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MDesign Cold Air Installed

Started by dfwSHO, August 02, 2015, 05:52:16 PM

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shotime99

#15
August 04, 2015, 06:17:23 PM
ya. I have the battery in the trunk now. .was easier to mount there than trying to build a case up front for it.
2014 Taurus SHO w/PP and H & R spring kit

Darren M

#16
August 17, 2015, 12:08:30 PM
Quote from: BiGMaC on August 02, 2015, 11:55:33 PM
Whether an extra 3.75cm of wire offers enough resistance to affect current flow in such a way to change the sensor input is doubtful in my mind...

Depending upon the gauge of the wire, the resistance across that short of a span is negligible. The calculations I've run at 14 gauge across 3.75cm is 0 ohms (Ω) with some resistance down past a milli-Ω. I admit I do not know the Ford sampling details but I doubt it is into the milli-Ω.

While I'm at it, 14 gauge does show .001Ω at 4 inches.

As resistance is just a small part of a bigger equation, reference Ohm's Law for more.

Just my 2¢.
Just a Taurus

BiGMaC

#17
August 17, 2015, 01:08:27 PM
Good point Darren!  Of course the number of strands is anothe confounding factor since the electrons move on the surface of conductors.

•2013 Taurus SHO nonPP - All Ford factory options, 3BAR MAP, LMS v8 tune (mods for 3BAR, DPs, and T-stat), Paint & plastic correction, CQuart finest all exterior surfaces, limo black window tint,VLED Triton switchbacks, Daytime BrightLites switchback DRLs, full interior and exterior LED conversion, Lamin-X charcoal blackout tail lights and reflectors, PPE catted and coated downpipes, EBPP coated hotpipes with BoVs VTA, MDesign CAI
•2013 F250 CC Lariat 6.7EB Diesel -stock

USMCSHO341

#18
August 17, 2015, 01:26:54 PM
I want one of these so bad ::)

mval

#19
August 17, 2015, 03:46:44 PM
well if you just want to make the new open ugly engine bay area nicer looking as i did, as show my sho & at present have no interest in meth, found an inexpensive answer. turn the top of the oem box box over. will fit fairly snugly  into room & the area of the top of box is exactly the size of a license plate, so can use what ever you want .here's what I chose and no pointed deducted at shows.
'10 lme 4+93, 160t, 3 bar, w/cust headrest & evo gauge pod,md design cai, ppe dpes, borla cback , vertini 20" cust wheels w/conti dws, ebc slotted rotors w/red pads & mgp caliper covers, viper remote start, cust dipped eng cover,fascia, cai & lids,decals, custom bra, black wrapped spoiler
2017 chally scat pack shaker yellow jacket dd, so sho can be a show queen

dfwSHO

#20
August 17, 2015, 04:19:17 PM
Nicely done.  might not be a bad way to turn the stock airbag into a container.  Looks good.
--dfwSHO
2014 Tuxedo Black non-PP
MDesign Cold Air
More to Come...

Excalibur

#21
October 12, 2015, 04:28:45 PM
Have there been reports of water ingestion in snowy climates with this intake?
2013 PP SHO; k&n drop-in, 3bar, unleashed tune.

FoMoCoSHO

#22
October 12, 2015, 05:34:50 PM
Quote from: Excalibur on October 12, 2015, 04:28:45 PM
Have there been reports of water ingestion in snowy climates with this intake?
It uses the stock intake opening so I'd say it is fine.

BiGMaC

#23
October 13, 2015, 12:09:00 AM
Quote from: FoMoCoSHO on October 12, 2015, 05:34:50 PM
Quote from: Excalibur on October 12, 2015, 04:28:45 PM
Have there been reports of water ingestion in snowy climates with this intake?
It uses the stock intake opening so I'd say it is fine.
I have heard none. I've had no problem in a year or so... Several torrential downpours during AZ monsoon rains and no problems in mountain snow.

•2013 Taurus SHO nonPP - All Ford factory options, 3BAR MAP, LMS v8 tune (mods for 3BAR, DPs, and T-stat), Paint & plastic correction, CQuart finest all exterior surfaces, limo black window tint,VLED Triton switchbacks, Daytime BrightLites switchback DRLs, full interior and exterior LED conversion, Lamin-X charcoal blackout tail lights and reflectors, PPE catted and coated downpipes, EBPP coated hotpipes with BoVs VTA, MDesign CAI
•2013 F250 CC Lariat 6.7EB Diesel -stock

A 01 Badger

#24
October 30, 2015, 05:47:18 PM
Ordered my M Design today, should be here by Tuesday and hopefully installed by next weekend.  Do I need an updated tune from LMS?  I am running the 93 3bar tune.

If all goes well, I will be ordering another for my wife's XSport.  If there was some type of discount for buying 2 I would have ordered them both today.
Sold - 2013 SHO w/ PP LMS 93 Tune, 3 Bar, NGK Iridium Plugs, MDesign CAI,  30% tint

2018 XSport - AJP Turbo tune, Steeda Rear Sway Bar and Rear Trailing Arms

2011 Audi S4 mt6 - EPL Stage 2 tune, Injen intake, EPL supercharger pulley, RDX Billet trans mount, ECS sub frame inserts, JXB Performance Short Throw shift kit.

SHOdded

#25
October 30, 2015, 06:18:27 PM
No need for tune update, the PCM is quite capable of handling any airflow changes.  Downpipes benefit from a tune update however; the PCM stock doesn't really account for their flow characteristics, and the tune takes advantage of the earlier torque availability.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

A 01 Badger

#26
November 01, 2015, 07:04:33 PM
Quote from: SHOdded on October 30, 2015, 06:18:27 PM
No need for tune update, the PCM is quite capable of handling any airflow changes.  Downpipes benefit from a tune update however; the PCM stock doesn't really account for their flow characteristics, and the tune takes advantage of the earlier torque availability.

Thanks SHOdded.

Downpipes are next.  Was planning on waiting until my next emissions test.  Give myself two years with the mod then decide how to handle it then.
Sold - 2013 SHO w/ PP LMS 93 Tune, 3 Bar, NGK Iridium Plugs, MDesign CAI,  30% tint

2018 XSport - AJP Turbo tune, Steeda Rear Sway Bar and Rear Trailing Arms

2011 Audi S4 mt6 - EPL Stage 2 tune, Injen intake, EPL supercharger pulley, RDX Billet trans mount, ECS sub frame inserts, JXB Performance Short Throw shift kit.

vernonator

#27
November 02, 2015, 07:15:23 AM
Quote from: SHOdded on October 30, 2015, 06:18:27 PM
No need for tune update, the PCM is quite capable of handling any airflow changes.  Downpipes benefit from a tune update however; the PCM stock doesn't really account for their flow characteristics, and the tune takes advantage of the earlier torque availability.

Has anyone dyno'd this CAI? Does it add anything or is it just for show like all the others?
2012 Tuxedo Black SHO w/PP. Livernois Stage 4+, PPE Catless DP's, EBC Stage 4 Front/Rear Brakes
2015 Tuxedo Black Explorer Sport 401A, no mods....YET :)

BiGMaC

#28
November 02, 2015, 09:14:05 AM
Quote from: vernonator on November 02, 2015, 07:15:23 AM
Quote from: SHOdded on October 30, 2015, 06:18:27 PM
No need for tune update, the PCM is quite capable of handling any airflow changes.  Downpipes benefit from a tune update however; the PCM stock doesn't really account for their flow characteristics, and the tune takes advantage of the earlier torque availability.

Has anyone dyno'd this CAI? Does it add anything or is it just for show like all the others?
Ahmad (MDesign) has done some dynos comparing it to others... It's in his thread... The MDesign does better, but not a large margin. It is sound and eye candy mostly on my SHO which is fine with me. I love mine and have had no problems in over a year. It doesn't slow the car as the other major CAIs do on the dyno and in real life racing. It is extremely hard to beat the OEM which I dyno'd vs no intake or filter at all with no changes in results (+/- 2 to 3 AWHP which is within the limit for error of the dyno).

•2013 Taurus SHO nonPP - All Ford factory options, 3BAR MAP, LMS v8 tune (mods for 3BAR, DPs, and T-stat), Paint & plastic correction, CQuart finest all exterior surfaces, limo black window tint,VLED Triton switchbacks, Daytime BrightLites switchback DRLs, full interior and exterior LED conversion, Lamin-X charcoal blackout tail lights and reflectors, PPE catted and coated downpipes, EBPP coated hotpipes with BoVs VTA, MDesign CAI
•2013 F250 CC Lariat 6.7EB Diesel -stock

SHOdded

#29
November 02, 2015, 09:34:53 AM
And it somehow keeps the tailpipes cleaner, how is still a mystery.
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!
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