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Has anyone upgraded their trans cooler?

Started by Gray Brick, August 11, 2015, 01:04:56 AM

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AJP turbo

You have a tranny cooler in your radiator. But it sounds like no matter what anyone tells you, you are going to want it to be cooler....Honestly, as long as you aren't exceeding the designed specifications, which it sounds like you are not, then I wouldn't worry about it.

You said you were about 205 at the highest...Well that's what your coolant is give or take so that makes complete sense. It sounds like you are right were ford wanted it...You plan on road racing that brick?
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I agree that a high of 205 is not anything to panic about and would just do drain and fills every 30k miles or so.

For reference,the tranny cooler is actually the top section of the a/c condenser in front of the radiator on Flex, Taurus, Explorer, Edge, and their Lincoln counterparts.

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SHOdded

Ford's specs are designed for vehicles that are unmodified.  The more stress you put on the engine/powertrain, the more revisions you should expect to those specs.  205F for the trans fluid may be nothing to worry about IF that consists of a few spikes here & there (such as going WOT, being stuck in slowmoving traffic occasionally, etc) and temps generally stay in the 180-190F range otherwise.  Since there is no cooling of the PTU in most instances, the less the heat transfer from the trans, the better, an indirect benefit.  Obviously Ford knows the benefits (they don't tell us all their secrets ;) ), otherwise why would the PP exist?  They have top-notch engineers.  But what engineers can design and what they are allowed to design are hardly ever the same thing in a corporate context.

As far as coolant temps, ask Torrie why he recommends the 170F TStat for "hot" tunes, or LME why they recommend the even colder 160F TStat.  Ask them what they see for normal cruising temps vs spikes.

We WANT the additive packages in the fluids to last as long as possible, no matter the interval we choose to R&R.  The SAE specs used by mfr's seems like the USDA RDA for food.  Minimum required to survive.  But if you are an athlete, that RDA is nowhere near what you require to "survive".  On top of that, you are going to pad your chances of survival by making sure your body is stocked as well as possible.
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If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

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Matt H.
2013 SHO Performance Pack, Daily, AJPTurbo tuned
2003 SVT Cobra 497rwhp/491rwtq, Self tuned, Cruiser
1990 Mustang GT 570rwhp/530twtq, Self tuned, Open Track
2017 F150 XLT 5.0


ShoBoat

Just my 2 cents my 13 PP never goes over 95C (203 ish) even after repeated track runs around town it's always around 75C to 80C (175 ish) PTU is usually 10 degrees cooler than that other than at the track which is on par with trans temp.


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BiGMaC

Quote from: ShoBoat on September 09, 2015, 01:27:40 PM
Just my 2 cents my 13 PP never goes over 95C (203 ish) even after repeated track runs around town it's always around 75C to 80C (175 ish) PTU is usually 10 degrees cooler than that other than at the track which is on par with trans temp.
True for me in winter, but not in PHX summers with ambients over the road approaching 130.

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Gray Brick

If I didn't have the aux transmission cooler in my other cars they would not have lasted so long.

It is amazing how quickly a quarter mile pass will heat up the fluid.
2013 Ecoboost Ford Flex
AJP Tune (ATP+2) in progress , Livernois HPFP, 3 Bar MAP, UPR Catch Can, 100% Methanol w/ braided steel lines, 3" Downpipes -->2.5" X-pipe --> 2.5" Magnaflow exhaust, 2.5" air inlets to each turbo with cone filter, Custom water to air intercooler with chiller
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---12.419ET/112.43MPH @ 5150 lbs in the 1/4---

ShoBoat

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Quote from: BiGMaC on September 09, 2015, 03:42:45 PM
Quote from: ShoBoat on September 09, 2015, 01:27:40 PM
Just my 2 cents my 13 PP never goes over 95C (203 ish) even after repeated track runs around town it's always around 75C to 80C (175 ish) PTU is usually 10 degrees cooler than that other than at the track which is on par with trans temp.
True for me in winter, but not in PHX summers with ambients over the road approaching 130.

Lol your winter is my summer up here. We had a heat wave for the last 2 weeks and temps were only 40C (like 105F) with the humidity lol!


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2012 Pearl White CTS-V Stock
2016 Fusion Titanium 2.0 EB Stock
2013 SHO Black on Black (Gone) PP, Unleashed Custom Tune, 170 TStat, SP534 Plugs, 3 Bar, Airaid Intake, PPE catted downpipes, Corsa Cat-back, H&R Springs. Focal 165KR Front Stage,2 JL W6 10 with Focal 800.1. 12.62 @ 110 mph.

Gray Brick

Does anyone know the part number for the lower temp transmission thermostat they run in the police interceptors?

2013 Ecoboost Ford Flex
AJP Tune (ATP+2) in progress , Livernois HPFP, 3 Bar MAP, UPR Catch Can, 100% Methanol w/ braided steel lines, 3" Downpipes -->2.5" X-pipe --> 2.5" Magnaflow exhaust, 2.5" air inlets to each turbo with cone filter, Custom water to air intercooler with chiller
275/40-20 Front 315/35-20 Rear Tires
---12.419ET/112.43MPH @ 5150 lbs in the 1/4---

AJP turbo

Quote from: Gray Brick on December 13, 2015, 02:58:57 AM
Does anyone know the part number for the lower temp transmission thermostat they run in the police interceptors?

I imagine its the same as the 13+ PP
SCT Dealer/Custom Calibrator                        
Specializing in 3.5 Ecoboost   
Remote/email custom tuning including E85 blends 
Authorized retailer for all SCT devices. 
 
Former:2014 PP SHO
3 bar 93 tune, Airaid, Stainless Works non catted DP's  
405whp/520tq
Dyno
     
Current:2016 F150 2.7 Ecoboost
Tuning in progress

Gray Brick

Does anyone have a VIN to share with me that has the PP package with the factory trans cooler?

2013 Ecoboost Ford Flex
AJP Tune (ATP+2) in progress , Livernois HPFP, 3 Bar MAP, UPR Catch Can, 100% Methanol w/ braided steel lines, 3" Downpipes -->2.5" X-pipe --> 2.5" Magnaflow exhaust, 2.5" air inlets to each turbo with cone filter, Custom water to air intercooler with chiller
275/40-20 Front 315/35-20 Rear Tires
---12.419ET/112.43MPH @ 5150 lbs in the 1/4---

SHOdded

Here's one, culled from the great cesspool called EBay:  1FAHP2KT3FG205979.  Or try this:  1FAHP2KT4DG177137
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If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

Gray Brick

I will visit the dealer to see if they have different part numbers and what is available.
2013 Ecoboost Ford Flex
AJP Tune (ATP+2) in progress , Livernois HPFP, 3 Bar MAP, UPR Catch Can, 100% Methanol w/ braided steel lines, 3" Downpipes -->2.5" X-pipe --> 2.5" Magnaflow exhaust, 2.5" air inlets to each turbo with cone filter, Custom water to air intercooler with chiller
275/40-20 Front 315/35-20 Rear Tires
---12.419ET/112.43MPH @ 5150 lbs in the 1/4---