that gives us insight into parts, part numbers, even specs sometimes.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

bamsho

#14
September 01, 2015, 03:01:32 PM
If I remember correctly from the Q&A with the Chicago Assembly powertrain tech, is the F150 with the EB motor is able to run on E85.  They said the reason for the SHO isn't is just enough volume to justify the resources to do since out production numbers are low compared to the F150.  That might be what you are seeing.
2013 white Gen 5.  Gearhead Intercooler, Turbosmart wastegate actuators, Alky Controls meth kit, Livernois catted downpipes,  Livernois Corsa cat back black etched tips.  2016 True Street Champion.
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