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New TSB for 3.5 GDI Sartup Rattle 15-0131

Started by BiGMaC, September 05, 2015, 10:19:59 AM

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FoMoCoSHO


SHOdded

The url changed for his site I think
http://motorcitysynthetics.myamsoil.com

Was getting a dns error before.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

68_GT

nice thanks.

are we talking about OE, XL, or signature series 5w-30 ?
2013 PP SHO LMS 93V10 tune, 170* T stat, 3bar, K&N drop in, plugs re-gapped, 4in exhaust tips.
UPDATE - 130K miles =blown engine. Unleashed tune and EBPP upgrade turbo billet wheels / Turbo Smart WGA's on a bran new long block. Let's get this SHO on the road !

2013 Fusion Titanium 2.0 EB daily driver ;) - LMS 93 tune and CPE intercooler

ZSHO

#78
I guess for a Few bucks more you get the [Cream of the Crop] Signature Series.  Z   :ok:


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

68_GT

understandable as long as that's the oil that might help clear my oil passages to eliminate / reduce my timing chain rattle on start up and my engine light coming on and off due to cam phasers and reduced timing / performance.
2013 PP SHO LMS 93V10 tune, 170* T stat, 3bar, K&N drop in, plugs re-gapped, 4in exhaust tips.
UPDATE - 130K miles =blown engine. Unleashed tune and EBPP upgrade turbo billet wheels / Turbo Smart WGA's on a bran new long block. Let's get this SHO on the road !

2013 Fusion Titanium 2.0 EB daily driver ;) - LMS 93 tune and CPE intercooler

ZSHO

#80
Quote from: 68_GT on April 28, 2016, 10:28:40 PM
understandable as long as that's the oil that might help clear my oil passages to eliminate / reduce my timing chain rattle on start up and my engine light coming on and off due to cam phasers and reduced timing / performance.
If you just changed your oil recently wait roughly 500 miles and change your oil again over to the Signature series,its almost like a Motor flush which IMHO should be performed at least twice a year especially if your having issues and should hopefully help out cleaning the passage/phasers in the long run.  Z


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

TX MKS-T

With 36k on the clock I have the obvious rattle on startups and yesterday I changed from Mobil One EP5w20 and EP filter over to Motorcraft FL500s filter and Amsoil Signature 5w20 oil. I could tell immediately there was a noise drop on startup right after change.

This morning when starting car it was quiet. I'm hoping this a solution as it seems to be working so far.
2010 MKS-T * K&N Drop In/Power Stop Rotors
2007 Tundra TRD 5.7 - The Toy Hauler
2014 Mitsu Outlander - Kid Hauler

BiGMaC

#82
Yea... Love Amsoil (for my '13 use Signature 5w30)... And FMC filter... So far all is good at 29k miles.

•2013 Taurus SHO nonPP - All Ford factory options, 3BAR MAP, LMS v8 tune (mods for 3BAR, DPs, and T-stat), Paint & plastic correction, CQuart finest all exterior surfaces, limo black window tint,VLED Triton switchbacks, Daytime BrightLites switchback DRLs, full interior and exterior LED conversion, Lamin-X charcoal blackout tail lights and reflectors, PPE catted and coated downpipes, EBPP coated hotpipes with BoVs VTA, MDesign CAI
•2013 F250 CC Lariat 6.7EB Diesel -stock

ZSHO

Quote from: TX MKS-T on May 08, 2016, 11:05:47 AM
With 36k on the clock I have the obvious rattle on startups and yesterday I changed from Mobil One EP5w20 and EP filter over to Motorcraft FL500s filter and Amsoil Signature 5w20 oil. I could tell immediately there was a noise drop on startup right after change.

This morning when starting car it was quiet. I'm hoping this a solution as it seems to be working so far.
Perfect combo,especially the MC Filter.  Z


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|

AJP turbo

I think the motorcraft filter is garbage...ford sent that out to the cheapest bidder

Amsoil was concerned with statistical performance of their filters....i would prefer all things oil related to be amsoil
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SHOdded

Not many comparisons that include Amsoil oil filters out there, AJP,  their official flow characteristics seem a little "muted" compared to competitors in the market.  I don't think MC filters are garbage at all, but can you get better, or ones that can filter for longer, sure!  As to the cheapest bidder, I wouldn't be surprised :) but the filters are quite heavy for their size.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

FoMoCoSHO

#86
Ford Racing filter specs attached, and look pretty good.

I've read repeatedly that its the same as a normal motorcraft with a stouter case and that they are all rebadged Purolator Pure Ones.

Since I have startup noise I'm going to swap out my filter and see if it changes.

https://performanceparts.ford.com/part/CM-6731-FL820






68_GT

Now my engine light pretty much stays on. I need to get my car registered but have to get it inspected first 👎🏼
2013 PP SHO LMS 93V10 tune, 170* T stat, 3bar, K&N drop in, plugs re-gapped, 4in exhaust tips.
UPDATE - 130K miles =blown engine. Unleashed tune and EBPP upgrade turbo billet wheels / Turbo Smart WGA's on a bran new long block. Let's get this SHO on the road !

2013 Fusion Titanium 2.0 EB daily driver ;) - LMS 93 tune and CPE intercooler

SHOdded

What codes is the pcm showing now?  P0016 or ...?
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

68_GT

Actually I have three according to my tuner device. Strange the engine light goes off and on....

P0016

P0299

C1001

2013 PP SHO LMS 93V10 tune, 170* T stat, 3bar, K&N drop in, plugs re-gapped, 4in exhaust tips.
UPDATE - 130K miles =blown engine. Unleashed tune and EBPP upgrade turbo billet wheels / Turbo Smart WGA's on a bran new long block. Let's get this SHO on the road !

2013 Fusion Titanium 2.0 EB daily driver ;) - LMS 93 tune and CPE intercooler