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Re: Random thoughts for the day
« Reply #3630 on: April 15, 2019, 04:07:32 pm »
Stock AWHP ranges anywhere from 277 to 285.

I forgot what the stock TQ #'s though 

Have to go sift through old paperwork.

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Re: Random thoughts for the day
« Reply #3631 on: April 15, 2019, 04:18:40 pm »
Stock AWHP ranges anywhere from 277 to 285.

I forgot what the stock TQ #'s though 

Have to go sift through old paperwork.

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Re: Random thoughts for the day
« Reply #3632 on: April 15, 2019, 04:39:27 pm »
Stock AWHP ranges anywhere from 277 to 285.

I forgot what the stock TQ #'s though 

Have to go sift through old paperwork.

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Re: Random thoughts for the day
« Reply #3633 on: April 19, 2019, 06:38:22 pm »
I have been trying to troubleshoot this A/C ISSUE for the past few days but to no avail! The A/C started to work after having the System Evacuated and Recharged but unfortunately lasted for a couple of days.
Installed new Relays and Fuses inside the (BJB) as per being OCD .

I think with the A/C Fully Charged the inside Vent should be between 35-45 degrees,but during sustained Drive it should be closer to 36-37 degrees!

I know ultimately its a sliding Scale relative to Humidity and on average the Evaporator runs close to 32,out the Center Vent and can go Up to 45 deg IIRC correctly!

I did find 1 middle Vent and 1 side vent on Dash closed Today to my surprise and while Fully opening them up,the A/C seems to be functioning properly after a quick Drive on the Highway with Temps in the middle 70's. Fingers crossed and will keep you updated on any ongoing progress. Z
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Re: Random thoughts for the day
« Reply #3634 on: April 20, 2019, 01:37:19 am »
Good luck!  Closed vents should not affect performance unless charge is low.  Check with black light for leaks.
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If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

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Re: Random thoughts for the day
« Reply #3635 on: April 20, 2019, 07:08:07 am »
« Last Edit: April 20, 2019, 07:10:37 am by ZSHO »


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Re: Random thoughts for the day
« Reply #3636 on: April 20, 2019, 10:13:12 am »
I read in a topic on the SHOForum that when upgrading HPFP model year 2010-12 also must upgrade injectors opposed to 2013+ don't need to upgrade injectors.  True?  I'm considering HPFP and ran into this topic.  In which case my goal would be derailed, and first step would be injectors?
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Re: Random thoughts for the day
« Reply #3637 on: April 20, 2019, 10:33:25 am »
Injectors are a final step.  Having an upgraded HPFP is more important.  Not sure who aside from bpd has the DW upgrades planned/installed.  Bpd always plans headroom into his projects, so upgraded injectors are a natural result.  Fuel pumps though are the bigger piece of the puzzle, especially with higher E blends, as the energy density drops significantly, and only volume can compensate.
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If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

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Re: Random thoughts for the day
« Reply #3638 on: April 20, 2019, 10:36:07 am »
Ok cool!  It read on the other forum or atleast I interpreted it as injectors were a requirement per 2010-12.  Thank you for the clarification Sir!
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Re: Random thoughts for the day
« Reply #3639 on: April 20, 2019, 10:56:19 am »
IIRC, the HPFP maxes out around 2500 psi for gen 4, 3000 for gen 5.  Injectors have never really been an issue re flow rates.  But if you are pushing the envelope, can't hurt to upgrade. 

FoMoCoSHO has pushed hard with Eblends for some time now, both gen 4 and 5, and has yet to upgrade the fuel system at all.  More details, he will have to provide.

How good your tuner is ... That seems to be the limiting factor really.
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If tuned:  Take note of the strategy code as you return to stock (including 3 bar MAP to 2 bar MAP) -> take car in & get it serviced -> check strategy code when you get car back -> have tuner update your tune if the strategy code has changed -> reload tune -> ENJOY!

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Re: Random thoughts for the day
« Reply #3640 on: April 20, 2019, 03:14:22 pm »
IIRC, the HPFP maxes out around 2500 psi for gen 4, 3000 for gen 5.  Injectors have never really been an issue re flow rates.  But if you are pushing the envelope, can't hurt to upgrade. 

FoMoCoSHO has pushed hard with Eblends for some time now, both gen 4 and 5, and has yet to upgrade the fuel system at all.  More details, he will have to provide.

How good your tuner is ... That seems to be the limiting factor really.

I agree with this. Your tuner / AJP will max out what you have and keep the OEM Fuel pump pressure within its limits.

I have awesome 93, E30, and E85 tunes from him. I am sure the car can do more with more rail pressure but those new fuel pumps are out of my price range atm.

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Re: Random thoughts for the day
« Reply #3641 on: April 26, 2019, 07:19:38 am »
Here's a great article I came across and not sure if this was covered!
Fount of Info indeed! Z

https://www.motor.com/magazine-summary/dissecting-fords-ecoboost-engine/
« Last Edit: April 26, 2019, 07:26:59 am by ZSHO »


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Re: Random thoughts for the day
« Reply #3642 on: April 26, 2019, 03:52:32 pm »
New video from Brian (FTM) on Ford All Wheel Drive Vehicles: Critical PTU Fluid Exchange Procedure recommended every 30K Miles.
It still makes me laugh that Ford recommends to change it @ 100K mile intervals!!! Z


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Re: Random thoughts for the day
« Reply #3644 on: April 27, 2019, 08:04:29 pm »
This has been looming for quite a while.

Just now getting media attention.

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