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CAI Testing Results

Started by SHOnUup, April 23, 2015, 09:13:34 AM

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SHOnUup

Well, I was going to get all technical(or at least try) with this testing, but the GoPro video turned out to reveal no noise difference being noticed...Tablet died due to long day, and grabbing the wrong charger for other tablet, and they all performed so close there isn't much to debate IMO.




MDesign:




After receiving the MDesign from Paul (pjw...), I installed it for the week leading up to testing the intakes. Was a slight pain for me to install due to the little to non existent wire play I had with IAT1. I ended up pre mounting the sensor in CAI before hooking up the intake piping. I really didn't like how the sensor just sits in a rubber grommet that is quite loose IMO. Stock and Windstorm boxes both have very sturdy platform for this to mount to and it made me a little uncomfortable. But it held up and performed well.




Sound: Gave a little more of a whistle sound at low rpm throttle input, but quieted as it ramped up I thought. Could be other noise drowning it out, but not audible to me with windows up at higher speeds.




Milan Dragway 4-11-15 for DA reference




2 runs for the MDesign:




12:33 PM                                  1:55 PM

DA at 12:53...342                      DA at 1:53....567




RT       +.1097                         +.1415

60         1.7606                          1.8210

330       5.1250                          5.2096

1/8        7.9536                          8.0551

1/8        87.17 mph                    86.83 mph

1000     10.3850                        10.4985

1000     100.52 mph                   99.84 mph

1/4        12.4383                        12.5655

1/4       110.02 mph                   108.67 mph




Stock Box with K&N drop in




3:26 PM                                    4:20 PM

DA at 2:53...621                        DA at 3:53....637




RT      +.2489                            +.0701

60       1.8072                            1.7760

330     5.1895                            5.1379

1/8      8.0271                            7.9615

1/8      86.99 mph                      87.34 mph

1000   10.4635                           10.3879

1000   100.50 mph                     100.72

1/4      12.5196                          12.4440

1/4      109.74 mph                     109.47







Windstorm(modded)




5:23 PM                                     6:01 PM                                6:23 PM

DA at 4:53....648                        DA at 5:53....651                  DA....651

Bad launch(no boost)




RT       +.3605                            +.3254                                -.0805

60        2.0127                             1.7727                                 1.7821

330      5.3936                              N/A                                     5.1612

1/8       8.2328                             7.9577                                 7.9889

1/8       86.84 mph                        87.65 mph                           87.17 mph

1000     10.6721                           10.3781                               10.4186

1000     100.06 mph                      100.93 mph                         100.49

1/4       12.7261                            12.4211                               12.4678

1/4       109.74 mph                      110.28                                 110.03




Looking over these times and my slips from last year...the 60' is the main factor that either makes or breaks your run.
2011 Sterling Gray Metallic SHO non PP,
12.4211 @ 110.28 Livernois 3bar tune & CAI,
Added since...PPE catless Dpipes, Megan coilovers, Powergrid adjustable end links, and EBC slotted rotors and red stuff pads.
Tommy Designs grille with carbon fiber hydrographics, fender badges and fog bezels hydrodipped also, tinted windows, head & taillights, debadged trunk with all chrome plasti-dipped, black calipers, obdlink mx scantool running torque pro on 7" tablet.

SHOdded

Nice work, Rich, thanks for doing all this work!
2007 Ford Edge SEL, Powerstop F/R Brake Kit, TXT LED 6000K Lo & Hi Beams, W16W LED Reverse Bulbs, 3BSpec 2.5w Map Lights, 5W Cree rear dome lights, 5W Cree cargo light, DTBL LED Taillights

If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

SHOnUup

Quote from: SHOdded on April 23, 2015, 09:15:17 AM
Nice work, Rich, thanks for doing all this work!
Thx...my pleasure. Track day is always fun. What a great bunch of people out at Milan. You're allowed all over the place, which gets you right on the line...either at the wall or directly behind in the staging lanes. Always a good time.

Rich

2011 Sterling Gray Metallic SHO non PP,
12.4211 @ 110.28 Livernois 3bar tune & CAI,
Added since...PPE catless Dpipes, Megan coilovers, Powergrid adjustable end links, and EBC slotted rotors and red stuff pads.
Tommy Designs grille with carbon fiber hydrographics, fender badges and fog bezels hydrodipped also, tinted windows, head & taillights, debadged trunk with all chrome plasti-dipped, black calipers, obdlink mx scantool running torque pro on 7" tablet.

SHOnUup

I see tapatalk didn't like me spacing instead of using columns....note to self

Rich

2011 Sterling Gray Metallic SHO non PP,
12.4211 @ 110.28 Livernois 3bar tune & CAI,
Added since...PPE catless Dpipes, Megan coilovers, Powergrid adjustable end links, and EBC slotted rotors and red stuff pads.
Tommy Designs grille with carbon fiber hydrographics, fender badges and fog bezels hydrodipped also, tinted windows, head & taillights, debadged trunk with all chrome plasti-dipped, black calipers, obdlink mx scantool running torque pro on 7" tablet.

SHOnUup

Floating time in the center of windstorm times is the 3rd run if using Tapatalk...easy to see on desktop

Rich

2011 Sterling Gray Metallic SHO non PP,
12.4211 @ 110.28 Livernois 3bar tune & CAI,
Added since...PPE catless Dpipes, Megan coilovers, Powergrid adjustable end links, and EBC slotted rotors and red stuff pads.
Tommy Designs grille with carbon fiber hydrographics, fender badges and fog bezels hydrodipped also, tinted windows, head & taillights, debadged trunk with all chrome plasti-dipped, black calipers, obdlink mx scantool running torque pro on 7" tablet.

14SHOCAR

#5
If you subtract the RT, from each of the results, you should get the absolute time correct? With such a bad RT on the last run , I'm curious what the real numbers are for each of the runs.
18 Volvo S90 Inscription - 2.0T Twin Charged - Polestar Tuned.
17 Lincoln MKZ 3.0T GTDI -To Tune, or Not To Tune -- THAT is the question.
15 Road Glide Special - CFR Exhaust, Powder Coated everything, DirtyAir Air ride
14 Taurus SHO (Sold)
LMS 93 V8 3Bar Tune, K&N Intake, LMS 160 t-stat, LMS pre-gapped plugs, Corsa Exhaust

SHOnUup

Quote from: 14SHOCAR on April 23, 2015, 10:17:02 AM
If you subtract the RT, from each of the results, you should get the absolute time correct? With such a bad RT on the second result, I'm curious what the real numbers are for each of the runs.
RT has nothing to do with the ET. Your time doesn't start until you break the line, you could sit there for 20 seconds and still not affect the time.

Rich

2011 Sterling Gray Metallic SHO non PP,
12.4211 @ 110.28 Livernois 3bar tune & CAI,
Added since...PPE catless Dpipes, Megan coilovers, Powergrid adjustable end links, and EBC slotted rotors and red stuff pads.
Tommy Designs grille with carbon fiber hydrographics, fender badges and fog bezels hydrodipped also, tinted windows, head & taillights, debadged trunk with all chrome plasti-dipped, black calipers, obdlink mx scantool running torque pro on 7" tablet.

14SHOCAR

Quote from: SHOnUup on April 23, 2015, 10:18:38 AMRT has nothing to do with the ET. Your time doesn't start until you break the line, you could sit there for 20 seconds and still not affect the time.

Rich

10-4 -- makes sense.
18 Volvo S90 Inscription - 2.0T Twin Charged - Polestar Tuned.
17 Lincoln MKZ 3.0T GTDI -To Tune, or Not To Tune -- THAT is the question.
15 Road Glide Special - CFR Exhaust, Powder Coated everything, DirtyAir Air ride
14 Taurus SHO (Sold)
LMS 93 V8 3Bar Tune, K&N Intake, LMS 160 t-stat, LMS pre-gapped plugs, Corsa Exhaust

SHOnUup

Those couple RT'S are driving me crazy...one was the car falling on its face with too much brake boost...but the other .3 was my slowness

Rich

2011 Sterling Gray Metallic SHO non PP,
12.4211 @ 110.28 Livernois 3bar tune & CAI,
Added since...PPE catless Dpipes, Megan coilovers, Powergrid adjustable end links, and EBC slotted rotors and red stuff pads.
Tommy Designs grille with carbon fiber hydrographics, fender badges and fog bezels hydrodipped also, tinted windows, head & taillights, debadged trunk with all chrome plasti-dipped, black calipers, obdlink mx scantool running torque pro on 7" tablet.

SHO-Time

Other then sound difference and maybe a little under-the-hood eyecandy, it appears an aftermarket intake on this car is pretty much pointless. If there is a slight performance difference it appears to be negligible. 
2015 Chevy SS Perfect Blue / LMT Tuned (390 RWHP / 388 RWTQ)
2013 White Platinum Tri-Coat SHO (Non-PP) *SOLD*

14SHOCAR

Quote from: SHO-Time on April 23, 2015, 11:13:15 AM
Other then sound difference and maybe a little under-the-hood eyecandy, it appears an aftermarket intake on this car is pretty much pointless. If there is a slight performance difference it appears to be negligible.

I second that thought. From my dyno results I got +2 AWHP and -4 AWTQ. I do have a whooshing sound, but that too, gets old after a while.

I do want to mention that I would like to see if we can get plastic pipe replacements for the tubing that leads up to the turbo and the charge pipe. I wonder if it is a limitation of the other intake piping, not the intakes themselves......
18 Volvo S90 Inscription - 2.0T Twin Charged - Polestar Tuned.
17 Lincoln MKZ 3.0T GTDI -To Tune, or Not To Tune -- THAT is the question.
15 Road Glide Special - CFR Exhaust, Powder Coated everything, DirtyAir Air ride
14 Taurus SHO (Sold)
LMS 93 V8 3Bar Tune, K&N Intake, LMS 160 t-stat, LMS pre-gapped plugs, Corsa Exhaust

SHOnUup

Quote from: SHO-Time on April 23, 2015, 11:13:15 AM
Other then sound difference and maybe a little under-the-hood eyecandy, it appears an aftermarket intake on this car is pretty much pointless. If there is a slight performance difference it appears to be negligible.
Agreed.

Fortunately nailed a good 60' with each intake and produced almost identical results.

I wonder how they all perform at a higher mod level though?



Rich

2011 Sterling Gray Metallic SHO non PP,
12.4211 @ 110.28 Livernois 3bar tune & CAI,
Added since...PPE catless Dpipes, Megan coilovers, Powergrid adjustable end links, and EBC slotted rotors and red stuff pads.
Tommy Designs grille with carbon fiber hydrographics, fender badges and fog bezels hydrodipped also, tinted windows, head & taillights, debadged trunk with all chrome plasti-dipped, black calipers, obdlink mx scantool running torque pro on 7" tablet.

ecoboostsho

Great work on this Rich!  I love seeing real world data!
2013 White SHO w/PP, Gearhead Tuned, 3 Bar, 160T, Plugs...Mess with the Bull and you'll get the Horn. :)
Previous 2011 Tuxedo Black SHO w/PP - 12.89 1/4 Mile

SHOnUup

Quote from: ecoboostsho on April 24, 2015, 08:45:28 AM
Great work on this Rich!  I love seeing real world data!
Thank you.

Real world data is my favorite. Actual results with heat soak on cement vs hood open on rollers.

Congrats to Ford on a quality intake...boo to them on the twisted accordion mess that follows.

Rich

2011 Sterling Gray Metallic SHO non PP,
12.4211 @ 110.28 Livernois 3bar tune & CAI,
Added since...PPE catless Dpipes, Megan coilovers, Powergrid adjustable end links, and EBC slotted rotors and red stuff pads.
Tommy Designs grille with carbon fiber hydrographics, fender badges and fog bezels hydrodipped also, tinted windows, head & taillights, debadged trunk with all chrome plasti-dipped, black calipers, obdlink mx scantool running torque pro on 7" tablet.

ZSHO

That is some cool hardcore data Rich,analysis are pretty even,but at the end the clear winner was you buddy with that 12.42 ET.  Z


2013 Performance Package SHO| Livernois Custom Methanol Tune|3-Bar Map|Reische-170-Stat|Full Race Tial-10psi BOV in Black|PPE-Gloss Black Hot Pipes|EPP Dual Intake in Gloss Black|PPE Catted DP|Corsa Sport Cat Back Exhaust|H&R Sport-Springs|CFM Performance Billet Valve Cover Breather In Gloss Black|Llumar 20%Ceramic window Tint|MSD Ignition Coils in Black|Extreme Roof Spoiler|Redline Fluids all around|Gearhead Intercooler|First-SHO With Direct Port Alky-VP-M1-100%-Methanol Injection|LMS-Custom-Dyno-Tuned @ 415whp-465wtq| Best Trap Speed of 115.54 mph|