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Started by RagingPenguin, August 27, 2015, 09:22:48 PM

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SHOdded

#90
No, Bank 1 is firewall side, Bank 2 is radiator side of the engine.  The cylinders (as you sweep from passengerside to driverside) are numbered 1,2,3 on Bank 1 and 4,5,6 on Bank 2.

As far as "Bank" notation, imagine the engine rotated 90 degrees anti-clockwise from where it sits now.  That is how it would sit in the F150.  Traditionally, engines sat this way in automobiles before the advent of FWD.  The "left" bank is Bank 1, the "right" bank is Bank 2.

P0130 - Bank 1, O2 Sensor 1
P0140 - Bank 1, O2 Sensor 2
P0150 - Bank 2, O2 Sensor 1
P0160 - Bank 2, O2 Sensor 2
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

RagingPenguin

Quote from: SHOdded on September 23, 2015, 07:15:57 PM
No, Bank 1 is firewall side, Bank 2 is radiator side of the engine.  The cylinders (as you sweep from passengerside to driverside) are numbered 1,2,3 on Bank 1 and 4,5,6 on Bank 2.

As far as "Bank" notation, imagine the engine rotated 90 degrees anti-clockwise from where it sits now.  That is how it would sit in the F150.  Traditionally, engines sat this way in automobiles before the advent of FWD.  The "left" bank is Bank 1, the "right" bank is Bank 2.
Yup your right. Had the code location correct but explanation wrong
Also when I went to check code again it's gone.
Only time this code appears is after a few WOT pulls and I never get a CEL from it. Always a stored code

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RagingPenguin

Quote from: ajpturbo on September 23, 2015, 06:59:24 PM
No idea....but make sure u are changing the correct sensor that the code was referring to

And are you sure u got a sensor for the front near the turbo?..did u get a motorcraft sensor?
Yup. Upstream motorcraft sensor. 230$. Down streams were half as much.
8F9Z 9F472 B

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AJP turbo

Quote from: RagingPenguin on September 23, 2015, 07:26:37 PM
Quote from: ajpturbo on September 23, 2015, 06:59:24 PM
No idea....but make sure u are changing the correct sensor that the code was referring to

And are you sure u got a sensor for the front near the turbo?..did u get a motorcraft sensor?
Yup. Upstream motorcraft sensor. 230$. Down streams were half as much.
8F9Z 9F472 B

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Ah thats a good lad....ur car will thank u....im sure other brands are ok but its good for the 2 primary sensors to match. They are scaled for lambda vs voltage and report to the ecu small voltage variations between brands could have an effect...not that motorcraft is the best for parts all the time but i think motorcraft uses ntk sensors which are top of the line...but u probaly overpaid
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RagingPenguin

Quote from: ajpturbo on September 23, 2015, 07:44:25 PM

Ah thats a good lad....ur car will thank u....im sure other brands are ok but its good for the 2 primary sensors to match. They are scaled for lambda vs voltage and report to the ecu small voltage variations between brands could have an effect...not that motorcraft is the best for parts all the time but i think motorcraft uses ntk sensors which are top of the line...but u probaly overpaid
Canada... Exchange rate is killing me. My last order (950) came out to be 1300. Ouch

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RagingPenguin

#95
Saw somewhere in here that misfires can damage the cats. Just thinking out loud but is there any chance that when that piston blew up it ruined them?

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No change with cleaned sensors and new O2. No new code and couldn't get it to come back

https://youtu.be/Ho2vsGLMJ58
Under hood clip. 1.35 1.38.

Good news is you can hear the noise. Better news man those turbos sound SO good.



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SHOdded

#97
Very clean audio capture.  Though the sound you mention is more of a ratcheting sound to me?  Like a cable shift in a manual trans or a manual throttle body/plate might make.  Doesn't sound like the engine/trans itself moving around on the mounts.

Here's another guy wondering if his SHO sounds "normal":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yk4cgvWw7Qc

Sound not as clear on this new SHO review, but take a gander:
https://youtu.be/BE2eTj3Bm2g?t=5m17s
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

RagingPenguin

Sounds a bit different in car. Guys that I know don't think motor.
One had suggested something in driveline being unbalanced.




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Went out with three phones and tried several areas under hood,
First posted video was captured from battery

Put a phone up on rad support, noise was very quiet there, had another strapped to coolant tank, same thing, just heard it there.

Strapped phone down low on cross member by the turbo. Noise was audible there.

Starting to suspect something in transmission/ driveline noise.
https://youtu.be/opThjjuDnOU

1.07 Rolling accel
2.27... shoulder.. don't panic
2.50 1-2 2-3 pull
3.35  1-2 2-3 pull

Anyone else have any ideas?



RagingPenguin

#100
Listened to my gut. Threw stage 4 on it. Going to install my 3 bar and thermostat this weekend and re gap plugs and use the 4+

Sound is gone. Car pulls like a train. Sounds meaner. Runs better




SHOdded

There ya go!  Work through the pain :)
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

AJP turbo

Crazy how ford's calibration is causing noises
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3 bar 93 tune, Airaid, Stainless Works non catted DP's  
405whp/520tq
Dyno
     
Current:2016 F150 2.7 Ecoboost
Tuning in progress

RagingPenguin

Quote from: ajpturbo on October 02, 2015, 09:13:49 PM
Crazy how ford's calibration is causing noises
I'm wondering if they are using out dated data. Or have no clue what they are doing here.  It's impossible to find a good dealer here that KNOWS these cars. They know of them. They know they sell them. But its a common thing that they can't fix them.

It was a long shot but seems to be the cure.
Couldn't make it happen. Steep hills. Brake boosted 0-100
I went out and genuinely beat on it and nothing.
I'm ok with that though!


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AJP turbo

I was being sarcastic...u have something else wrong...just coincidence now that u arent hearing it
SCT Dealer/Custom Calibrator                        
Specializing in 3.5 Ecoboost   
Remote/email custom tuning including E85 blends 
Authorized retailer for all SCT devices. 
 
Former:2014 PP SHO
3 bar 93 tune, Airaid, Stainless Works non catted DP's  
405whp/520tq
Dyno
     
Current:2016 F150 2.7 Ecoboost
Tuning in progress